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Here is a Lenzkirch 26 spring movement clock that I have. I'm hopeful that someone will share a photograph or trade catalog illustration of this clock so I can see whether the finials are correct and what the crown piece, now missing, looked like. The serial number is 412888 which places its manufacture to c.1877 according to the table in George Everett's book. In my experience the pendulum is less common than the porcelain center variety.
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Hello Brett,

From Oleg's table, attached here and on other pages in this thread, 412888 should date to around 1882, give or take a couple of years either way. I've also attached a catalogue that is supposed to be 1883 although I can't vouch for its authenticity.

Michael

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tarant

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Here is a Lenzkirch 26 spring movement clock that I have. I'm hopeful that someone will share a photograph or trade catalog illustration of this clock so I can see whether the finials are correct and what the crown piece, now missing, looked like. The serial number is 412888 which places its manufacture to c.1877 according to the table in George Everett's book. In my experience the pendulum is less common than the porcelain center variety.
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Catalog from the year 1883 (as the whole in pdf above). There are some differences (hands, pendulum), but this is the same model IMO.
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Thank you to Michael and Piotr for the information about my clock! I appreciate your sharing! Perhaps some day a crown piece may be replicated to make it look correct again!
 

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I just picked up this Lenzkirch clock but it's got the wrong pendulum bob. I searched through this whole thread and couldn't find a clock like it.

Does anyone have a similar clock or a catalog that might show what the bob should look like? The serial number is "1 million" 876,802, if that's helpful (i.e. maybe made around 1918).

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new2clocks

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I just picked up this Lenzkirch clock but it's got the wrong pendulum bob. I searched through this whole thread and couldn't find a clock like it.

Does anyone have a similar clock or a catalog that might show what the bob should look like? The serial number is "1 million" 876,802, if that's helpful (i.e. maybe made around 1918).

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Matt,

As I stated in your original post, below, Lenzkirchfan will be able to assist you better than anyone.

1918 Lenzkirch mantel clock. What pendulum bob should it have? | NAWCC Forums

Now you have duplicate posts on the same subject. This only causes confusion.

Be patient for Lenzkirchfan to respond.

Regards.
 

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I just picked up this Lenzkirch clock but it's got the wrong pendulum bob. I searched through this whole thread and couldn't find a clock like it.

Does anyone have a similar clock or a catalog that might show what the bob should look like? The serial number is "1 million" 876,802, if that's helpful (i.e. maybe made around 1918).

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Hi Matt,

That's a rare kind of a clock and it will be very difficult to find similar one. And in my knowledge there are no public available Lenzkirch catalogs from 1914-21 era. During the Great War most probably they were not published at all... But if you browse through catalogs from 1911-13 you'll notice that Lenzkirch had very simple pendulums bobs on it's tisch-uhren". Here are some examples, I think you can easily find something similar on the market.

Best regards,
Oleg

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nawccmatt

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Matt,

As I stated in your original post, below, Lenzkirchfan will be able to assist you better than anyone.

1918 Lenzkirch mantel clock. What pendulum bob should it have? | NAWCC Forums

Now you have duplicate posts on the same subject. This only causes confusion.

Be patient for Lenzkirchfan to respond.

Regards.

I would have removed the post in the other area but it doesn't seem to be possible.
Hi Matt,

That's a rare kind of a clock and it will be very difficult to find similar one. And in my knowledge there are no public available Lenzkirch catalogs from 1914-21 era. During the Great War most probably they were not published at all... But if you browse through catalogs from 1911-13 you'll notice that Lenzkirch had very simple pendulums bobs on it's tisch-uhren". Here are some examples, I think you can easily find something similar on the market.

Best regards,
Oleg

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Oleg, thank you very much, this is very helpful!
 

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I would have removed the post in the other area but it doesn't seem to be possible.

No it isn't, the only way you can get a post moved is by asking a moderator.

Having two posts on the same clock is very confusing,

JTD
 

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Recently, I came across this signed Lenzkirch clock, needing some obvious TLC. I believe it is a case model 589 with a model 26 (spring / time & strike) movement. I still need help confirming the case model number, so far I have not come across a catalogue reference or an example in this thread to confirm the case model number?

The serial # on the movement places it around 1879 and the stamp on the back of the walnut / ebony clock case could indicate it to be a model 589. At any rate, If anyone can help me confirm I would be very grateful. Ultimately, I plan to restore both movement and case but would like to confirm my assumption(s).

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Welcome to the forum.

You made an excellent acquisition. IMHO, Lenzkirch was one of the best of the German massed produced clock companies.

The serial # on the movement places it around 1879

According to the latest Lenzkirch dating, your movement was made in 1881 (which is around 1879, as you stated).

a model 26 (spring / time & strike) movement.

You are correct - you have a model 26 movement.

I believe it is a case model 589

There are folks who have access to Lenzkirch catalogs and will be along to assist in answering this question.

Regards.
 

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Hello all.
This is a recent Lenzkirch that I have recently restored. This is a model 819
The serial number is a 1 million 476678
Regards

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Having followed your restoration on another thread, I suggest you post on this thread the "before" pictures of your clock, so all can see the wonderful restoration you performed!

Regards.
Thanks for the suggestion, add the link to the restoration post.
 

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Just had this Lenzkirch time-only passed to me. This is my third "Vienna" and they have all managed to break my heart. So beautiful but, so vulnerable and wounded. This one did not take long to diagnose. She presents with a detached escape wheel, broken EW pivot, broken suspension spring and bent crutch. Movement other wise free wheels under the weight of the pulley alone. I am not an experienced clocksmith; just a hobbyist who has disassembled and cleaned/lubricated around 6 mostly American weight driven clocks. I believe that repairing a pivot on such a fine movement as this is beyond my capability. I am not interesting in hanging or storing a non working clock. IMG_20221205_134425792.jpg IMG_20221205_131426240.jpg IMG_20221205_134959282.jpg IMG_20221205_135108499.jpg IMG_20221205_135315577.jpg Is there some reputable person known to the group who could do this repair by my shipping the movement only? Any other suggestions are welcome.
 

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Your Lenzkirch dates to 1880-1881 give or take a couple of years.


The repair you need is fairly straightforward. At the top of the forum page, see "Local Chapters" and search for Connecticut and you will find Chapter 148 and some contact details. They should be able to steer you towards a skilled repairer.

Michael

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nutmegtinker

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Your Lenzkirch dates to 1880-1881 give or take a couple of years.


The repair you need is fairly straightforward. At the top of the forum page, see "Local Chapters" and search for Connecticut and you will find Chapter 148 and some contact details. They should be able to steer you towards a skilled repairer.

Michael

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Some days ago I bought an old clock at a fleemarket in Sweden and I have now identified it as a Lenzkirch clock. I have no experience of old clocks so I now have some questions about this clock. I think the clock is in a decent condition appart from some parts of the case beeing loose and probably some ornamental ”spires” or ”knobs” on top and below the clock missing. I have no idea about how the clock is working however.

-Do you know how old it may be?
-Do you know what the missing pieces may have looked like?
-Do you know what the value of this clock may be?

Best regards,

Fredrik Sambergs

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Thank you for your help! How interresting. I will now try to find some matching finials to make my clock complete.

Best regards
 

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I'd been reading about the quality of Lenzkirch clocks and looking on Ebay regarding what's available and at what price, when I walked into an antique shop in a nearby town and saw this little fella on the wall. Looked quality in it's black laquer miniature case, gilt bronze mounts and grid-iron pendulum with ornate gilt bronze bob. Owner thought it was a Junghans until we took out the movement and saw the Lenzkirch trademark. S/n is 385564 and there is also a no.26 on the movement. Obviously it's a springer, but I really liked it and as the shop had a half price sale on all its clocks I haggled it down a bit more from an original GB£650 to £300. Overall height is 34"/87cm. Any further info/comments on this little clock would be most welcome. Looking at previous threads on the message board and internet sites, I think it dates from around 1867-1877 depending on whose stats you go on.

Hi Jeules0,
I have a movment and pendulum are look similar to your Lenzkirch clock but my movement did not stamp Lenzkirch's logo on the movement, only number 26269.
I'm not sure my Clock is Lenzkirch or not.

Regards,
Jirawat

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Jueles,

Very nice find and at a good price. Congratulations!

Your ebonized, spring wound Vienna style regulator by Lenzkirch is very similar to mine.

My experience has been put it on the wall and wind it every 2 weeks. (It is an 8 day but will easily tick for 2 weeks.) It is a very accurate timekeeper and has not caused any problems. It is a well made clock that you will enjoy.

Regards.

Hi new2clocks,
I have a unsigned movement, only stamped number 26269 on the movement plate, a pendulum is the same to your pendulum.
I'm not sure my movement is Lenzkirch or not, please kinldy help me for information,sir.

Regards,
Jirawat

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Hello Jirawat,

I think your movement is not Lenzkirch. The suspension spring mount is usually single sided for Lenzkirch. Your's is double sided.

I'm not certain, but I feel your movement is made by Mauthe. Others will know more.

Michael
 

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Hello Jirawat,

I think your movement is not Lenzkirch. The suspension spring mount is usually single sided for Lenzkirch. Your's is double sided.

I'm not certain, but I feel your movement is made by Mauthe. Others will know more.

Michael
Hi Micam100,
Thank you so much for your information.^^
 

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Here are the two latest Lenzkirch additions to my clock family. The porch model is a miniature: 27"x8". The other is a full size +++. Information and questions gladly accepted!!

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You just made my day! I actually recently acquired the same model as your larger wall clock, but mine was missing the finials. I searched high and lo through my documents but couldn't find any images anywhere showing what the finials would have looked like. and just like magic find your post. I shot you over a PM, wondering if you can help me out with some photos to have mine reproduced. Hope to hear from you!

I'll attach a picture of mine for reference. I fell in love with the casework, she needs a little TLC but should polish up quite nicely :)

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The round movement Lenzkirch 1427 appeared on the Russian forum.
Unfortunately, there is no case. According to the owner of the movement , the estimated length of the pendulum is ~ 32 cm.
What could be the case for such an early movement?

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Tatyana,

Is it possible for you to provide here a link to the Russian Forum ? I am sure many of us here would be interested to read about the clock collecting scene in Russia.

Mun C W
 

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Tatyana,

Is it possible for you to provide here a link to the Russian Forum ? I am sure many of us here would be interested to read about the clock collecting scene in Russia.

Mun C W


In order for the pics to open, you need to register,

Regards
Tatyana
 

MUN CHOR-WENG

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Thank you Tatyata for your very quick response. I am able to read the posts in English with Google translate .

Best wishes from Singapore

Mun C W
 

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Tatyana, I was able to see pics just now without registering.
Michael
 

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Thank you so much Tatyana, for providing the information that I was looking for. You certainly are very knowledgeable on horological matters online.

Thank you once again.

Regards

Mun C W
 
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The round movement Lenzkirch 1427 appeared on the Russian forum.
Unfortunately, there is no case. According to the owner of the movement , the estimated length of the pendulum is ~ 32 cm.
What could be the case for such an early movement?

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Regards
Tatyana

Hello Tatyana,

I want to thank you for participating in our forum. Every time that you post a comment, it is always very informative. I have used your thread to the Russian forum "Dating Lenzkirch Clocks" and I looked at every post! It is very exciting that so many are participating in that forum. There is a great "wealth of knowledge" demonstrated there and I will continue to watch it.
As far as this movement . . . I'm not positive that it is Lenzkirch. I'm leaning toward it being French. I know that it has a lot of the signs that we look for to identify early Lenzkirch movements. I see the "UHRENFABRIK IN LENZKIRCH" on the dial and it makes me hesitate to say it is French. What a quandary! In my database, the first Lenzkirch round movement that I have found is No. 188725 so I'm thinking that they were not making round movements in the very early days. Especially in the first 2,000 movements. It is with uncertainty that I think that this is a French movement. If it is Lenzkirch, then I think that the movement and dial are much younger than the No. 1427 would indicate.

Steve
 

alec

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Hello,
I would like to add my recently acquired Lenzkirch bracket clock to the wonderful collection already on this post.
The movement is apart at present for service/repair, the main issue being broken teeth on the time side mainspring barrel, which I am in the process of making a replacement for. The case woodwork has a few issues but nothing serious.
Regards, Alastair

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