Questions: American Watch Co. Pocket Watch

[Acreativei]

I have an old pocket watch from Am. Watch Co - Waltham, and was helping that you could help identify/verify it for me. Serial # inside reads 3437045. From what I understand, this model (1872-6) started with Serial # 3437001.
Would that mean that this is the 45th watch that they produced for this model #?
The case is interesting in that it has a belted crest on the dial side (with what appears to be 2 initials engraved), and the backside has a flower, possibly a rose, engraved.
I can't seem to located anything like this.
The dial is white, with roman numerals, but doesn't have the numbers on the outer ring of the dial like some I've seen. It has a subdial minute hand. The logo reads Am Watch Co in a curved arch, in a script text, with Waltham in a straight Roman text under it.
inside each cover is stamped 27112.
I've attached photos.
Any assistance you can provide as to the authenticity and value would be greatly appreciated.

 

[musicguy]

Welcome to the NAWCC Forum!



Rob

 

[Acreativei]

Welcome to the NAWCC Forum!



Rob

Thank you very much!

 

[musicguy]

Would that mean that this is the 45th watch that they produced for this model #?

For the Waltham Grade D (Model 1873-6) yours is the
# 45 but overall, for the other different 1873-6 grades
I do not think so. I'm sure others will reply.



Rob

 

[topspin]

The detail for your movement is here - Waltham Pocket Watch: Serial Number 3437045 (Grade D)

You can get a complete list of 1873-6 runs if you search for it here - NAWCC-Info

The best guide to value is to check the Sold Listings of whichever outlet you were considering selling it on, for similar watches. In the meantime let's just say "probably a lot less than you were imagining, unless you can find something that says the case is solid gold".

Does it wind, set & run correctly? Has it been recently serviced?

 

[Acreativei]

The detail for your movement is here - Waltham Pocket Watch: Serial Number 3437045 (Grade D)

You can get a complete list of 1873-6 runs if you search for it here - NAWCC-Info

The best guide to value is to check the Sold Listings of whichever outlet you were considering selling it on, for similar watches. In the meantime let's just say "probably a lot less than you were imagining, unless you can find something that says the case is solid gold".

Does it wind, set & run correctly? Has it been recently serviced?

I'll check that out. I can't find any markings on it that say Solid Gold. Wasn't expecting much. Wife and I just think that it's cool that it's so old, and confused on how/why her father had it. Thanks!

 

[Kent]

Hi Acreativei:

Please add my welcome to Rob's.

You have a nice, if modest, heirloom.

If you tell us the markings stamped inside the back of the Watch Case (or post a picture of them), we may be able to tell you something about it. You can ignore any "hand-scratched" characters, they're probably Watch Repairers' Marks.

 

[Acreativei]

Hi Acreativei:

Please add my welcome to Rob's.

You have a nice, if modest, heirloom.

If you tell us the markings stamped inside the back of the Watch Case (or post a picture of them), we may be able to tell you something about it. You can ignore any "hand-scratched" characters, they're probably Watch Repairers' Marks.

Thanks Kent!
Inside the back cover is the AW CO stamp, then under that is 14k, then the number 27112

 

[Acreativei]

The detail for your movement is here - Waltham Pocket Watch: Serial Number 3437045 (Grade D)

You can get a complete list of 1873-6 runs if you search for it here - NAWCC-Info

The best guide to value is to check the Sold Listings of whichever outlet you were considering selling it on, for similar watches. In the meantime let's just say "probably a lot less than you were imagining, unless you can find something that says the case is solid gold".

Does it wind, set & run correctly? Has it been recently serviced?

It winds and runs just fine. I can't, however, figure out how to set the clock. Any assistance?

 

[topspin]

The PW database says it's a Lever set.
So...
Open the bezel (that's the front cover with the glass) - this could be either hinged or pop-off.
Underneath it, somewhere near the edge of the dial (usually somewhere on the right) you should find a small metal lever. Gently pull it out (perhaps with your thumbnail.) Now try turning the crown.
Off the top of my head I can't remember which way you need to turn it, although for most Waltham models you turn it anticlockwise to make the hands move forwards (which is what you want to see.)

 

[Acreativei]

The PW database says it's a Lever set.
So...
Open the bezel (that's the front cover with the glass) - this could be either hinged or pop-off.
Underneath it, somewhere near the edge of the dial (usually somewhere on the right) you should find a small metal lever. Gently pull it out (perhaps with your thumbnail.) Now try turning the crown.
Off the top of my head I can't remember which way you need to turn it, although for most Waltham models you turn it anticlockwise to make the hands move forwards (which is what you want to see.)

PERFECT! That was it! Thank you. It's set, wound, and ticking away. Thank you.

 

[Kent]

Thanks Kent!
Inside the back cover is the AW CO stamp, then under that is 14k, then the number 27112

What does the "AW CO stamp" look like?

Perhaps you could oust a picture?

 

[Acreativei]

What does the "AW CO stamp" look like?

Perhaps you could oust a picture?

Picture attached. Does this tell you any more info on it?

 

[MrRoundel]

The "14K" marking looks a bit odd, but I've never seen that style of "AWCo" mark on anything other than pure, karat gold. Nice watch!

 

[Acreativei]

The "14K" marking looks a bit odd, but I've never seen that style of "AWCo" mark on anything other than pure, karat gold. Nice watch!

Great. Thx! Any ideas on a ballpark value?

 

[topspin]

Weigh the case, or estimate its weight. Now take 14/24 of that. Multiply by whatever the internet says the buy-price of gold is today. Then add a few quid for the value of a loose, running movement.