Post your JUNGHANS clocks here

[Betzel]

Love the photo, 10:27 and light angles in that first shot. And, nice writeup. I would also love to see more of the actual clock as well --if you can.

I think they went full-on into the war, so it's likely not much exists from that 40-49 period...

 

[Dave T]

I have three Junghans.
The last is an Inverness from 1906. I got it for a good price on craigslist but it's missing the hour barrel with the snail and one of the small pointers. If anyone has these parts, I would appreciate hearing about it.
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You might try Timesavers for a pointer: Pointer 1-1/4" Long

 

[Teckelhut]

This is mine. My very first antique clock I ever purchased. Dated 1898. I wish I knew more about it. Like the model and all. Sorry I can't be of more help on that one.

 

[MikClock]

new2clocks: thanks for the offer but I was not seeking confirmation of manufacture date. And the year I listed was an estimate of final assembly - not when the movement was finished.
The research paper was something I wrote for my own reference but figured it might be of use to others. They can download it now or not. But just photos do not explain this clock which is why I did the write up. That is how I see it.

Betzel: Thanks for your feedback. That first shot in their catalogue looks like a scene from Touch of Evil - should be smoke in the room somewhere!

I have attached some other photos.
I do not want to take apart the clock now just to photograph the guts but I documented what was stamped on it when I first got it and put that into the research paper.
It is now working "overtime" as a conversation piece on the wall of my studio.
Cheers!

 

[Jumpy]

Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

 

[Vyper4]

Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

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Looks to range from 1898 - 1915 +/- a few years.

 

[Bruce Alexander]

Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

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Hello Jumpy,

Your clock could have been manufactured as early as 1890. See this post: https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/junghans-movement-trademark.46593/post-343885. Of course it could have been manufactured more recently than that. Hopefully some Junghans collectors will see your post and weigh in with their expertise.

Welcome to the NAWCC's online Forums, btw.

Regards

Edit: Jumpy, the catalog reprint that I found your "Dickens" model in was from 1906. Junghans could have offered this model several years before, or after that "circa" date.

 

[Gecko]

I am wondering just how accurate you clocks are over a 24 hour period and thru the week. It seems I am constantly adjusting the pendulum to keep the clock close to time. I am within 1 minute in 24 hour period. Yes I know and well aware the clock is almost 100 years old. My DF reminds me the clock was build when there was no atomic clocks and accept it! My dad got his clocks to maintain a semblance to keeping time. The adjustments continue and it creeps either way?

So what say you on you clock keeping time.

 

[Vyper4]

I am wondering just how accurate you clocks are over a 24 hour period and thru the week. It seems I am constantly adjusting the pendulum to keep the clock close to time. I am within 1 minute in 24 hour period. Yes I know and well aware the clock is almost 100 years old. My DF reminds me the clock was build when there was no atomic clocks and accept it! My dad got his clocks to maintain a semblance to keeping time. The adjustments continue and it creeps either way?

So what say you on you clock keeping time.

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Ok, this is what I do, when I wind my clocks weekly I will adjust time and pendulum. If I get within 2 minutes slow for the week I am happy. I will always slow it running fast. I don’t worry about it running faster and or slower throughout the week.

 

[new2clocks]

Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

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As Bruce stated, your trademark was registered in 1890.

catalog reprint that I found your "Dickens" model in was from 1906

Junghans commenced date coding their movements in 1901.

Since your movement has no date code (that I can see), your model was most likely offered as early as 1900.

Regards.

 

[Jumpy]

Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

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Hello. We found this clock today in my husbands grandmother’s house. From the Junghans catalogue archive, it appears to be a Dickens model. I’m wondering if anyone can narrow down the age of the clock please?

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Thankyou to all who replied to my question. It is very much appreciated.

 

[Dave T]

I have never seen or heard of the Junghans Archive. Glad to know about it!
Thanks.

 

[Bardo1970]

Someone on Facebook recommended this forum to try and get some info on this clock. On the back of the movement is a stamped pfeilkreuz logo, witch I found out to be HAU, but given the style I guessed it might be made in the 1930's, so HAU was probably taken over by Junghans by that time. There are no numbers or words, neither on the dial, the movement nor the housing. It has 8 gongs, 4 that chime the Westminster melody every 15 minutes and 4 to strike the hour. Any info would be much appreciated!!

 

[new2clocks]

View attachment 700858 View attachment 700859 Someone on Facebook recommended this forum to try and get some info on this clock. On the back of the movement is a stamped pfeilkreuz logo, witch I found out to be HAU, but given the style I guessed it might be made in the 1930's, so HAU was probably taken over by Junghans by that time. There are no numbers or words, neither on the dial, the movement nor the housing. It has 8 gongs, 4 that chime the Westminster melody every 15 minutes and 4 to strike the hour. Any info would be much appreciated!! View attachment 700860

Welcome to the forum.

On the back of the movement is a stamped pfeilkreuz logo, witch I found out to be HAU, but given the style I guessed it might be made in the 1930's, so HAU was probably taken over by Junghans by that time.

After the takeover of HAU / HAC by Junghans, the HAU movements were usually stamped with date codes in the Junghans protocol.

Can you provide pictures of the complete backplate and of the upper left corner of the backplate? This may assist in determining whether your clock is pre or post Junghans acquisition.

Regards.

 

[MikClock]

Bardo1970: That is a gorgeous clock. I am envious.
Do you think it has been restored in any way or is it just a clean original?
Others may be able to confirm dates better but stylistically, this looks to me to be earlier. If 1930s, early '30s and maybe late '20s.
I have not seen that design in Junghans catalogues. (any year)

 

[Tinker Tim]

new2clocks: thanks for the offer but I was not seeking confirmation of manufacture date. And the year I listed was an estimate of final assembly - not when the movement was finished.
The research paper was something I wrote for my own reference but figured it might be of use to others. They can download it now or not. But just photos do not explain this clock which is why I did the write up. That is how I see it.

Betzel: Thanks for your feedback. That first shot in their catalogue looks like a scene from Touch of Evil - should be smoke in the room somewhere!

I have attached some other photos.
I do not want to take apart the clock now just to photograph the guts but I documented what was stamped on it when I first got it and put that into the research paper.
It is now working "overtime" as a conversation piece on the wall of my studio.
Cheers!

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Glad you added more pictures. I really like the looks of your clock! Nice job on your research paper.

 

[RickNB]

I recently acquired this Junghas Oldham Model 6777, A12 for small change. It was advertised as not working, and that was no wonder. It was really dirty, black and had some sketchy repairs. I gave it a good cleanup, replaced the suspension spring (it had broken and had been soldered) and replaced the click spring. Oiled and adjusted and it's now running well.

 

[kevin6122]

I just got a clock that has been in my family over 100 years. I'm sending it out for cleaning but I can't seem to find anything online that looks similar to this. Someone on the previous page has the same case with a different date stamp. The stamp on my movement is B10.

 

[new2clocks]

I just got a clock that has been in my family over 100 years. I'm sending it out for cleaning but I can't seem to find anything online that looks similar to this. Someone on the previous page has the same case with a different date stamp. The stamp on my movement is B10.
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Welcome to the forum.

Your movement was made in the second half of the year 1910.

Someone on the previous page has the same case with a different date stamp.

Case designs were not specific or limited to one year.

Regards.

 

[kevin6122]

Hi everyone, I just got this Junghans long case clock. Date code A13. Would anyone have an image of it from a catalogue? Thanks

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Does your clock have the hidden compartment at the bottom? I'm guessing it was for storing the level and keys and stuff. My great grandfather was a police chief and had a revolver hidden in the bottom.

 

[Lucas19019]

I really like clocks and my grandma had this really cool clock that she said didn't work. I guess she inherited it from her mom. I set her up with a turntable, stereo amplifier, and speakers for the clock.

Looking at the Junghans archive page I found a picture of the clock in their 1903 catalog. It's called a kitchener. I am not sure if that's the first year the clock was made. On the movement there is the J under the unghans logo, but there's no date code.

The clock works, she didn't have the key but it's been running for over 24 hours now. Pretty cool that the energy was still stored in the spring after possibly over 50 years. However, the hands are messed up. At 3:15 it's striking for 6.

Does anyone have any more info on this clock or Junghans clocks from this period? I'm going to try to find a place to get the clock serviced, I assume they can fix the hand problems?

 

[Teckelhut]

What a beautiful specimen. I love Junghans and have a few.

 

[Teckelhut]

I really like clocks and my grandma had this really cool clock that she said didn't work. I guess she inherited it from her mom. I set her up with a turntable, stereo amplifier, and speakers for the clock.

Looking at the Junghans archive page I found a picture of the clock in their 1903 catalog. It's called a kitchener. I am not sure if that's the first year the clock was made. On the movement there is the J under the unghans logo, but there's no date code.

The clock works, she didn't have the key but it's been running for over 24 hours now. Pretty cool that the energy was still stored in the spring after possibly over 50 years. However, the hands are messed up. At 3:15 it's striking for 6.

Does anyone have any more info on this clock or Junghans clocks from this period? I'm going to try to find a place to get the clock serviced, I assume they can fix the hand problems?

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The hand issue is easier to fix than you think. You can do this yourself. On a clock the minute (big) hand works on the inside mechanism. But the hour hand (little hand) works on friction from the minute hand.(NOTE: Never move a minute hand backwards on an antique clock) If it is striking 6 at 3:15 simply manually advance the minute hand with your finger to 4 oclock and then manually move the hour hand back to 4 (or move it to what ever hour it just struck). From then on it should strike proper. After that you should still find a reputable clock smith in your area at some point. If it has not been ran for that long a good cleaning and oiling will keep it in top running condition.

 

[tracerjack]

If it is striking at 15 minutes past the hour, move the minute hand to 15 minutes past the hour so it will strike. Then remove the taper pin holding the minute hand, take the hand off and replace so it is pointing at the number 12. This only works if the minute hand has a square opening.

 

[new2clocks]

Welcome to the forum.

On the movement there is the J under the unghans logo, but there's no date code.

This indicates your movement was made between 1890 and 1900, Junghans commenced date coding their movements in 1901.

I am not sure if that's the first year the clock was made.

You are correct. Clock (more specifically, case) designs were used for a period of time.

It is safe to say your clock movement was made in 1900.

Regards.

 

[Lucas19019]

Any suggestions for a good clock repairman in the Portland, Oregon area? I want to keep the clock running for years to come.

 

[J. A. Olson]

I would suggest getting in touch with Covenant Clock Restorations of Beaverton, OR which isn't too far from Portland.

 

[Bernhard J.]

Re: New here with a Junghans wall clock

I have had this Junghans Kitchen Clock, Group 19/792 lying about for awhile. I did not find it in the 1927 Junghans CD. It has the pull string to start the pendulum after it's hanging on the wall.

Not bad for an inexpensive clock


Best,

Richard T.

Since today I have exactly the same model number, but with the movement 271/8. This model number was also apparently made with a "Schwebegang" movement.

The seller thought it would date to 1937. That might be the start of the model number, but then with your movement 247, which was built from 1937 to 1955. The 271/8 was built from 1953-1965. Source: Kaliberliste Kleinuhr - PDF Free Download

More correct will the sellers confirmation be that the movement was fully serviced in 2021. I wonder what this might have cost, in view of the clock having now had a price tag of € 80 (starting price with no one else interested, obviously).

It looks super clean, except of some heavy handed persons using sockets for the cover nuts without due care. I would have made a cardboard with a hole in the size of the nuts and placed this before applying the socket to a nut. Scratches like that are really superfleous.

 

[new2clocks]

Since today I have exactly the same model number, but with the movement 271/8. This model number was also apparently made with a "Schwebegang" movement.

The seller thought it would date to 1937. That might be the start of the model number, but then with your movement 247, which was built from 1937 to 1955. The 271/8 was built from 1953-1965. Source: Kaliberliste Kleinuhr - PDF Free Download

More correct will the sellers confirmation be that the movement was fully serviced in 2021. I wonder what this might have cost, in view of the clock having now had a price tag of € 80 (starting price with no one else interested, obviously).

It looks super clean, except of some heavy handed persons using sockets for the cover nuts without due care. I would have made a cardboard with a hole in the size of the nuts and placed this before applying the socket to a nut. Scratches like that are really superfleous.

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Bernhard,

Can we see a picture of the back of the movement?

Regards.

 

[Bernhard J.]

Of course, here some

 

[frgugel]

Hello Everybody. I’m new here.
I just got this awesome Junghans from a flea market. The previous owner didn’t know anything about the clock so I googled and found you guys. Could anyone help me identify this piece? There is an “A08” written behind the last cog.

 

[new2clocks]

There is an “A08” written behind the last cog.

Welcome to the forum.

Your clock was made in the first half of the year 1908.

Regards.

 

[tracerjack]

As new2clocks has posted A08 is Junghans date code for the first half of 1908. The clock case is in great shape, and you are fortunate to have the crown piece. I don’t think Junghans gave names to the box cases, but I could be wrong. I hope you plan to service the movement so that it can last another 100+ years.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

As new2clocks has posted A08 is Junghans date code for the first half of 1908. The clock case is in great shape, and you are fortunate to have the crown piece. I don’t think Junghans gave names to the box cases, but I could be wrong. I hope you plan to service the movement so that it can last another 100+ years.

We have seen Junghans clocks with names, e.g., see post 10 of this thread, as well as post 43. Or do I misunderstand what you mean by "box cases."

 

[tracerjack]

We have seen Junghans clocks with names, e.g., see post 10 of this thread, as well as post 43. Or do I misunderstand what you mean by "box cases."

I must have been looking at my Junghans “box” wall clock when I posted, because the case in question is as you have pointed out (and I agree)is not a box clock. I see from the posts you marked that some cases did have model names. I suppose from the prolific naming of American kitchen clocks compared to the few catalog pages I have seen here on German wall clocks, I was under the impression they weren’t given model names. I did say that I could be wrong, and it appears I was.

 

[mgrimes]

Need help identifying missing glass on Junghans A42 Wall clock. I just acquired this clock and would like to replace the door glass with something that is period correct. I've looked at lots of images on the Internet but have not found a picture of this exact model. If anyone has one like this or info from a catalog I would appreciate an image to work from. Otherwise, I'll have to take creative license and see what I can come up with. Plain glass seems a bit boring based on the other Junghans clocks I've seen.

Also, is it possible to clean up the dial without damaging anything? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm new to the clock repair hobby so knowledge is a little lacking.

Thanks,
Matt

 

[JTD]

Welcome to the board.

would like to replace the door glass with something that is period correct.

As to the glass for your clock, I am not sure what you mean by 'period correct'. This clock is not so old that the glass would have been hand-blown with waves and bubbles, so I think you could just replace it with a normal glass. The top glass (round) would have been convex, and you can easily buy the appropriate size from one of the material supply houses.

Plain glass seems a bit boring based on the other Junghans clocks I've seen.

Not sure what you have seen, but plenty of these German box clocks had plain glass. This is easy to get from your local glazier.

is it possible to clean up the dial without damaging anything?

There is not much you can do to this sort of dial, unless you have the whole thing re-painted. I would leave yours alone, it is not bad at all and if you attempt to clean it you may easily damage the numbers. I think it is fine as it is.

JTD

 

[new2clocks]

Need help identifying missing glass on Junghans A42 Wall clock. I just acquired this clock and would like to replace the door glass with something that is period correct. I've looked at lots of images on the Internet but have not found a picture of this exact model. If anyone has one like this or info from a catalog I would appreciate an image to work from. Otherwise, I'll have to take creative license and see what I can come up with. Plain glass seems a bit boring based on the other Junghans clocks I've seen.

Also, is it possible to clean up the dial without damaging anything? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm new to the clock repair hobby so knowledge is a little lacking.

Thanks,
Matt






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Welcome to the forum.

'A42' is not a model number - it is a date code. Your clock was made in the first half of the year 1924.

I searched the 1924 and 1925 catalogs and there is no exact match to your case. This is not unusual, as Junghans, like most German movement makers, offered their movements to the 'trade' - casemakers, wholesalers, retailers, etc. - and those firms cased the movement in their own cases.

As a result, you have been given the artistic license to create any type of replacement glass that you choose!

Regards.

 

[tarant]

Similar but not identical model in 1924 catalog for Austria.

 

[mgrimes]

Thanks for the responses. A number of the clocks I saw had either leaded glass or beveled glass. Either of those would look nice but may be a bit harder to create and certainly not in my skill set. Possibly could get my daughter involved and get some help with that. The case is not ornate so something simple may be the ticket.

Fortunately the movement is in good shape and running. Needs cleaning and oiling, and some adjustment to the hammer as it is not striking the gong.

 

[Royce]

The 1923 Junghans catalog shows a clock almost identical to your clock and it was called Bochum and can be found at

https://junghansarchiv.de/fileadmin/pdf/1923_02/1923_02_0028_grossuhr.pdf The large glass pane is beveled. Hope this helps. Royce

 

[michael isaacs]

I agree with Royce, it's clean classic and works very well with the case.

 

[Betzel]

Nice find.

There is not much you can do to this sort of dial, unless you have the whole thing re-painted. I would leave yours alone, it is not bad at all and if you attempt to clean it you may easily damage the numbers. I think it is fine as it is.
JTD

Good advice is easy to come by, but at times hard to follow. Hope you are still on this side of the thought. Anyone who has done otherwise (eh, like me) stops while things are going south, wishing they could go back in time to leave things as they were ;-) The glass should not be an issue though, so all the best with that!

Also, if you think about it 1942 was (perhaps) one of the last years they made these before going (exclusively?) into the WWII business. Many collectors are unimpressed with the work that came out after the war, and feel this was the end of an era. Another reason to resist temptation with the dial? Enjoy!

 

[JTD]

Also, if you think about it 1942 was (perhaps) one of the last years they made these before going (exclusively?) into the WWII business

I think the OP's clock is from 1924.

JTD

 

[new2clocks]

Also, if you think about it 1942 was (perhaps) one of the last years they made these before going (exclusively?) into the WWII business.

The OP's movement was made in 1924.

This is one of the peculiarities of the Junghans dating codes:

A/B 32 represents 1923

A/B 42 represents 1924

A/B 52 represents 1925.

Regards.

 

[mgrimes]

Royce - Thanks..that is very close. I think I'll strive for a look along those lines....single piece with beveled edges.
Betzel - Well...many of us must try these things and learn the hard way. I tried to clean a very small area along the bottom and sure enough quickly determined to leave the rest alone.

One thing I've noticed is that the numerals on my dial are more "curly" whereas many of the images I keep seeing have a more "roman" style numerals. I wonder if that helps "date" the clock to a specific period. I seem to recall the 20's-30's being an Art Deco style.

Of course I suppose nothing says that it's all original either. It could be a A42 movement transplanted into a different case. Lots of things can happen in nearly 100 years.

 

[new2clocks]

One thing I've noticed is that the numerals on my dial are more "curly" whereas many of the images I keep seeing have a more "roman" style numerals. I wonder if that helps "date" the clock to a specific period. I see to recall the 20's-30's being an Art Deco style.

The style of font on your dial was used (or was started to be used) between the Art Nouveux period and the Art Deco period.

The font on the dial from the Junghans catalog was used at the beginning of the Art Deco period.

As a 1924 movement, your clock dial fits in that "changeover" period, where both styles were used on clock dials.

It could be a A42 movement transplanted into a different case.

If this were the scenario, you should be able to identify discrepancies in the interior of the case.

Regards.

 

[digitalblsphemy]

I posted this one before when I was restoring it. This is the finished version.

 

[Royce]

I posted this one before when I was restoring it. This is the finished version.

Nice Clock. Great job; well done!!
Royce

 

[mgrimes]

I do have a question about the gong mechanism. I took everything out of the case today so I could clean it up and when reinstalling the gong mechanism I noted that it was attached by a 10mm bolt from the back of the case, and a small wood screw inside the case to stabilize it. This essentially allows the "block" to float in the air. I assume this is relevant to the harmonics of the gong?

There is an "empty hole" in the case that lines up with a threaded hole in the left side of the "block" and I was wondering if there was supposed to be a machine screw there to help support the block? You would have to put a spacer in between the case and block though.