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  1. Scottie-TX

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    #1 Scottie-TX, Sep 24, 2009
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    How about it: Let's see your weight driven Vienna Clocks in this topic.
    Any data, provenance, dimensions, etc. you choose to add will also add to the value of the topic.
    Please; No SPRINGERS. (thanks)
    YOU start it off!
     
  2. BLACK FOREST CLOCKS

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    My only clock thats not Black Forest.

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    GREAT! I can think of NO possible better way to open this topic.
    THANKS fer opening, JUSTIN!
     
  4. harold bain

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    Great topic, Scottie. Here is my only contribution, a large (55 inch) unsigned 90 hour Vienna.

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    Here's my only one. It's very nice but made up of old parts. Movement not original to case, dial probably not original to movement, door not original to rest of case, upper column capitals not original to columns, "tail" not original, top probably not original and made up at least partly of old parts, front glass not original, lower finials not original, weights not original. Otherwise, it's perfect!

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  6. Richard T.

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    I don't know how we are defining "Vienna"......guess it's more Vienna "style"?:confused:

    Anyway, I'm not trying to split hairs on the subject....

    Best,

    Richard T.

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    #7 Scottie-TX, Sep 24, 2009
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    . . . . . and I also am not splitting hairs nor will I. I ask only, "No Springers".
    Looks like a German movement with a typical porcelain dial - weight driven - THANKS
    HAROLD! I find THAT clock indeed interesting. I hope you may be able to share more. "Ninety Hours" or apx. four days for a clock of that length? Hmmmmmm. Wonder what that winding drum looks like.
    Makes me wonder if you have a donut clock.
     
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    JEREMY: I have one here that fits your description of yours PERFECTLY!
    It's also one of my most favored.
     
  9. Jeremy Woodoff

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    Yes, I'm very fond of mine. I made some more "improvements" to it, as I documented in an old thread. I put the current tail on and bottom finials and touched up the finish, including the ebonizing, here and there. The weights that came with it were fine but too long to allow the clock to run for 7 days (it ran for about 6 23/24 days), so I substituted shorter weights. I like the slender proportions of the clock, including the large dial in relation to the case width. I've moved it from the bedroom to a more prominent location. Here's a picture of it as received.
     

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    My one and only, a two-weight. No logo/signature on the movement or elsewhere. 60-seconds seconds bit. Weights seem a bit long (i.e., barely 7 days before the bottom), and I'm not certain all finials are as they came out of production. And the painted pendulum ? Well, you decide. But a presentable piece for the money.
     
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    Here's Mine... it is marked Hora on the back.. early 1900's so ive been told

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    Great topic, Scottie.

    Here are my weight driven Vienna / Vienna style regulators.

    The ebonized clock is a Lenzkirch, circa 1881.

    The miniature is signed Leopold Henthaler in Graz. I am not sure of the last name, as it is dificult to read. Circa 1860.

    Regards.

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    Here is my contribution to this WONDERFUL SUBJECT. Great idea Scottie ! ! !:D Sorry for the photo being so light . I will try and take another one later,Mike.
     

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    Scottie, here are my two weight-driven Viennas: double weight is a Gustav Becker; the single weight is numbered but unsigned.
     

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    Scotty here are two, a better picture of the Surprentine from the other thred and an Altdeutsch three weight made by Fredrick Helm.
     

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    Heres my 1 weight unknown Veinna style..

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    Billy, Your is probably considered "Transitional". But unique.

    Here is my late Biedermeier grand sonnerie. It is a project now. It was relatively inexpensive so I got it to restore later. I don't plan on finding another inexpensive clock like this, it took several years before this on came by.

    Mechanically looks good. Cosmetically missing top, door glass, correct style weights. The pulleys are incorrect style, too. Nice clock (IMO, of course).

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    LOVE yer bantam, GNU2. I could easily lean toward having more of these. I have only one but love it. Mine will do seven days on it's short, fat weight but it'll flirt with the bottom on the seventh day.
    BILLY, beautiful top carving on yours - nice!
    RANCHER, I like 'em both but I sure favor that one weight. Nice lines, etc.
    Yours as well, CHRIS: Quality. Piecrust bezel around a very high quality dial - inlay banding - all signs of quality in a better Wiener. Thanks!
     
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    #20 Scottie-TX, Sep 25, 2009
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    Here also - one not typical of Vienna wall clocks. This 18" miniature not typical in many respects. First, it's industrial looking design with garrish application of artless buttons, beading, etc. Not typical with it's thread suspended pendulum, RECOIL escapement, and three point post mount.
    Despite it's lack of beauty, this homely little critter has ticked it's way into my heart a day at a time - is very accurate and runs one day on a winding.
     

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    Scotty it is interesting how few Surprintine clocks show up. I think they may be the Rodney Dangerfield of Vienna Regulators.
     
  22. Donnewj

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    I love Viennas. Here are a couple of mine - W. schoneberger 8 days. rosewood case and all original carvings, inlaid case is simply stunning. Next to it a 30 plus day post-dachluhr 6 lite case, knife edge suspension by carl heydt signed - earliest repair date on movement 1841.;)
     

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    "Stunning" certainly an understatement of both - both excellent examples of the Biedermeier PERIOD. I find especially interesting the top treatment on your Dachl: That it doesn't have the conventional mitered gable of most, yet is a pleasant, balanced departure. Beautiful. Thanks!
     
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    Thanks Scottie - Dachl case appears in two books - Claterbos and Miller's Clocks and Barometers. Enjoyed the thread
     
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    The dachluhr is signed Anton List; the biedermeier is signed A. Happacher and the Lanternluhr is signed Jos Winterle. The others aren't signed.
    Larry
     

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    Man! Whatta treat, LARRY. THANKS for sharing. I'm especially fond of the two Bieders.
     
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    This little orphan, a marriage of case and movement began it's rebirth here as a parts clock. I bought it only for the movement. Totally restored and refinished, has become one of my most favored. A scant, two feet tall, is a VERY efficient runner and provides well regulated time for three days per lift. This, it does on eight ounces!
     

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    Here are my three,
    One is a Franz Mosslinger in Wien, T&S, ca: 1840
    One is A. Willmann, Selicia, T&S, ca: 1890
    Another is Sneckenberger, Selicia, T&S, ca: 1890

    None of these is in their original case, all are reproductions (by me).
     

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  29. Kevin W.

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    All very nice clocks.I could not choose a favourite.
    perhaps the mini Viennas.Like what Scotte posted.
    I sure would love to own one of them, sweet.:)
     
  30. Sooth

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    Wow, what great clocks! I especially like the early Biedermeier ones, the Dachluhr, the Laterndluhr, and of course, Scottie's minis.

    Scottie, I still wish you had a site or an album somewhere with all your clocks on it. I keep saving your photos whenever I happen to run across them...

    Here is my contribution. It's the only true weight driven Vienna that I've got. Alas, it has not case yet, and was assembled from several different sources.

    The pendulum is not original to the clock, but is a good match (it will need a small modification only). The pulley is new, and the weight was also purchased separately. The dial, movement, and hands are all original.

    8 Day, Baillonet mount (in poor shape), and I also recently purchased a "porcelain" beat scale to go with it.

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    In appearance, nearly identical to the previous one - th' orphan - but only similar in appearance. This one is nearly all original, best I can tell. Top piece is not original. Like the other, only two feet tall, but despite it's size does accomplish seven days on a winding of one pound weight. No name.
     

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    This belongs to a friend . It's a nice clock and I wanted to share it as well. It is a very large clock and does have a trademark but I don't have a good picture of the trademark and after doing my research I haven't identified the maker.

    Best,

    Richard T.
     

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    This serpentine just under two feet tall is not old, nor has it a name. Most probably made in eastern Europe thirty, maybe forty years ago has a very high quality case but movement quality is mediocre altho very reliable. This is a one day runner on a scant ten ounces. Dial, 3" dia.
     

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    The most miniature of miniatures here, this Dachluhr also is not old and has no name but the case is a superb reproduction of highest quality and measures only sixteen inches! Again, a one day runner on a half pound has a recently made movement of mediocre quality altho again - very reliable.
    The trifoil hands were my addition as well as others unmentioned.
     

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    ARTIE, that's one 'elluva wall of clocks ya gots there. I know it's a lotta work but wouldja mind goin' back to it and perhaps detailing it with individual pictures or pairs? Yer WAAAAY too 'umble about yer beyootiful clock wall ARTIE.
    THANKS!
     

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    #36 Richard T., Sep 27, 2009
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    Thanks Scottie.....:)

    I will post more info as requested.

    Below are three Becker's.

    No. 1 is signed G. W. Russell, Philadelphia and there is no evidence that it ever had a top. The case is 9" wide at the center and about 11 3/4 at the widest point (top).

    No. 2. Gustav Becker Braunau factory. Strikes on a single rod gong.

    No. 3. Gustav Becker Braunau factory. Strikes on a single rod gong.

    These have been dated by John Hubby but I don't have that without searching for it.

    Best,

    Richard T.
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    Three weight grand sonnerie signed Carl Suchy & Son, Wien. Top is probably not original.

    To the right of the three weight is a time only Austrian clock; maker unknown (unmarked).

    Best,

    Richard T.
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    Right: Lenzkirch No. 365 time only, C. 1875

    Left: Unmarked time only, with "seconds" bit.

    Best,

    Richard T.
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    Gebruder Resch:

    Both strike on a spiral gong.

    The one in the center of the photo has a signed dial with the town of Fiume (became part of Hungary in 1870 and now Croatia).

    Best,

    Richard T.
     

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    Nice; VERY nice, R.T.!
    Thanks for the breakdown and closeups.
    I believe I'll take that signed Becker, top row!
     
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    I believe this one's th' real deal. Hour hand a little iffy. This piecrust bieder era only 21" tall; movement about 2" X 3"! Top piece is carved - not gesso - and has a faux grain finish. Bottom piece may be rosewood veneer. This one runs three days on a lift of the 8 oz. weight.
     

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    Here's an unusual one. I think its a marriage but nice. Some great looking clocks here, Thanks.
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    Do newer one's count.....:confused: Keinnenger, 1970's I think.. Lucite dial, Solid Oak Case, Mirror on the back, Very heavy..
     

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    #41 Scottie-TX, Sep 28, 2009
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    Shoot CONRAD; For all I know, those two repros I show may be 70s!
    Interesting clock. Never saw one like that . THANKS!
    As an aside, Erwin Sattler is currently making exquisite reproduction Viennas and others.
    I'm still kickin' my self for not pursuing one of his miniature keyhole viennas.
     
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    This one a bantam - some call it dwarf. The width is common to many viennas but is only 31" tall, giving it that, "cut in half" look. This is a one week clock - not eight days. That's pretty phenomenal considering the weight has only ONE FOOT to drop. It accomplishes this feat with an extremely small dia. drum, less than a half inch, and a heavier than average weight . A brass backed bob means quality. This may be the highest quality Vienna I have.
     

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    Here is my Rodney Dangerfield. Les thinks it's a marrige when I posted it a few mo. back. I do not know. Everthing fits to well to be a marrige but it could be. I do like the quality of the movement.

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    Good looking clock deserves more respect. Rancher:)
     
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    Marriage smarriage; One, GREAT lookin' bantam! Thanks for sharin'.
     
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    Hey it's the Caspar Posch! I love that clock. It's freakin' gorgeous.
     
  47. owen.or

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    This is my only Vienna Regulator. My dad took a shine to it so it has been hanging in my parents' house for many years. I believe it's a Schlenker and Kienzle. The top hat was a later addition, but I think it looks pretty good. David "owen.or"
     

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    KUDOS to whoever made it's hat. That's an artiste el grande! Beautiful clock.
     
  49. Donnewj

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    Here are few more - Josef Lorenz 1wt, i piece dial single weight maker signature faded, Transitional 3wt Karl Kreutz, 3wt Serpentine, and 30 day full column 60" case.
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    Scottie - the bantam you posted is fantastic! What a beautiful Vienna.
     

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    Scottie, The top hat on my clock is old. As I recall, for this has been many years ago now, I bought the hat with some misc. clock parts. I'm not actually certain it was on a clock originally. It could be something that another person harvested from some sort of furniture. I just don't know. It fit the top of my clock to within about an inch on either side, a perfect fit. Even the color was close. Thanks for the compliment. It is a nice piece. David "owen.or"
     

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