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  1. Steve33

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    The original gong appears to have been replaced. There's no evidence that this was not the original movement in this case, but there are holes where a different gong had been mounted.

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  2. gintarasb64

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    I bought this beautiful Lenzkirch clock with 1st logo and SN201321 . It would be very interesting to see original design of this clock or similiar one. There are no holes or any other signs that it had crown. Unfortunatelly dial has scratches and minute hand is poor replacement. Any advice on Lenzkirch parts source would be very welcomed. Any other information also
    Regards
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  3. gintarasb64

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    No comments on possible case design?
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  4. gintarasb64

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    Still waiting for comments about this nice Lenz :)
    Regards
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  5. new2clocks

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    Gintaras,

    You may need to wait until LenzkirchFan has the opportunity to read your posts:). He has quite a bit of Lenzkirch literature.

    Regards.
     
  6. gintarasb64

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    Thank you :) I know that there are many experts of Lenzkirch clocks in this forum, I hope they will respond :) The design of this clock seems to me unusual for this period (~1874) and requires deeper discussion:)
    Gintaras
     
  7. LenzkirchFan

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    Hello Gintaras,

    You have a nice Lenzkirch regulator. My favorite is the first trademark movements. I think that I have seen a similar Lenzkirch and will look through my files to find it.

    Are the wood frames around the glass on the sides joined by a 45 degree miter?

    Please give me a little time to reply back to you. I have over 4,000 clocks to look through!

    Steve
     
  8. gintarasb64

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    Steve, thank you for your response, I will wait for your search result. Wood frames are joined with miter, if I understood yor question corectly. See attached picture. Regards
    Gintaras

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  9. LenzkirchFan

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    Thank you Gintaras. I was talking about the wood on each side where the long, narrow glass is. Where you can look in and see the movement. However, I am sure that you have a case made by the Lenzkirch factory.

    I did not find a picture of an actual clock but I did find your clock in the catalog. It is a model 106 and I am putting the catalog picture here for you to see.

    Hope this helps you!

    Steve

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  10. LenzkirchFan

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    model 106.jpg
    This is a better picture!
     
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  11. gintarasb64

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    Steve, thank you very much for this information. Of course this will help a lot :)
    Regards
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  12. Gary Ewald

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    Wow...now that is spectacularrrr! I hope you conduct paid tours to see it in person.
     
  13. Gary Ewald

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    Here are the two latest Lenzkirch additions to my clock family. The porch model is a miniature: 27"x8". The other is a full size +++. Information and questions gladly accepted!!

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  14. new2clocks

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    Beautiful Lenzkirch clocks!:coolsign:

    The one on the left (the smaller one) is called (take your pick) a free swinger or open well or Berliner.

    Regards.
     
  15. gleber

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    The more I see of your collection, the more I like it! Do you have a site with photos of your clocks?

    My collection can be seen using the My Clock Collection menu selection at the site in under my avatar. I think I would trade almost all for the few of yours I have seen.

    Tom
     
  16. Gary Ewald

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    Thanks for your kind words Tom. I have been picking one up here and there over the last 15 years. No web site I'm sorry to say. I favor the European brown clocks. I will post a few as I go along. Right now I am watching a collection in Palm Springs with a dealer that is contemplating retirement in a few months. His pieces are more than double their value so I'm waiting for him to realize the current values and them I will jump in. I'm telling you his inventory is to die for. Posting a Furtwangler grandfather clock that I really enjoy. Be well, and stay tuned….
    Gary

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  17. Orlando

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    My first and only Lenzkirch (so far). I would be very interested in knowing what my top should have looked like. Thanks.

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  18. Tatyana

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    Hi, Orlando!

    The case of this clock is unlike the branded Lenzkirch. There is a similar model from the 1912 Gustav Becker catalog:


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    BR, Tatyana
     
  19. Orlando

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    Tatyana,

    Thanks for the quick response. In my brief search I too found a similarly to that Gustav Becker model.
     
  20. Oled

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    Hi Colleagues!

    I have a question to all Lenzkirch enthusiasts. We have here a small (miniature) wall clock from around 1855 era. The case is definitely local, Russian, with brass and pewter inlays. The dial diameter with the bezel is approx 15 cm. All the details like bezel, dial backplate and pendulum parts are stamped with the same number as a movement - 2770. I know, it is quite common for French movements to have 4-digit numbers, but in this case I have a quite a strong feeling it is not just another French movement, but early Lenzkirch. As you probably know, George Everett has a very similar small miniature Lenzkirch in his collection, with number 1099 (see the last print-screen from his website). How do you think, could it be an early Lenzkirch clock? All opinions are highly appreciated!

    Best regards,
    Oleg

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  21. LenzkirchFan

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    Hello Oleg,

    I think someone put a French portico clock movement in a wall case. I do not think that the movement is Lenzkirch. The first round Lenzkirch movement that I find in my database is number 188725 and it is a table clock.

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  22. LenzkirchFan

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    Here is my early (22107) Lenzkirch model #9. It is a 26 series movement with serial number 22107.
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  23. jmclaugh

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    I agree.
     
  24. Ticktocktime100

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    Hi,

    Yes, I too agree that it is a mid 19th century French movement like that of portico clocks, however I have seen these miniature French wall clocks before and am inclined to believe that the movement is original to the case and that it isn't a marriage. The inlay and quality of the wood look strikingly strikingly similar to what you would see on a standard portico clock case. I could be wrong, but there's my two cents worth.

    Regards.
     
  25. JimmyOz

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    You just have to look at the pendulum length, it is way to short for that case, however would be perfict for a portico, I would say a marrage
     
  26. Ticktocktime100

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    Hi,

    I just noticed that the clock strikes on a gong, which would indeed confirm that it is a marriage as the movement would have originally struck on a bell - hadn’t seen that initially.

    Regards.
     
  27. JimmyOz

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    On this movement it has been set up for a bell (holes in back plate), however not all French clocks did, they made the same movement for use with a gong for a lot of Black Marbel mantel clocks, these do not have the holes for the bell post.
     
  28. Ticktocktime100

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    In addition, the French movements designed to strike on a gong have a different type of hammer, with a cylindrical brass head and leather tip.
     
  29. sun6364

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    Hallo, ich möchte Euch auch einmal eine kleine Anzahl meiner Sammlung präsentieren.

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  30. LenzkirchFan

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    Hello sun6364, welcome to the message board. A very nice Lenzkirch collection!
    Hallo sun6364, willkommen im Message Board. Eine sehr schöne Lenzkirch Kollektion!
     
  31. Cherie W

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    Hello, I have this old beauty which has been in my family for many many years. I have had different opinions on the possible manufacturer, either Lenzkirch or Austrian company Gebruder Resch. Could anyone please confirm which may be correct?

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  32. JTD

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    It might have been better to have continued the thread you originally started, rather than post it in here which is for clocks which are Lenzkirch.

    A moderator can combine the threads if he deems it necessary.

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  33. Steven Thornberry

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    The best reply you are likely to receive was made by Tatyana in this thread, that it is a Gebr. Resch movement. In any event, it is not a Lenzkirch. Moreover, It serves no purpose or benefit to post the same request in three separate threads, which will undoubtedly be read by the same persons. Sometimes, 100% certainty is not obtainable. But we shall see.
     
  34. LenzkirchFan

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    Hello Cherie W,

    Your clock is not a Lenzkirch. I am not an expert on Gebruder Resch but I don't think it is one of those either - I may be wrong on that. However, I know that it is not a Lenzkirch.

    Steve
     
  35. LenzkirchFan

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    Here is my latest acquisition and restoration project - just finished. It is a Lenzkirch Model 27 CA 1861. Steve

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  36. alec

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    Hello,
    I have in my workshop for service/repair a Lenzkirch time only wall clock which is missing the pendulum leader and pendulum,photos (hopefully) attached,
    I have no idea of the leader or pendulum length as I have not,as yet, found any info. on the movement,if anyone could assist me I would be very grateful.
    Thank you.

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  37. LenzkirchFan

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    Hello Alec,
    Lenzkirch did not use pendulum leaders on movements of this style. Attached is a picture of a pendulum that is on serial number 824734 which is a 52 series movement - as yours is.
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  38. alec

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    Hello Steve,
    thank you very much for that.
    Alec
     
  39. dw2007uk

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    Hi

    I've spent some time reading about the serial numbers and suspect this clock may belong to one of the 'restarted' batch of numbers.

    Nonetheless, does anyone know the rough age of this clock, please? The serial no. is 74388 and there's a Lenzkirch A. U. G. logo stamped on the movement, along with a '2' and '5 2'. The serial no. is also stamped on the rear of the dial.

    The bottom of the dial says 'Moscow' (in Russian lettering) but I'm not sure what the name on the top of the dial is.

    Thanks
    David

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  40. new2clocks

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    The "2" represents what Lenzkirch considered their "second quality" movements.

    The "52" is the movement model.

    Based on the most up-to-date information we have on Lenzkirch serial numbers, your clock was made in 1888.

    Regards.
     
  41. Tatyana

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    Hi, David!

    There is an excellent Lenzkirch numbering table made by a Moscow colleague Oleg.
    According to this table, the movement was made in 1888.

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    On the dial of the inscription Г.Мозер (H. Mozer ) - this is a large trading house in Russia.
    Number 2 - second class of Lenzkirch movements
    5 2 - length of the pendulum in French inches and lines.

    BR, Tatyana
     
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    Thank you both for the useful info!
     
  43. skyclock

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    Help please. I have tried to research with no luck (including reading many of the posts in this thread). What are the correct weights for Lenzkirch clocks? Here is one I am working on and it came with 2 miss-matched weights (both in weight and looks). One is 3 lbs 3 oz, the other is 3 lbs 10 oz. As a note, I am afraid the movement is not original to the cabinet so if anyone recognizes the model, please let me know. Lenz 1.jpg Lenz 2.jpg Lenz 3.jpg Lenz 4.jpg
     
  44. Tatyana

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    I believe this case is original.
    Here is a picture from the 1870 catalog:

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  45. LenzkirchFan

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    Hi Skyclock. It's a model 28. I have collect Lenzkirch clocks for 40 years and have never weighed a weight! I'll weigh a couple of them and let you know.
    Steve
     
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    Thank you Tatyana and Lenzkirch fan. I am not used to both quick and useful replies on the NAWCC site anymore. Makes me want to come back! I am happy that it isn't a "marriage" although the backboard has a lot of extra holes. Yes, please weigh some weights. I was surprised I couldn't find any info on Lenzkirch weights. Picture of hooks too please, in case I have similar ones. Here are a couple of picks of the case after some work. It was in horrible shape. 20200806_095138.jpg 20200806_095605.jpg
     
  47. LenzkirchFan

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    #647 LenzkirchFan, Aug 14, 2020
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    I weighed two weights that I am reasonably sure are Lenzkirch weights. One weighed 3 lb 5 oz and the other weighed 3 lb 4 oz. That should work well with your movement.
    Steve
     
  48. skyclock

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    Thank you Steve. I will now try to get two that look the same! I am in work on the movement. 20200811_115542.jpg
     
  49. skyclock

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    570.jpg Completed. it is missing the two downward pointing finials off of the crown.
     
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  50. LenzkirchFan

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    Very nice skyclock. You can even make the two small pieces by taking a 1/4" dowel and shaping it with a file.
     
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