Private Label photos ... All 50 states

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  1. Fred Hansen

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    I thought it would be nice to see a thread here with photos of private-label watches trying to show an example marked to somewhere in each of the 50 United States and also one marked to Washington DC.

    I'm a fan of private-label marked watches since I think these custom markings add a layer of history to the watch by connecting it with a specific place and time. They also can be very interesting to research and discover the history of the individual or firm that the watch was custom marked for.

    All are welcome to add to this thread and I'd like to see pics of any watch with an American located private-label on the dial and/or on the movement. It would be great to eventually see this thread contain photos of watches marked to all fifty American states and the US capital. Duplicates on states are fine too ... the more the merrier ... and any extra history on the watch or marking anyone wants to post is terrific.

    I'll post photos of one today to start things off, and I'd really enjoy seeing our board users post some of their watches and make this a fantastic thread for everyone!

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  2. Fred Hansen

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    Here's one marked to a firm in my home state of Illinois, an 18 size private-label that was made by the Illinois Watch Company in about 1895 from a hunting case model Bunn Special grade that was marked on the dial and movement for "Sommer & Pierik" of Springfield, Illinois ...
     

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  3. Fred Hansen

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    So 49 states and 1 National capital left, who's got one to show ... :)

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    Cleveland Ohio. Webb C. Ball on one side, signed Moorhouse on the other. Nsz SER. VIII Howard.
     

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    Fred beautiful watch if you ever need a dial for one of the private labels like you posted or know of someone else that does i would be glad to send it to them..The one i have i belive is for a keywind Illinois but the same name as the one you posted.:)
     
  6. terry hall

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    Let's do one from South Carolina... maybe a second one from the same state later (after competing all 50) that's "Better" :)
     

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  7. John Cote

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    How about a Wisconsin? J. Segerstrom "Watchmaker" Rhinelander, WI.

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    More Later.
     
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    Illinois Watch . . Charelmont, Massachusetts . . Geo. E. Bemis
     

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    Here is a Swiss movement marked for Jacob W. Grubb, Wheeling, WV.

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    #10 Bryan Eyring, Dec 18, 2008
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    PA

    Two PA private labels, both for Pittsburgh.
    Scarce nickel USWC private label for a Pittsburgh, PA establishment and a gilt USWC private label for a different Pittsburgh, PA establishment.

    Regards,
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  12. Fred Hansen

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    Some great watches here and thanks everyone for the posts!

    I think this can be a very interesting thread not only for showing the different areas the private-labels were sent but also the very wide range of makers, grades, and time periods that these private-label watches can cover.

    We're at 7 states shown now, I'll try to a few more here over the weekend and am looking forward to anything else that our board's members would like to show.

    :)

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  13. Fred Hansen

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    The town of Telluride is in the southwestern part of Colorado, surrounded by the San Juan mountain range and sitting at an elevation of about 8700 feet. Following the earlier discoveries of gold in this area, the town was founded in 1878 under the name "Columbia" but in 1887 the name was changed to Telluride. Mining remained Telluride's dominant industry for many years after, but in more modern times Telluride has become famous for its Telluride Ski Resort. The current population of Telluride is a little over 2200 at last census.

    J.C. Anderson & Co. of Telluride ordered private-labels from several makers around the turn of the century and this firm was also a railroad watch inspector for the Denver and Rio Grande Railway which had a narrow gauge route through Southwestern Colorado. Here is a photo of an 18 size 21 jewel hunting case grade 941 Hamilton with 2-tone damaskeen that is listed in the Hamilton factory records as an October 16, 1900 sale to Anderson ...
     

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    Here is one of mine. A WF Laraway Glenwood Iowa two-tone 975 Hamilton. Sorry for the blurry picture. Thanks for posting everyone...I really am enjoying the pictures!
     

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    A little faded, but pretty nice, New York
     

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    Neat John.. a "first" for me with regards to signature.... BS "for".... congrats!
     
  17. John Cote

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    OK, how about Indiana. I will take pictures of an American watch from this company later this weekend, but how's about a Patek for now?

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    Since this is the American Pocket Watch Message Board, I hesitate to post pictures of Swiss private label watches.

    Meanwhile, here's an American beauty from Tennessee.
     
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    The Best -- John S Allen and Co. Minneapolis
     

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    Made Expressly For
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    Waltham Watch Co.
     

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    One more Indiana. This is a watch from the same company as the Patek but after Mr. Bingham sold out to Mr. Walk. It is a 12 size Illinois gr 404...triple signed.

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    while we are on Indiana--Newcastle
     

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    Nice watch Jon. I have an Elgin with this same private label but I have not seen the Illinois.
     
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    Let me cover NH 3 times over:

    >> Illinois Bunn Model 4 - Epping NH
    >> Hamilton 932 - Manchester, NH
    >> Waltham R. E. Rollins - Gorham, NH

    Cheers,
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    Onward to the Garden State of NJ:

    >> Rockford 905 - Patterson, NJ

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  29. Fred Hansen

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    Great posts everyone and terrific watches being shown here!

    Looks like we have 17 states shown now and also a terrific example of Washington D.C.

    So here is what we've shown here ... Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Washington D.C.

    And here is what we haven't seen here yet ... Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming

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  30. John Pavlik

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    Hope you do not mind another NH
     

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  31. John Cote

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    Well....how about a Virginia!

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  32. bernie levine

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  33. terry hall

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    Let me tag on another VA watch... though it is a junker compared to John's...

    This is a movement marking only... H D Walters, Christiansburg VA... dial is SS enamel RN with A W C sig

    Believe an 1877 model Waltham.
     

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    Been working on NC representation....

    have a DIAL ONLY marking on Southbend grade 313? 18s for North Wilkesboro NC... (this is a 'small' town in the foothills of NC... "moonshine capital of the world".. :eek:)

    Another Dial Only marking for a Durham NC firm on a 15j plain ole getty illinois

    And a marked 17j 16s pendant set Rockford movement and dial for a lil town on the NC coast... Washington, NC... now the home of Reggie Fountain Powerboats... I have some 'ole timers' from around here that do remember this firm Smithers....

    "still" actively looking for other examples
     

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    Fred,

    Here are two more. I will try an post pictures at a later date.

    18 size ON6L 17 J Bunn grade Illinois #1248419 Movment marked ACTONS SPECIAL, R.C. ACTON & SON Alexandria, Virginia.

    18 SIZE ON6L 17 j Bunn grade Illinois dial marked N&W Special. Mvmt marked F.S. Green Roanoak, Virginia.#1248375.

    I believe you have photos of N&W Special dial and movement from my
    earlier post.
     
  36. Joe Kendall

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    Here's one from Kansas. Just a humble Hamilton 928 but I like it since it is from the city of my birth. I have also included an image of a street scene of Topeka from an old postcard. You can just make out the sign for Hayden Jeweler's. The building is still standing. It now houses a Christian Science Reading Room.

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    Here is another from Virginia.

    H. Silverthorn, Lynchburg. VA.
     

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    This one dial only signed:

    Wright Kay & Co.
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    Not North Carolina, California...
     

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    Here's a Columbus watch from Vermont, dial only:

    Wyman & Son
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  43. Fred Hansen

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    Awesome response so far and thanks everyone for the photos!

    :):):Party:

    We're halfway through the states now, with just these 25 left unshown ...

    Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming

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  44. Steven Mercer

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    Fred

    I know you can take care of Hawaii and Alaska. :) So lets see those photo's. :D

    Here are a couple of dials I have:

    A. Marquis & Bro. Philadelphia

    J.V. Padula 218 222 Bruce St. Newark N.J.

    Sam Mayer, Denver Colo.
     

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    No problem Steve but I was hoping someone would beat me to it and post one of those two states first ... :)

    I'll have to get some good pics taken but will try to have one posted up here for tomorrow.

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  46. Tom Huber

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    Here is one from Ohio. It's an early Swiss parts Columbus marked for John Brenner, Youngstown, OH.

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    I have two more dials to add, covering Kentucky and Washington state. These are both on 16s Illinois Getty movements.

    Rich G Tafel
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    - obtained separately and used in the restoration of a 17j grade 185 hunter

    Fechtner V Haller
    Chehalis, WASH
    - original (as far as I know) to a 17j grade 186 open face

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    Here is a dial only from South Dakota (18-size Illinois 1st model - if anyone has the movement and needs the dial, let me know), and an Illinois grade 61 from Maine.
     
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    I don't think another California dial will hurt (except for the condition ... ouch :( ) This is for an 18-size Rockford.
     

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    #50 Jerry Treiman, Dec 22, 2008
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    Another from Washington ... a Hampden from Blaine, Washington. The dial also has the retailer's name, but not the location.
     

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