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Railway Timekeeper Robust
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Interesting little watch 
This type of watch is the Swiss equivalent of the Dollar watches, actually even cheaper.
The dial is in metal; the writings and hours are painted. The writings Railway Keeper, Robust, and specially examined are only marketing.
The movement is a so-called calibre Roskopf with no rubies; plates, cocks and bridges are made of stamped metal sheet. The maker of the movement should be the company A. Schild. The escapement is of the pin lever type.
Interesting is the regulator: the form is a sort of shock protection, or at least sold as such; probably the reason for the definition Robust; other writings were shock proof, shock resistant and similar.
Ciao
This type of watch is the Swiss equivalent of the Dollar watches, actually even cheaper.
The dial is in metal; the writings and hours are painted. The writings Railway Keeper, Robust, and specially examined are only marketing.
The movement is a so-called calibre Roskopf with no rubies; plates, cocks and bridges are made of stamped metal sheet. The maker of the movement should be the company A. Schild. The escapement is of the pin lever type.
Interesting is the regulator: the form is a sort of shock protection, or at least sold as such
; probably the reason for the definition Robust; other writings were shock proof, shock resistant and similar.Ciao
Thanks my man!Interesting little watch
This type of watch is the Swiss equivalent of the Dollar watches, actually even cheaper.
The dial is in metal; the writings and hours are painted. The writings Railway Keeper, Robust, and specially examined are only marketing.
The movement is a so-called calibre Roskopf with no rubies; plates, cocks and bridges are made of stamped metal sheet. The maker of the movement should be the company A. Schild. The escapement is of the pin lever type.
Interesting is the regulator: the form is a sort of shock protection, or at least sold as such
Ciao
Same type of watch as the first one, slightly better quality:
- Roskopf type caliber, plates, cocks and bridges are made of stamped metal sheet; one ruby for the balance wheel
- Railway regulator is marketing, swiss made is true, as well as lever since it is a pin-lever escapement; in reality the writing was there to misguide the buyer, as it is normally used for indicating straight swiss levers, i.e. a higher quality of watch
- the dial appears to be email
Unfortunately I do not manage to read what is written on the movement under the serial number
Ciao
- Roskopf type caliber, plates, cocks and bridges are made of stamped metal sheet; one ruby for the balance wheel
- Railway regulator is marketing, swiss made is true, as well as lever since it is a pin-lever escapement
; in reality the writing was there to misguide the buyer, as it is normally used for indicating straight swiss levers, i.e. a higher quality of watch- the dial appears to be email
Unfortunately I do not manage to read what is written on the movement under the serial number
Ciao
It's great to see examples of these watches. Thank you for sharing them.
As VinSer said, these were the early "dollar" watches - watches made to be affordable. There is a book on Roskopf and his watches that has a useful section with pictures and descriptions of subsequent Roskopf-style watches made by various companies. The book is called The Proletarian Watch by Albin Schaeder. I believe it is available in English as well as other languages. I don't have access to my copy right now, so it's great to see that VinSer is able to identify and provide some information.
As VinSer said, these were the early "dollar" watches - watches made to be affordable. There is a book on Roskopf and his watches that has a useful section with pictures and descriptions of subsequent Roskopf-style watches made by various companies. The book is called The Proletarian Watch by Albin Schaeder. I believe it is available in English as well as other languages. I don't have access to my copy right now, so it's great to see that VinSer is able to identify and provide some information.
As PatH said the reference book for Roskopf watches is the The Proletarian Watch from Albin Schaeder (still available from the author).
However (because there is always an however ) the book covers mainly the "first" generation of Roskopf type watches: the maker of the movement/ebauche was mostly recognisable from the ratchet-wheel cover.
The ones shown here are the "cheaper" version, with parts made of stamped metal. These watches were made mainly in Switzerland and Germany/Austria. They can normally be recognised from the bridge for the pin-lever (and the ratchet-wheel cover when present). The book "La montre de poche suisse à travers les vallées hoelogères" from Réal Bossé has two pages showing several examples of this second type.
For the German/Austrian pin-lever watches the reference book is "Stiftanker-Taschenuhren aus Deutschland" from Eduard C. Saluz
Ciao
However (because there is always an however
) the book covers mainly the "first" generation of Roskopf type watches: the maker of the movement/ebauche was mostly recognisable from the ratchet-wheel cover.The ones shown here are the "cheaper" version, with parts made of stamped metal. These watches were made mainly in Switzerland and Germany/Austria. They can normally be recognised from the bridge for the pin-lever (and the ratchet-wheel cover when present). The book "La montre de poche suisse à travers les vallées hoelogères" from Réal Bossé has two pages showing several examples of this second type.
For the German/Austrian pin-lever watches the reference book is "Stiftanker-Taschenuhren aus Deutschland" from Eduard C. Saluz
Ciao
ig33ku. The two watches above are of interest, though only when they have a movement inside. The first one is a Swiss watch cased in 18K gold and is probably what it´s worth on the market. The one signed WALTHAM is in a Rolled Gold case, not worth much, till you know what's inside, for instance, a RIVERSIDE, then it's big bucks. Please send photographs of the movements.
Best wishes,
Allan.
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No idea how to open this sucker it has no hinge on the back cover and I don't want to force it open.
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