Post your MAUTHE clocks here

[Oled]

Hello Mike!

The dial most probably was originally silvered brass, but it lost the coat and now highly corroded and patinated. As per the age I suppose it is from 1920-s era.

best regards,
Oleg

 

[Sojourner]

Thanks Oleg, I appreciate and value your input. Grateful,
Mike

 

[J. A. Olson]

Seems this thread is still active so I'll post it here. This is a 1930's French Westminster chime regulator which incorporates a Mauthe movement. The movement is not signed Mauthe but was compared to signed examples and it all aligns. This clock came from Salsagev as part of a trade. He got a spare movement and other useful parts, I took in the Swiss cheez box.



The case was French made and is typical of the period, Oak veneer with pine structuring. It was badly infested with woodworm on arrival, wood finish was faded, and this took much patching, staining, filling, gluing, shellacking to make everything presentable again.



Pendulum got a mirror polish which was achieved by sanding down the aluminum pendulum surface with finer and finer grades of sanding paper, then finishing off with metal polish. The pendulum incorporates a wire which guides the bob up and down as it's adjusted for timekeeping.



Chime rods were damaged and subsequently replaced, tuning the new rods myself. The new rods are 3.6 MM diameter and have a sharp blow followed by a quieter hum. These larger rods are notably louder when struck as a chord. They are also very hard and do not like to bend out of line, which is surprising considering how the older rods bent and broke if you looked at them wrong. The new rods take about a week to settle into the block, sounding better as they settle in.



It's not a particularly grandstanding clock but it's pleasant, works alright, and I like it. These French clocks were basically divided into two categories: brand signed and unsigned. Unsigned clocks tend to be lower quality compared to their branded counterparts, but it says plenty when an unsigned model is already enjoyable.



Video of the hour chime and strike:

 

[Calvin H. Huynh]

Seems this thread is still active so I'll post it here. This is a 1930's French Westminster chime regulator which incorporates a Mauthe movement. The movement is not signed Mauthe but was compared to signed examples and it all aligns. This clock came from Salsagev as part of a trade. He got a spare movement and other useful parts, I took in the Swiss cheez box.

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The case was French made and is typical of the period, Oak veneer with pine structuring. It was badly infested with woodworm on arrival, wood finish was faded, and this took much patching, staining, filling, gluing, shellacking to make everything presentable again.

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Pendulum got a mirror polish which was achieved by sanding down the aluminum pendulum surface with finer and finer grades of sanding paper, then finishing off with metal polish. The pendulum incorporates a wire which guides the bob up and down as it's adjusted for timekeeping.

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Chime rods were damaged and subsequently replaced, tuning the new rods myself. The new rods are 3.6 MM diameter and have a sharp blow followed by a quieter hum. These larger rods are notably louder when struck as a chord. They are also very hard and do not like to bend out of line, which is surprising considering how the older rods bent and broke if you looked at them wrong. The new rods take about a week to settle into the block, sounding better as they settle in.

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It's not a particularly grandstanding clock but it's pleasant, works alright, and I like it. These French clocks were basically divided into two categories: brand signed and unsigned. Unsigned clocks tend to be lower quality compared to their branded counterparts, but it says plenty when an unsigned model is already enjoyable.

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Video of the hour chime and strike:

Oh beautiful restoration. Hope you enjoy the clock very much!

 

[Royce]

Well done Chimeclockfan!!
royce

 

[Immortal1]

Spent the better part of the day reading thru this thread learning as much as I can about Mauthe clocks. I did start a thead in the General Clock Discussion section but it seems this area might be more appropriate. Based on information already provided, the longcase clock was produced between 1914 and 1918 (Kriegs-Mod.)
Below are some various videos of the clock
Mauthe Longcase Chime
Mauthe pendulum swing on test stand
Mauthe excapement closeup

 

[Dixy]

Below are pictures of my recently purchased Mauthe clock. I think ( after reading thru this thread) production date is close to 1900. Back plate - 42/105 DRP N55006 24877. According Oleg's work it is N5. Not well seen but It is N5. Because of small Serial Number - 24877 I think it is close to 1900 but I am not shure. Any guesses? Horse and top are strange too. Gong?

 

[Tatyana]

Below are pictures of my recently purchased Mauthe clock. I think ( after reading thru this thread) production date is close to 1900. Back plate - 42/105 DRP N55006 24877. According Oleg's work it is N5. Not well seen but It is N5. Because of small Serial Number - 24877 I think it is close to 1900 but I am not shure. Any guesses? Horse and top are strange too. Gong?
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This clock is younger, the movement was made ~ 1908-1914.
Mauthe had a constantly zeroing numbering.

Regards
Tatyana

 

[Zultra]

Hello,

Cleaning up some old boxes I found this clock that used to hang in our kitchen at my moms house. No idea if it's worth keeping. It's missing the front glass but does work. On the back it has what looks like a serial / model number?

 

[JTD]

Hello,

Cleaning up some old boxes I found this clock that used to hang in our kitchen at my moms house. No idea if it's worth keeping. It's missing the front glass but does work. On the back it has what looks like a serial / model number?

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Welcome to the board.

I don't think your clock ever had a front glass.

It's not valuable but yes, it's worth keeping, especially since you say it works. And it's a family heirloom, which is more important than monetary value.

Hang it up and enjoy it.

JTD

 

[woytos]

Good morning
I want to ask about my clock
What You can tell about him?

 

[new2clocks]

Good morning
I want to ask about my clock
What You can tell about him?

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Welcome to the forum.

Your clock was made between 1902 and 1914, based on the trademark.

Based on the style, I estimate that your clock was made between 1902 and 1910.

Regards.

 

[woytos]

Welcome to the forum.

Your clock was made between 1902 and 1914, based on the trademark.

Based on the style, I estimate that your clock was made between 1902 and 1910.

Regards.

Thanks.
Do you ever seen this trademark on mechanism like that? I cant find similar.

 

[new2clocks]

Do you ever seen this trademark on mechanism like that?

Yes.

Mauthe was one of the largest producers of clock movements (mechanisms) and were in business for many, many years. They made many, many movements.

Regards

 

[Tatyana]

Good morning
I want to ask about my clock
What You can tell about him?

Your movement is made in the Austrian branch of F.Mauthe in Bregenz.
There is an earlier number 45932 bearing the Victoria patent 5194.
Most likely the clock was made closer to 1902.

 

[Tim4t]

A friend's wall clock, only identified as a Mauthe as a result of this useful thread, and following on from:

https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/post-your-mauthe-clocks-here.54369/post-533013

I'm told it spent most of its life in a pipe smoking household, and may never have been cleaned. These pictures are as I received it!

 

[Mike Mall]

A friend's wall clock, only identified as a Mauthe as a result of this useful thread,

You need to wear gloves when handling this one, not to protect the brass.

 

[Tim4t]

You need to wear gloves when handling this one, not to protect the brass.

It was quite grim. The clock, and I, felt much better after a good bath.

I realise I also have a FMS marked movement with no case. It looks like a similar era, from the logo

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[gemad]

Seems, I am the least qualified person to be presenting clocks.
However, I have always been known to have Balls.

Acquired the older of my two Mauthes, before the pandemic of Covid 19.
A large multi windowed case, and the typical grotesque dark case.
No name on the dial, but the bar chimes is a Mauthe product.
So I have jumped to the conclusion that I own a Mauthe.

The pendulum swings quietly and slowly.
Odds are the case was refinished in a fashion,
and it does look presentable enough,
but certainly, not to be confused as a true Antique.

What i like about it is the fact
that I got it from this Tall Attractive long haired Blonde Woman,
living in among the trees on the mountain top.
Who would have even known the house was in there.
She was so cheerful and glad, that I had come to get it.

The clock was broken and never did run in the time she owned it.
Yet she so loved it on the wall of her rustic, yet modern home.

The other Mauthe is quite a bit more modern.
Reminds me of an alarm clock,
as it has a built in Winder on the back.
A nautical theme rope wall hanger.

I tend to be an eclectic collector,
and I enjoy my experiences with Mauthe.
I hope you al, don`t mind, a true amateur in your midst.

 

[Mike Mall]

I'm working on an old German wall clock. It has a Mauthe movement, and a Kraft Behrens Gong. It has no labels, or trademarks, that can be seen without removing the movement.
Question:
Is this a Mauthe clock, with a Kraft Behrens gong? Or Kraft Behrens clock, with a Mauthe movement?

 

[new2clocks]

Is this a Mauthe clock, with a Kraft Behrens gong? Or Kraft Behrens clock, with a Mauthe movement?

The answer will depend on how you define 'clock'.

The Mauthe movement has imprinted on it "Gongschlag", which means "Gong Strike".

As Mauthe sold "loose" movements, both marked and unmarked" to the trade, this appears to be a movement sold to the trade. Whomever (I suspect a wholesaler) put this clock together purchased a Mauthe movement, a Kraft-Behrens gong and its anyone's guess who made the case and dial. (And this was not uncommon in the German clock industry.) The other possibility is the gong was replaced with a Kraft gong at some point, but I see no evidence of this.

There also is not much known about Kraft-Behrens, who were located in Leipzig. Did they make movements or purchase them? Did they make cases? Were they wholesalers? I am not sure.

If it were me, I would describe this as a clock with a Mauthe movement, as the movement is the heart of the clock.

Regards.

 

[JTD]

There also is not much known about Kraft-Behrens, who were located in Leipzig. Did they make movements or purchase them? Did they make cases? Were they wholesalers? I am not sure.

Answers to some of these questions can be found in Schmid's 'Lexikon der Deutschen Uhrenindustrie'.

In 1891 Kraft-Behrens started work in Leipzig with about 20 employees, making clock cases of 'above average beauty'. The cases were of very high quality and K-B became famous as a case-maker, buying in the clock movements to fit inside. This business flourished and he was soon exporting clocks all over the world.

Kraft-Behrens bought in movements from various manufacturers, and fitted them out with pendulums, dials, weights and hands which were also bought in. Some of the movements were marked with Kraft-Behrens name or logo.

This was the situation until at least 1910. As well as clocks, K-B was also dealing in jewellery. In 1910 K-B,.who by this time had 165 employees, bought a large factory site with a railway connection and began advertising they could supply 'loose' movements to the trade. Whether or not K-B actually made these movements is not clear. The first world war intervened and records dealing with the war years and the years immediately after have been lost.

Hope this helps.

JTD

 

[soonj0]

Hello everyone! Been reading this post and it is so interesting to understand abit more on the history & intricacies of clocks!

I started collecting table clocks and now have 6 of them. Recently a friend is thinking of disposing a family grandfather clock.

I would hate to see it be junk, but not sure if I can afford to restore it and maintain it well as it is difficult to find restorers here in Asia.

I have 2 pictures only so far. Will try and get more. Any ideas on how old it is and whether I should try and save it? My heart says yes but I need some expert opinion

 

[J. A. Olson]

This looks like a fairly modern - 1980's or newer - clock. The late Hans-Heinrich Schmid had explained that modern German factories such as Kieninger and Jauch KG made a habit of selling clock movements to overseas markets with the brand trademarks of older firms for the sake of regional familiarity. They went to eastern Asian nations including Indonesia which seems to be the current hotspot for these clocks. The subject of reproducing these clocks under old brand names has evaded published reference.

The most redeeming factors with these clocks would be the deep voiced chimes and large, easy to read dials. Worth a try at restoration before banishing it to the dumpster. Clocks with the Westminster chime were produced in larger numbers. Clocks with other chimes such as Ave Maria are rarer. A video:



The cases were made somewhere in eastern Asia while the movements came from Germany. Names on the dials include Junghans, Kienzle, Mauthe, De Luxe, and sometimes corruptions thereof such as 'Moathe'. They bear some passing similarity to a German original but the case proportions are a bit off. Photos showing similar cases being built anew from a Vietnamese shop, posted for the sake of reference:



And an original 1930's era case for comparison:

 

[Joe Gargery]

I acquired this clock today. I cannot seem to find any maker's mark on the movement or the dial face but it sure looks to be a Mauthe to me. No eagle logo so it must pre-date the mid 1920's? It has a Viola Gong. The beveled leaded glass is very nice. Pendulum bob has a nice swirl pattern I have not seen before. The dial shows some wear but I think that gives it some character, other than that, it seems to be in pretty nice shape. I do not have a key for it, but I hung it on the wall, gave the pendulum a swing and it's been running for a couple of hours now.
I will remove the movement tomorrow and share pictures of it here as well. Does anyone happen to have a catalog reference for this particular model? I would like to approximate the year.
Cheers, Joe

 

[new2clocks]

It has a Viola Gong.

The Viola Gong was a Mauthe trademark, so presumably your movement is also an unmarked Mauthe.

Any chance that we will see a picture of the movement (front and back)?

Regards.

 

[new2clocks]

No eagle logo so it must pre-date the mid 1920's?

Mauthe used various eagle logos from 1902 to WW II.

Regards.

 

[Joe Gargery]

Yes, new2, I will remove the movement tomorrow and post several good clear pictures of it here.

 

[Joe Gargery]

Here are the pictures of my movement as promised. I also included a picture of the gong.
I'm happy to report the clock ran all night and chimed correctly on the hour. I found it was approximately 5 minutes slow after 12 hours of run time so I can correct that pretty easily with the pendulum adjustment.
I have a question, inside the case, on the lower left corner there is clearly a rectangle of glue left over from a previous label. Directions perhaps? If you look very close there is even a minuscule piece of the paper label still stuck in place. With a magnifying glass I'm still able to read lower case "sw" that remains on that scrap. I found a few remnants of this label stuck down between the case back and floor which I was able to extract with a razor blade. Unfortunately there is very little remaining. Can anyone here give some insight or share an example of what this label may have looked like?

 

[Tatyana]

The movement of your clock was made by Kienzle

For comparison:



Regards
Tatyana

 

[Joe Gargery]

Thank you Tatyana, It looks very similar but yours has a maker's stamp, mine has none.

 

[Joe Gargery]

Darn!
I should have known better. I removed the movement to take the pictures, gave it a gentle clean and lube, re-installed and now it will not run more than 4 or 5 minutes. It ran very well yesterday.

 

[Jirawat]

Hello Everyone, May I share you for my Mauthe Clocks as below;
1.1st Mauthe Clock, It has golden dial, black number, one Hammer and Coil Gong, Eagle on FHS Logo stampped on the movment plate.
2. 2nd Mauthe Clock, Silver dial, black number, three Hammer and Rod installed in inclined line, Smalll Eagle & FHS logo stampped on the movment plate, Insllation manual of Pendulum was provided. Let's see more attached photos.

 

[Dave T]

Darn!
I should have known better. I removed the movement to take the pictures, gave it a gentle clean and lube, re-installed and now it will not run more than 4 or 5 minutes. It ran very well yesterday.

Same thing happened to me on a very similar Mauthe movement. But what I soon discovered is that the two screws that hold the anchor bridge were not quite tight enough and the bridge had dropped a bit and lowered the anchor into the escape wheel.

 

[Joe Gargery]

I got mine back up and running as well Dave.

 

[gvcmel]

Almost done with this clock so posting a couple of shots to get confirmation on the movement and case.
Background: sat in a closet for 40 years and was "black" with age and dirt. Carefully cleaned the old finish off and discovered a nice looking clock under the grime. Still trying to get the springs cleaned up but runs and keeps reasonably accurate time.

 

[new2clocks]

Almost done with this clock so posting a couple of shots to get confirmation on the movement and case.

Welcome to the forum.

What kind of confirmations are you seeking?

Regards.

 

[gvcmel]

Welcome to the forum.

What kind of confirmations are you seeking?

Regards.

Appears that the works are 1921-1924 according to the mark on the works but the case suffered some modifications during its life. Not shown is the head(?) piece from the case that is different wood and was held on with two small nails.
Thanks