Regula 25 S Adjustment

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  1. Les Sanders

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    I am working on a musical,water wheel and dancers Cuckoo Clock. The complaint was the weight on the music box when wound fell right back to the floor. I enlisted another Clock Repair Person to fix the problem with the click. He did that and went ahead and cleaned and oiled the movement. Pick it up and he said I don't know why but it won't stop cuckooing. So It is my customers clock and I have not worked on cuckoos much. I assume I need to remove the movement and see if I can figure out what I am dealing with before I buy a book on these clocks. What do I need to look for when I have movement out on my fixture? And anyone know which book I should buy?

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  2. Chris D

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    I'd ask him if he completely disassembled it and if he took off the gathering pallet. It may not be in the right position. You could try to pop off the dial and pull the chain and watch the action.
     
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    Yes. Take off the hands and carefully pry off the dial, which will be held on by tiny nails that may or may not have heads. You'll then be able to see the rack, the gathering pallet, and the rack hook.. The operation isn't much different from any other rack-strike clock, except:

    If the rack hook doesn't come down after the cuckooing is supposed to have completed then you'll have to figure out why, which is tough because on a music cuckoo there's lots of stuff attached to that rack hook. It triggers the music box, so have a look at that linkage, and it controls the bird. As for said bird, many cuckoo clocks have a hatchway on one side (or both) of the case that gives you access to the bird linkage and other linkages.

    They take a bit of getting used to, but Regula cuckoo movements are actually pretty good quality despite their rustic appearance. There are several different cuckooing schemes, so you'll want to study your movements until you become familiar with their operation. After a lot of trepidation I discovered that they're not too difficult to understand.

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    and don't forget to unlatch that little door for the cuckoo bird.
     
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    Depending on how much your guy charged you for the repair, I think he should fix this problem for you. If he really cleaned the movement, he took it apart and didn't test it well when he put it back together.
     
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    Well He did not charge me and said he could not fix the clock. The problem was the click on the music box was not catching so the weight would just go right to the floor. I am not even sure why he messed with movement. That being said I have to fix it for my customer. I have a video of what the clock is doing.
     
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    I have made some progress the cuckoo train not stops however the bird are swings out locks and stays there?

     
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    Now that you got it to stop... can you post another video of the front please.
     
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    Will do. The only problem is the bird arm not retracting.
     
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    Ok, is the pin on the rack hook sitting in the gathering pallet properly? If it's hitting the left side of the pallet it may not be allowing the tab at the top of the rack hook to drop low enough to hit the bird lock arm.
     
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    There is a wire that extends from the wood flap of one of the cuckoo bellows. Its purpose is to make the bird bob his head as he announces the hour. Make sure that the bird's tail isn't dragging on this wire when he tries to go back in.

    Also check to see if the door is free to swing, that the link between bird and door isn't jamming, and that the bird's head isn't hitting the top of the doorway. If the door seems well-intentioned but unreliable, check the alignment of its wretched little hinges and perhaps apply the _tiniest_ bit of oil to these.

    If the bird pops in and out of the door as he cuckoos there's a problem with the hook that keeps the cuckoo out there.

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    Now working with the exception of bird arm will not retract, I even put pressure on it to help but it is locked solid!

     
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    Still looks like the pin on the rack hook isn't falling down into the pallet like it should. What did you do to get it to work?
     
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    You haven't told us what the fix was.
     
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    I did the vertical part of the bird shaft was not oiled, I put a couple of drops oil on the mounts and away she went!
     
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    So is it now working correctly and back in the case, Les?
     
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    Yes I just finished it this morning. I still have to replace the click on the music box ratchet wheel. Then it will be 100% Thanks to everyone for the input!
     
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    I thought your other repairman had fixed the click problem.
     
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    So did I, it worked for a bit and then failed, I took it apart and tip of the click was 90 % worn, I found a source and ordered a new one.
     
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