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  1. Greg Frauenhoff

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    It's always fun to get a scarce, rare or interesting original watch in a nice case. These three are home from the bank for a couple of days. Rockford grade no. 60, Aurora Minneapolis Watch Co., and Aurora Made Expressly for the Guild. The cases are all gold-filled.

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  2. MartyR

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    This is a 1907 Waltham Grade 161 size 0. Beautiful art nouveau!

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    #3 yellow_sub, Mar 25, 2019
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    Waltham 1890 Grade L size 6. Probably about 95% of my watches are 18s or 16s but I could pass up this beauty. Runs great too, just 40-50 sec per day in the PU and PL positions

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    Unlike Greg's watches mine is not scarce but it sure is interesting. The rarity is that it exhibits so little wear to its highly decorated case. It may only be a seven jewel movement but its hands, dial, case and large eagle engraved on the movement make it a keeper for me. Plus, I purchased it from a member of the original owner's family.

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  5. Keith R...

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    How about some silver from 1864, 11 Jewel Ellery.

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    #6 Leigh Callaway, Mar 26, 2019
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    Also not particularly rare, but well preserved. From a retired watchmakers safe. Hamilton 992 private label from 1910.
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  7. rdixiemiller

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    Just a GM Wheeler grade Elgin, but the case is in really nice shape. Deep engraving, very little wear for somewhere in the mid 1800's.
    When I get home from this trip, I'll post some pics of a really nice gold filled case.

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    This Waltham Colonial-A is one of the prettiest men's watches* that I own. This full scenic engraving style is not common on American watches.
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    * there are so many pretty women's watches that that would be no challenge.
     
  10. John Pavlik

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    Longines ...

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  11. Jerry Treiman

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    That is a lovely case, John. Was that watch cased by A.Wittnauer in the U.S. or is it a European case?
     
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    Jerry, I have attached the case marks, and yes appears to be a A. Whittnauer case .... the rear cover foliage is actually raised ...Movement needs a clean for sure ...

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    I'm a fan of Salt water themes. I like these old gold filled cases with wild
    life in their natural habitat. Here's a Heron in a Brackish salt water marsh,
    spearing for fish.

    The lighting is a mix of tent and or direct, so I'll show both shots.

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    :D If you were the seller I purchased it from, thank you very much. The watch is absolutely beautiful. I tried taking pics myself when I got it but at the moment I only have my phone so I just couldn't get any thing as nice as the ones from the auction.
    Here's a couple more cases of mine that I really like. The first one is a Civil War themed Waltham Appleton, Tracy and Co, model 1883. I keep it displayed at home like this in memory of my great-great uncle, Frederick Gluth. (My surname as well) He fought as part of The Iron Brigade in the 6th Wisconsin infantry Company B. He was killed at the battle of Antietam in "Miller's Cornfield" during the early morning of Sept. 17th, 1862.
    The second one I don't know much about but I'm a bicycle mechanic and dress very similar to the style of the guy on the case so I couldn't pass it up. The dial says "Systeme Roskopf Patent" and is pin set, stem wind. Not really sure what the coin on the other side is all about either. Maybe someone else can add more if they have some knowledge on it.

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    Fairly crisp Elgin 8 size..

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    #17 Lee Passarella, Mar 29, 2019
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    That seems to be a saint's medallion rather than a coin. The Latin inscription reads, "St. George, patron saint of [horse] riders." George is not only the patron saint of England but also of soldiers, boy scouts, and equestrian types.
     
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    I'd like to know why my post was edited without contacting me first?
     
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    You were notified, Bryan, unless something isn't working right. Check your PMs or Alerts.
     
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    #20 rdixiemiller, Mar 30, 2019
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    Here’s one of mine. It’s a Waltham model 1883 Broadway, from 1890. 7 jewel, basic movement.
    The case is a really nice sterling silver hunter, in great shape. I bought it on eBay, missing the crystal, and non running. I had Whites put in a crystal, and Paul Davis serviced it and installed a new mainspring. It’s a beautiful piece. I’ve lightly polished it with Wright’s silver cream, just enough to shine up the high spots. It’s a KWKS, and it’s a pain to set while trying not to get fingerprints on the inside of the crystal.

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    #21 rdixiemiller, Mar 30, 2019
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    This one came from a jewelers estate. It’s an 1894 11 jewel Elgin. Not a very high grade movement, but decent quality.
    The case is stunning. I don’t think this Watch was carried much at all. No brassing, and the details are crisp.

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    Here’s my last one for the night. I bought this watch with a destroyed movement. It had my initials monogrammed on it! I found a 3 finger bridge Elgin orphaned movement and put it in the case. I like it!

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  23. Greg Frauenhoff

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    #23 Greg Frauenhoff, Mar 31, 2019
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    Neat watches all. Thanks for the pics, etc.

    Regarding the ones I showed to start this thread, here is a bit more info on one and what makes it interesting and special, to me anyway.

    First it's an Aurora. Aurora made only about 105,000 mvts as compared with millions for many makers such as Waltham, Elgin, Hamilton, Illinois and Hampden. Second, Aurora went out of business in 1892 whereas many makers were still producing mvts into the 1920s and beyond. Also, by the 1920s pocket watches were becoming less and less of a timekeeping necessity and more and more of a fashion item. That is, wrist watches were being increasingly used for daily timekeeping leaving many (not all) pocket watches to be used on a non-daily basis as dress watches. Thus, pocket watches in superb original condition are relatively common after 1920 (imho). All of this makes any Aurora in excellent original condition to be a very uncommon find as compared with watches by many other American makers.

    As an Aurora, the watch shown is uncommon and interesting for other reasons. It is one of their mvts made for the USJ Guild. Aurora made only about 3000 such mvts and this particular one, being a grade no. 52, is at the top of the Guild line, was railroad grade for its time and had a total production of only about 50 mvts.

    Below are some slightly better pics. Here is a link to an encyclopedia page on Aurora Guild mvts: Aurora Movements Made Expressly for the USJGuild

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  24. John Pavlik

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    Just too add, a Keystone Dust proof ...

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  25. Ethan Lipsig

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    #25 Ethan Lipsig, Mar 31, 2019
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    I have quite a few American pocket watches with lovely cases. I am particularly fond of the rather plain 56 DWT 18k AWCO case on this American Watch Company Model 1872.

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  26. Keith R...

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    I have a buddy down in Georgia with one of those, I think. Very nice watch and case John!

    Ethan, very nice model 72 also!

    Here's a Hamilton 17J in a second generation case.

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  27. Ethan Lipsig

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    Another very pretty case is the spectacularly engraved platinum case on this Elgin C.H. Hulburd. Engraved platinum cases are somewhat uncommon because platinum's hardness makes engraving difficult. The platinum here includes 10% iridium, as do most, but not all, platinum cases

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  28. Greg Frauenhoff

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    Great stuff! Keep 'em coming.
     
  29. Greg Frauenhoff

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    Here's a little more info on the Rockford.

    It is a grade no. 60 which, when made, was Rockford's highest 18s grade. A period product line price list indicates that the no. 60 came with a fancy dial and hands. This watch is completely as found. Highest grade, low production (around 300), wonderful original condition. Can't ask for much more.

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  30. Keith R...

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    Great thread Greg!

    This is my AT&Co 1864 with it's Tucker regulator, in it's Jas Boss case.

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  31. MartyR

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    Lovely case, Greg :) That looks like niello work ... and yet in places it looks painted! How is that done?

    Here's another Elgin 6 size which I think is a classically pretty case!

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  32. Greg Frauenhoff

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    It's just a regular gold-filled case. Any coloring is a result of the lighting.
     
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  33. Jerry Treiman

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    Thanks, Greg, for the additional details on some interesting watches in lovely cases.

    Here is an unusual-looking case on an 0-size Waltham Riverside Maximus. This is the 1891 model of which there were only 900 made.
    The case is made by the American Watch Case Co. (New York) and is shaped normally even though the engraving makes it look more like a sphere.
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    The case is not original to this movement. I acquired the orphaned movement many years ago. The case was acquired more recently with a lower-grade 1891 model from the same time period.
     
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    This is one of my most interesting cases. It is a hand-made case by H.W. Matalene for Waltham; the movement is a 12x14 Colonial Series with just 17 jewels. It dates from 1913. The case has a unique ornamental pendant that serves as both bow and crown. It includes Matalene’s patented construction that releases the crown for setting by moving a small slide on the edge of the case (no sleeve is needed). The ornamentation includes engraving by straight-line engine, rose engine and hand engraving.
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  35. MartyR

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    I can't resist showing you this one.

    It's an Illinois Grade 152 8s.

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  36. Ethan Lipsig

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    Because this is an American Pocket Watch thread, I am perhaps off-base in showing American cases on Swiss watches, but many Swiss watches were cased in the US, often in very lovely or unusual cases. Here are a few examples.

    Possibly unique, oval Swiss C.H. Meylan in U.S. oval 18k enameled Cressarrow case

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    Swiss P. Ditisheim in U.S. 14k enameled Depollier case

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    Swiss Gruen Carre in U.S. steel case (I have even prettier 14k Gruen Carres, but they are in Swiss cases)

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    Swiss Patek Philippe in massive U.S. 14k Jeannot & Shiebler case

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    I'm loving this thread, you all have some sweet cases shown here.
    These are my first two, watches I'd concidered keeping and so cleaned them up. After cleaning now I know for sure I won't be parting with them any time soon. The 1st is a Kingston case that I still need to research. It's housing a 1912 Elgin 15 jewel, grade 295 size 6 watch. One side depicts a tall sailboat on water and on the other has a faint outline of mountains. I almost missed the mountains but due to an earlier post here on this thread I looked again more closely. It's as if the engraver started a scene then just stopped. It's also got a nice "feel" to the case and watch as well. It just feels right in my hand.
    The second case reminds me of one of my other passions, coins, so I'm keeping this one as well. It's a Wadsworth Referee housing an 1891 Elgin, grade 82, GM Wheeler. Again, not only does the look appeal to me it's the feel of the case in my hand.
    I don't know if that's a "thing" among collectors but it is to me. It's what buying/selling online misses out on; being able to hold it in hand. For now with me it is the aesthetics of these watches. I am sure once I learn more about the mechanics I'll get "that" feeling over the actual mechanism/watch. But for now, my collecting is subject to the pretty (and a few others I'll put aside) just so I don't kick myself later down the road;)
    Thank you for showing off your cases I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for more pretties!
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    Thanks to Ethan for showing his Swiss made movements in American made cases. It gave me an opening to show my combination I recently put together and a little history of why I did it.

    According to my records it was in 2010 I found my 1st case with a cuvette made in two parts. This allowed the case to be adjusted to house different brand watch movements. The case had a patent date stamped in the cuvette, which led me to William Stewart's patent.

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    It was from the Stewart's patent cap description that I first heard of a Charles Latour watch. I have been looking for a 10 size Latour since 2010.

    Over the years I have found several more of these cases, the latest being in February, 2019. Even with small listing pictures and a poor patent cap stamp, I immediately knew what the case was and bid to win..

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    Amazingly, the day my latest patented cap case arrived, my search turned up a Charles Latour movement that would fit my case. Again I bid to win. After posting pictures on the European side I have learned that my Charles Latour is an early private label Longines.

    I think it is a well preserved neat case. Here is my latest patent cap case complete with a Charles Latour movement.

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  39. Keith R...

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    You go guys!

    I've got English movements in American cases, I've got Swiss movements in American cases,
    I've got American movements in English cases. Key wind diversity.

    Here's one of my AT&Co key winds in a coin silver case, 15J for the English market.

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    I bought this watch well over 20 years ago from a well-known mail-order dealer. Although I didn't buy it for the case, I always thought that the engraved design was a particularly nice one - and pretty crisp also. I'm afraid that my photography doesn;t do it justice.

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    I love how small, yet so detailed, this one is. Waltham model 1900, grade No.115 15j size 0.

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  42. Jerry Treiman

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    That certainly is unusual detail for an 0-size case. Lovely.
     
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    I love a pretty silver case, and Everytime this thread pops back up I think of these two watches. Both really beautiful women's cases.

    This first one is a United States watch co, new York. 0 sized. Awesome Sterling case. Unknown maker.

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    Second is a Waltham in a crescent watch co case .

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  45. Jerry Treiman

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    Those skylight cases can be quite attractive. Here is one that I have yet to find a decent movement for. It is a Keystone Leader coin silver with rose gold detailing.
    Right now it has a broken 7-jewel Elgin as a placeholder.
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    I also have an interesting travel case for watches like this. It appears to be gunmetal with nickel trim pieces. The opening in the top is presumable for a chain.
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    I have manfully resisted the temptation, but I can't any longer :whistle:

    I have to show you my most favorite "pretty case" ever, but it's an English case by James Stockall dated 1897.

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    I know this thread is about cases, but the poster who shared this 72 above, made my day. Da*n!

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    45074611_10101693536466389_1113444974130626560_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.jpg A rockford movement. Case by the short-lived WEstern Watch case Company. 18k gold 45075583_10101693536351619_3215398210696642560_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.jpg

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    Verge, circa 1820. R. Webster.

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