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Huh. To your point, I found it ($15) in a church charity sale here in the way south of France. The top bezel is plywood, but it may have been a repair.

The case is very well made, but little things are off like the nails holding the glass are not precisely positioned (oak tolerates this though) and the medallion/badge was not really on-center. If the work was done further north, and it was allowed to go out, IMHO, it would have caused a ribbing at the local beer hall after work. Like, no more beer for you, Hans, you can't get it right when you're sober!

Eh. Call it inter-war. Who knows?
 

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The nail positioning is typical on these 1930's French box regulator cases and they didn't use much wood glue either, I find these cases tend to benefit from rebuilding if they've begun to weaken at the joints or became infested with woodworm holes. The case wood is typically Oak or Pine ply with all sorts of veneering ranging from fruitwood, Walnut, Oak, or rosewood. Carvings were done by hand with the aid of patterns to give the neat, geometric shapes. Glass may be beveled or leaded.

It's a bit premature but here is another Junghans I'm working on. This one was made in the mid 1930's and has a Trinity/Westminster chime movement. Sold under the HAC/Junghans brand. The entire case had to be rebuilt and it needs new chime rods. When it is finished I will post a topic regarding its restoration.

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Sounds good. Like the look of yours.

I've seen lots of FFR's and others in southern Europe with those octagonal dials. Some are horizontally elongated with their cases.

Mine is okay. Maybe well preserved, or made differently, as it's still in very good shape. No woodworm or typical falling apartness. I once saw in Itally a honey-oak veneered GB totally disintegrated in the veneer and major structures. Talk about coming unglued! It was too far gone to save, and paints that sad picture you mentioned. Lots of humidity there. Likely accelerated the falling apart. Fairly dry here, but still need to oil the tools for the fall.

Good luck. Tuning replacement chime rods is a real skill. There's a few web-based frequency software sites if you do not have a musical ear...
 

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Please help identify this clock.
14in tall
8 point star Junghans Trademark
147 which I assume is BPM stamped on movement.
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hello, my name is paolo barbagallo, I am a new user, I am Sicilian.
I recently received this wall clock from hac hau junghans as a gift, I did some research on the net but could not find any information.
any of you have any idea what model it is and if the wood comes from the black forest?
Thank you

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Buonasera Paulo, e benvenuti.

There are people here who will know all these answers pretty close to certainly, so while waiting (it is a Friday) I am just going to say I like your clock and hope if you want to keep it, you will clean and lubricate it properly before winding it up and putting it up on the wall. It looks like only a spring has been replaced. All the rest is intact, meaning no love for a long time.

If this is not your area of expertise, hopefully you can find someone in Sicily (qualified) who will disassemble, inspect, put it all back, lubricate and adjust to keep it running for a long long time. Else, it will run, but the dirt and dried oil will grind away, shortening it's life. Be careful, a lot of people will tell you a story, dip it in cleaning fluid, then take your money. I think this gift is worth saving from either sad fate :)

So, HAC (the crossed arrows on the dial) was a rival bought by Junghans in the 30's, but they kept using the original logo. See https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/help-w...lesmans-sample-wall-clock.166156/post-1337963 for a longer story if you like. The movement (works) was made by Junghans, and looks to be a W 284. Based on the look of the plates, the easy-access barrel, the regulating instructions and modern glue under the blocks, my guess would be mid 1950's or so. To me, these were the last good years for affordable timekeepers, and yours looks unmodified and so pretty good.

After the war, almost everyone began to source raw materials less expensively to adapt and survive. But, the (Art Deco style?) wood dial still looks pretty good (walnut?) to me and seems original, wherever it came from, but I don't know about the Black Forest. I like the cream color and patina of the dial ring as well. Seems honestly aged...

But, these are just opinions and guesses. Let's wait to see what the Junghans experts have to say?
 

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Buonasera Paulo, e benvenuti.

There are people here who will know all these answers pretty close to certainly, so while waiting (it is a Friday) I am just going to say I like your clock and hope if you want to keep it, you will clean and lubricate it properly before winding it up and putting it up on the wall. It looks like only a spring has been replaced. All the rest is intact, meaning no love for a long time.

If this is not your area of expertise, hopefully you can find someone in Sicily (qualified) who will disassemble, inspect, put it all back, lubricate and adjust to keep it running for a long long time. Else, it will run, but the dirt and dried oil will grind away, shortening it's life. Be careful, a lot of people will tell you a story, dip it in cleaning fluid, then take your money. I think this gift is worth saving from either sad fate :)

So, HAC (the crossed arrows on the dial) was a rival bought by Junghans in the 30's, but they kept using the original logo. See https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/help-w...lesmans-sample-wall-clock.166156/post-1337963 for a longer story if you like. The movement (works) was made by Junghans, and looks to be a W 284. Based on the look of the plates, the easy-access barrel, the regulating instructions and modern glue under the blocks, my guess would be mid 1950's or so. To me, these were the last good years for affordable timekeepers, and yours looks unmodified and so pretty good.

After the war, almost everyone began to source raw materials less expensively to adapt and survive. But, the (Art Deco style?) wood dial still looks pretty good (walnut?) to me and seems original, wherever it came from, but I don't know about the Black Forest. I like the cream color and patina of the dial ring as well. Seems honestly aged...

But, these are just opinions and guesses. Let's wait to see what the Junghans experts have to say?
dear good evening, thank you very much for appreciating the watch, tomorrow i'm going to collect from the watchmaker for servicing, you're right the watch is maybe 50s, it hasn't received any treatment apart from cleaning the outside which i did myself otherwise it is in the conditions as in the photos
, tomorrow when I pick it up I'll post the other photos.
It has had 2 revisions prior to 1984 and 1994 and now.
However I don't know if I can write it but this watch will go on sale for a good cause.
 

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dear good evening, thank you very much for appreciating the watch, tomorrow i'm going to collect from the watchmaker for servicing, you're right the watch is maybe 50s, it hasn't received any treatment apart from cleaning the outside which i did myself otherwise it is in the conditions as in the photos
, tomorrow when I pick it up I'll post the other photos.
It has had 2 revisions prior to 1984 and 1994 and now.
However I don't know if I can write it but this watch will go on sale for a good cause.

That's all good to hear and nice that you can raise money for a good cause. I hope it does well. I agree with the dates of mid 1950s.

JTD
PS In answer to your question, no, the wood for the case did not come from the Black Forest itself.
 

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good evening the clock has been started and works well, I put the last photos,
as I said and I apologize if this is not the right section, the watch is for sale the proceeds will be used in favor of poor children to offer a Christmas evening meal, anyone interested can contact me privately, no auctions and no fixed prices. I leave the choice to those who want to buy it, shipping to be paid by the buyer

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Hello, new here. I just inherited a Junghans clock. I have no clue of any serial numbers or movement markings and scared to remove the clock from the cabinet. It needs a lot of cleaning and repair as it was not taken care of:( as soon as I get the nerve to remove the clock I will take pictures of the back. Really interested to know how old it is. It still has another pedestal it stands on not sure if I'm going to use it, it's pretty tall as it stands without it.
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Hello, new here. I just inherited a Junghans clock. I have no clue of any serial numbers or movement markings and scared to remove the clock from the cabinet. It needs a lot of cleaning and repair as it was not taken care of:( as soon as I get the nerve to remove the clock I will take pictures of the back. Really interested to know how old it is. It still has another pedestal it stands on not sure if I'm going to use it, it's pretty tall as it stands without it.
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Welcome to the forum.

Junghans date coded their clocks on the back of the movement.

We will need to see clear pictures of the backplate and we will be able to let you know when your clock movement was made. Without seeing the backplate, we can only offer estimates.

If you are hesitant to get to the backplate, and since it will probably need servicing, you can wait until the clock is serviced and ask the clock repair person to provide the pictures.

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Very cool look.

So many who might find an antique car in storage would never think the right first thing is to take it out for a full speed power run, yet will wind a clock, put it on display and let it go. This is an unusual piece, so I hope you will take the advice for proper service before setting it in motion. It may well be around 100 years old never having been taken care of. Who knows?

Also, the dial appears rotated clockwise, so something may have shifted during a (recent?) move. Pendulums and escapements are often damaged (often only slightly) during a move, and service can prevent further tragedy!

Very nice clock. I like it a lot. I hope you can find someone qualified in your area. If not, just give a shout and maybe we can help you find someone?
 
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Welcome to the forum.

Junghans date coded their clocks on the back of the movement.

We will need to see clear pictures of the backplate and we will be able to let you know when your clock movement was made. Without seeing the backplate, we can only offer estimates.

If you are hesitant to get to the backplate, and since it will probably need servicing, you can wait until the clock is serviced and ask the clock repair person to provide the pictures.

Regards.
Thank you, as soon as I get someone to come take a look and service it I will definitely take pictures.
 

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Very cool look.

So many who might find an antique car in storage would never think the right first thing is to take it out for a full speed power run, yet will wind a clock, put it on display and let it go. This is an unusual piece, so I hope you will take the advice for proper service before setting it in motion. It may well be around 100 years old never having been taken care of. Who knows?

Also, the dial appears rotated clockwise, so something may have shifted during a (recent?) move. Pendulums and escapements are often damaged (often only slightly) during a move, and service can prevent further tragedy!

Very nice clock. I like it a lot. I hope you can find someone qualified in your area. If not, just give a shout and maybe we can help you find someone?
Thanks, when I first saw this clock I was drawn to it. This piece has moved approximately 4 times and did have damage done to it in those moves.
It was originally housed in Puebla, Tehuacan Mexico.
I do have someone in mind to help me with the repairs and show me how to work it.
Thanks again.
 

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I am a new member and found this posting. My father in law purchased this clock in Germany and sent it to Oregon. MY father also enjoyed clocks and rebuilt them. But this clock was given to me by my Mother in Law. I knew it was a vintage clock. I also enjoy the chimes. I read its a bim bam chime. Is there anyway to tell its built date? My MIL stopped using the cock as the chimes bothered her. Well I found there is a adjustment to have the hammer not strike the sound bars. I was also wondering you can see a red string (See the photo) that pulls a lever, When pulled it replays the chime? Is there any operators handbook for this model of clock? Thank to all the forum users and allowing me to join and post questions.

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Welcome.

Looks great and I'll bet it sounds nice too! I think you've found the owners manual, right here. Folks who post here may have an actual paper manual, but for now, here are a few things.

- The clock is marked A32, which means is was likely made in the first six months of 1932.
- There are exceptions, but a Bim-Bam clock will strike the hours in sequence and just once on the half hour. Often, they are "chorded" meaning the Bim is one or two rods and the Bam is sounded by others. Does your clock always strike in this kind of sequence, even if chorded?
- The red string will actuate the hour strike sequence, but not right before the hour or half-hour, as it will be in a position of poise called run-up or run to warn. The rest of the time, it should correctly strike the hours, but maybe not always correctly before the next hour, depending on how close it is.

Your clock may have a silent lever, which lifts the hammer(s) off the rods so it will not make noise at all, but I can't see. And, there may also be a fine adjustment closer to the hammer shaft which limits the strike so it always sounds, but very very quietly. This is my personal preference, but you may need special tools, and things change when the movement board is shifted, as in a move, so this kind of adjustment is sometimes not easy to do correctly. I would not bend the wires with my fingers, but many people do it anyway. A few other things you may/may not know:

Mechanical objects need service on a regular schedule to avoid problems. Neglecting this can lead to expensive repairs down the road. You may not know when it was last serviced, so it may be exposed to this right now. Everything will seem normal though...

Don't turn the hands backwards. It's better to stop the pendulum and wait for time to catch up and restart. There is often an idiot-proof mechanism to prevent damage, but why push it?

It should run 8 days, but wind the clock fully the same time every week and see how well it performs. Uh, after you have it serviced, of course.

All the best!
 

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When one the hour it uses 1 striker then followed by 3 other strikers. Then on the half hour it again uses 1 striker followed b y 3 strikers. Yes it always follows the sequence as I noted above. I have only once utilized the red string once when it chimed and can't remember how much as I didn't want to create a problem (hence requesting a manual for this clock). I also included the photo of the striker adjusters. It has 2 adjustments. 1 is for 3 strikers and 1 is for 1 striker. Someone did bend a hammer and all I did was realign them with the tone bar (The inner bar). Those adjusters adjust the distance from the striker to the bar from what I seen when moving them. I did not find a silencer bar and where would I find this knob / shaft?
This clock was service 1 month before stopping the operation and you can see some slight dust build up from the oil coating, from a known clock servicer in Oregon. Thanks for the info on turning hands backwards, and in my young age my dad warmed my butt when I did this to his favorite clock! Yes I always stop and let time catch up to the hand settings.
thanks for the average weight running time of 8 days as I was wondering and suspect like my dad always utilized Sunday evenings as wing all his clocks, guess I will do as my dad did.
I was also wondering the movement sits on a wood platform and slides into the case. It was held in place by a fin nail but not set to the strike hammer and bars. Why is their so much slot left?
The case looks rather rustic and I did also post a picture of the inscription of a wreath of some type and a rams horns? any info on this inscription?
BTW the loud chimes will put me to sleep... love the sound since a kid.
Who would or where would I find a manual for this clock?

Anyone know what I should notify my homeowners insurance to cover the value of this clock? I know its irreplaceable?

By the way in my first post you can use the last attachment it has the chime video.

Thanks
Chuck

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The case looks rather rustic and I did also post a picture of the inscription of a wreath of some type and a rams horns? any info on this inscription?
The case does not look rustic to me, it is typical of its period. The 'inscriptions' you mention have no particular significance, they are just decorative trims.

Anyone know what I should notify my homeowners insurance to cover the value of this clock? I know its irreplaceable?
This clock is not specially valuable, except to you as an heirloom. Have a look at your homeowner's policy - you may find that you do not need to list items below a particular value.

JTD
 

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The case does not look rustic to me, it is typical of its period. The 'inscriptions' you mention have no particular significance, they are just decorative trims.



This clock is not specially valuable, except to you as an heirloom. Have a look at your homeowner's policy - you may find that you do not need to list items below a particular value.

JTD
Thank You JTD, After almost reading all of this thread I am now aware no values are to be given and respect the forum rules. Also good to know the engravings are not special of this and may be only a model of this tall clock.
 

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I am now aware no values are to be given and respect the forum rules.
That used to be the case but the rules were changed some time ago. We can now discuss values on here, providing the clock is not in a current auction.

Long case clocks like yours are not much sought after these days and prices are low at auction. Some quite nice long case clocks don't even sell. That is why I suggested you look at your insurance policy - it may say that only items above a certain value need to be listed separately.

JTD
 
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I doubt you will ever find a manual, and there may not be an easy way to impart years of clock experience to a new owner in just a few short messages, but we try to be helpful. And, I agree with JTD on all points. It would be very difficult to replace exactly, but you can find another one similar, etc. The emotional value is what is driving you, which is great. For most of us, that's what it is all about. In the 1930's, most of the work was still done by hand, so I would still enjoy it :)

So, yes, it's a bim (one hammer) bam (three hammers) striking clock. The second strike probably (once) sounded pretty full and resonant, which is nice when you can barely hear it in the next room, but it does not wake the dead. You will get there, but be patient with yourself and it.

A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it's not like the movement is in front of us. It LOOKS like a round, knurled-grip thumbscrew adjusts either the attack or the stop-limit of each hammer set. If it is a stop, which most are, you have to know the "flex" of the wire hammer is ultimately what you are "tuning" and for the one, it's pretty easy. For the set of three, unless it has not been changed (unlikely), then you will have to mess with it to get them all sounding the way you like, and THEN adjust them all as a set to strike louder or softer as you also like. This may require some learning on your end and (again) a fair amount of patience. When you move things, everything is altered, so this is usually done as a last step after service.

I have said "service" a few times now, right? It's not just a dip and a squirt of oil, but I will stop at that. Proper service does not leave a coat of anything behind, precisely as dust collects on it, but many old timers still dip in 2-stroke fuel and call it serviced. I can't see or say, so you will have to decide for yourself on that. Better than nothing, but lubrication failure is what slowly kills most clocks.

Each time you move the board, the distance to the chime rods, and the sound, will change. It's frustrating; I know. So, make sure the board is where it wants to be, the dial is square to the case, and door closes without hitting anything, etc. maybe this is what the nail is for? Then mess with the chime knobs and angles, etc.

HTH
 

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I am a new member and found this posting. My father in law purchased this clock in Germany and sent it to Oregon. MY father also enjoyed clocks and rebuilt them. But this clock was given to me by my Mother in Law. I knew it was a vintage clock. I also enjoy the chimes. I read its a bim bam chime. Is there anyway to tell its built date? My MIL stopped using the cock as the chimes bothered her. Well I found there is a adjustment to have the hammer not strike the sound bars. I was also wondering you can see a red string (See the photo) that pulls a lever, When pulled it replays the chime? Is there any operators handbook for this model of clock? Thank to all the forum users and allowing me to join and post questions.

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Welcome to the forum.

The clock is marked A32, which means is was likely made in the first six months of 1932.
The clock was made in the first half of the year 1923. This a quirk in the Junghans date coding protocol for reasons unknown.

The codes A or B 32, A or B 42 and A or B 52 were made in the years 1923, 1924 and 1925, respectively.

Regards.
 
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Well just after the initial start up in my home, I adjusted over several day the pendulum and got the time to hold over a 48 hour period the exact to the second. So I guess I found the sweet spot. Now I am trying to see if it will run for up to 8 days before rewind the weights. Wife loves the chimes and its not to loud either.

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Junghans Mini Regulator, believe it to be late 1800’s/early 1900’s but cannot find it in the archives to verify.

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Hi everyone, I just got this Junghans long case clock. Date code A13. Would anyone have an image of it from a catalogue? Thanks

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Hello everyone and thank you for allowing me onto the forum.
I inherited a Junghans clock a few years ago from my grandfather and finally took it out of storage this week. I know nothing of clocks (more of a watch girl) however after seeing the same clock on here and a little research I managed to attach the pendulum correctly and I'm currently working towards getting it running on time. I'm over the moon that its running and has a beautiful chime. I have a couple of questions if I may. Would it be recommended to have it professionally cleaned or serviced ? Also does it have to be wound? I have no key and wonder if it has to be a specific Junghans key I would need? Thank you in advance. 20220203_110247.jpg 20220203_110316.jpg 20220203_110414.jpg 20220203_110445.jpg
 

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Hello everyone and thank you for allowing me onto the forum.
I inherited a Junghans clock a few years ago from my grandfather and finally took it out of storage this week. I know nothing of clocks (more of a watch girl) however after seeing the same clock on here and a little research I managed to attach the pendulum correctly and I'm currently working towards getting it running on time. I'm over the moon that its running and has a beautiful chime. I have a couple of questions if I may. Would it be recommended to have it professionally cleaned or serviced ? Also does it have to be wound? I have no key and wonder if it has to be a specific Junghans key I would need? Thank you in advance. View attachment 693622 View attachment 693623 View attachment 693624 View attachment 693625
Yes, it needs to be cleaned and oiled . Yes, it needs to be wound. The correct key size can be determined by measuring the winding arbor. If you take it to be cleaned they can assist with the key or one of the experts here may be able to tell you the size. Beautiful clock.
 
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Yes, it needs to be cleaned and oiled . Yes, it needs to be wound. The correct key size can be determined by measuring the winding arbor. If you take it to be cleaned they can assist with the key or one of the experts here may be able to tell you the size. Beautiful clock.

Hello Vyper4 , Thank you for your speedy response. I shall inquire into having it looked at professionally. I'm over the moon with it to be honest and amazed that after all this time it's even ticking.
 

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Yes, it needs to be cleaned and oiled . Yes, it needs to be wound. The correct key size can be determined by measuring the winding arbor. If you take it to be cleaned they can assist with the key or one of the experts here may be able to tell you the size. Beautiful clock.

Hello Vyper4 , Thank you for your speedy response. I shall inquire into having it looked at professionally. I'm over the moon with it to be honest and amazed that after all this time it's even ticking.
 

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Would it be recommended to have it professionally cleaned or serviced ?
Yes.

Also does it have to be wound?
Yes. It needs winding once a week. You don't need a special Junghans key, just a key that fits. AS has been suggested above, you can measure across the winding arbor and buy a key but whoever services your clock will be able to provide one.

has a beautiful chime
I don't mean to be pernickety, but your clock doesn't chime, it strikes. A chiming clock will play a tune, such as Westminster chime. Striking clocks just go bong.

It's a nice clock, but more important it's an heirloom, that makes is special.

JTD
 

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Yes, it needs to be cleaned and oiled . Yes, it needs to be wound. The correct key size can be determined by measuring the winding arbor. If you take it to be cleaned they can assist with the key or one of the experts here may be able to tell you the size. Beautiful clock.

Hello Vyper4 , Thank you for your speedy response. I shall inquire into having it looked at professionally. I'm over the moon with it to be honest and amazed that after all this time it's even ticking.
Yes.



Yes. It needs winding once a week. You don't need a special Junghans key, just a key that fits. AS has been suggested above, you can measure across the winding arbor and buy a key but whoever services your clock will be able to provide one.



I don't mean to be pernickety, but your clock doesn't chime, it strikes. A chiming clock will play a tune, such as Westminster chime. Striking clocks just go bong.

It's a nice clock, but more important it's an heirloom, that makes is special.

JTD
Hi JTD
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'm currently looking for somewhere reasonably local to service it so hopefully they can help with the key too.
Please, be as pernickety as you wish. I'm learning and appreciate the education.
I love it's bong and it makes me smile each time I hear it.
 

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Hi
I’m looking for help dating my ‘new’ clock.
I loved it and thought as it was sitting as a good number in an auction (965) it was definitely calling to me.
I’ve looked around here and Google and managed to find a date of between 1900’s and 1970’s.. so you can see I’m not getting far!
It strikes not chimes, has brass weights and numbers, works well and looks spotless inside. I’ll add pictures to show the markings.
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Hi
I’m looking for help dating my ‘new’ clock.
I loved it and thought as it was sitting as a good number in an auction (965) it was definitely calling to me.
I’ve looked around here and Google and managed to find a date of between 1900’s and 1970’s.. so you can see I’m not getting far!
It strikes not chimes, has brass weights and numbers, works well and looks spotless inside. I’ll add pictures to show the markings.
Thanks for any info! View attachment 693667 View attachment 693668 View attachment 693669
Looks like a more modern clock, see if you can find it in the catalog archive. https://junghansarchiv.de/en/
 
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Gracie

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Your clock was made in 1994.

JTD
Great thanks!
I did wonder about the 94 but had read that the date was stopped being on the clocks at some point.
sadly I havnt found it yet in the catalogue that was in the previous reply, I’d got just over halfway through on a general search but swapped to 1994 and can’t find it… gonna get a tea and have another look.
Thanks so much for your replies!
I'm very grateful
 

JTD

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Great thanks!
I did wonder about the 94 but had read that the date was stopped being on the clocks at some point.
sadly I havnt found it yet in the catalogue that was in the previous reply, I’d got just over halfway through on a general search but swapped to 1994 and can’t find it… gonna get a tea and have another look.
Thanks so much for your replies!
I'm very grateful
Gracie, I apologise, I have misled you. The 94 on your Junghans movement does not refer to the date of the movement, I was thinking of a different manufacturer's dating system.

Your clock is modern, but I am afraid I cannot confirm the exact year.

My apologies once again, I am getting old!

JTD
 

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Thankfully, we're all getting older :)

Gracie, the collective knowledge, experience and wisdom is pretty amazing here, and it gets better every day. I agree with JTD, and I like it. It's as awesome as it is modern; I hope you enjoy owning it, and find room for more mechanical clocks!

If you look inside the movement, do you see any nylon-like plastic gears (on the right -seen from the back) maybe on the "fan blade" shaft? The "style" of your clock (to me) is kind of a modern-retro --a noble nod to the 19th century black forest shield-clocks. The use of plywood on the base board, the relatively "fresh" state of the folded gray leather in the hammers that hit the rods, and "hot" glue used in the construction of the case, all say modern. Their movements have always shown quality, even with economies they had to make to deal with a changing world to stay in business as times got tougher for clocks. The stamped and riveted "clutch-crutch" makes beat adjustment easier, but the split rings on the chains (rather than the old wires we used pull on to wind these up) tell us even more. And, I think there is a silent or night mode, too?

Though clean, the movement has been "sauce dipped" by a previous "repairer" as I see damage or residue on the original finish from the chemical bath, and that was done far too often in the 80's and 90's (some still do it!) to keep repairers in business against a corny $10 quartz replacement. So although it was cleaned, it was not done well by clock-lover standards. You may want to get it properly serviced. But, the decorative brass in front was well lacquered, and has aged very nicely.

This movement "model" was used in older iterations of this style which were more late-1960's looking. So space age! Yours is definitely more recent. Though 1994 is more than possible, I'm thinking late 1970's or so. All that dark, wood-grained paneling from those days brings back memories.

Enjoy!
 
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Hi All,
this is my very first post here. I got my first Junghans the end of December of 2021. I've looked through some Junghans catalogs but I couldn't find the model. The closest match is one from Kienzle model 6152b but the dial holes dont't match.

Either ways, the clock I got, came with a W103 movement which i donot know if it was the original movement for it or not.

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But the movement was butchered infront and not too sure what happened. The gears were missing and replaced with mismatched gears from elsewhere.

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I was tempted to replace the movement with a 340-020 or 341-020 15cm movement as the front holes match well. Till I found a parts clock not long ago with bad spring barrels. But generally both movements are relatively clean and shiny for some reason. I had to use the chime block from the parts clock too as the one of the rod is pretty messed up, it didn;t sound right.
 

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Gracie, I apologise, I have misled you. The 94 on your Junghans movement does not refer to the date of the movement, I was thinking of a different manufacturer's dating system.

Your clock is modern, but I am afraid I cannot confirm the exact year.

My apologies once again, I am getting old!

JTD
lol No worriesthis explains why I couldn’t find it
At least I know it’s not 94 so that’s a start.
Im wondering if it’s a hybrid as I can’t find a clock like it as I search Google images and the catalogue.
Tho I love a challenge
Thankfully, we're all getting older :)

Gracie, the collective knowledge, experience and wisdom is pretty amazing here, and it gets better every day. I agree with JTD, and I like it. It's as awesome as it is modern; I hope you enjoy owning it, and find room for more mechanical clocks!

If you look inside the movement, do you see any nylon-like plastic gears (on the right -seen from the back) maybe on the "fan blade" shaft? The "style" of your clock (to me) is kind of a modern-retro --a noble nod to the 19th century black forest shield-clocks. The use of plywood on the base board, the relatively "fresh" state of the folded gray leather in the hammers that hit the rods, and "hot" glue used in the construction of the case, all say modern. Their movements have always shown quality, even with economies they had to make to deal with a changing world to stay in business as times got tougher for clocks. The stamped and riveted "clutch-crutch" makes beat adjustment easier, but the split rings on the chains (rather than the old wires we used pull on to wind these up) tell us even more. And, I think there is a silent or night mode, too?

Though clean, the movement has been "sauce dipped" by a previous "repairer" as I see damage or residue on the original finish from the chemical bath, and that was done far too often in the 80's and 90's (some still do it!) to keep repairers in business against a corny $10 quartz replacement. So although it was cleaned, it was not done well by clock-lover standards. You may want to get it properly serviced. But, the decorative brass in front was well lacquered, and has aged very nicely.

This movement "model" was used in older iterations of this style which were more late-1960's looking. So space age! Yours is definitely more recent. Though 1994 is more than possible, I'm thinking late 1970's or so. All that dark, wood-grained paneling from those days brings back memories.

Enjoy!
Oh wow thanks so much!
I now have 4 ‘proper’ clocks (other 3 are whined up). Yes it has a little leaver at the side whichI’m guessing is the night shh mode lol.
I took some rather bad inside pictures with my phone when I was having a look yesterday, can’t tell what I’m looking at but it looks nice sorry I’m so non technical! This has inspired me to look at the makes of my other clocks and Google them. I don’t mind how old they are I just like them for what they are.
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Im wondering if it’s a hybrid as I can’t find a clock like it as I search Google images and the catalogue.
I see no reason to suppose that your clock is not totally original - not every model is recorded on the internet and just because you can't find it doesn't mean it isn't just as it should be. I have many clocks that I would never find anywhere on the net!

I wish I could date it for you more precisely, but it certainly fairly modern.

I can't see the little lever your refer to, it may be the night strike shut-off or it may be to synchronise the strike. You can tell by operating the lever - if it makes the clock strike, it's the repeat lever to synchronise the strike.

JTD
 

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I have three Junghans. The first is either a Fedora, Cimbria or a Freya depending on what top was originally on it. A letter that came with it says it was a wedding gift in 1890.
The next one is a small desk alarm Augusta from about 1912.
The last is an Inverness from 1906. I got it for a good price on craigslist but it's missing the hour barrel with the snail and one of the small pointers. If anyone has these parts, I would appreciate hearing about it.
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I recently acquired this Junghans moderne wall clock below.
I design custom homes and sometimes their contents. I have been frequently commissioned to expand and rehabilitate historic properties. My interest in clocks stems, in part, from my interest in design but also the intersection of design and technological innovation.
Saving a vintage clock from the landfill is akin to my work in finding creative ways to expand and rehabilitate historic properties. When a clock restorer finds a clever way to save something, I can relate. Such is the case with this clock.
I also have the curse of "golden ears" so the sound of a clock is critical to me. Chimes that are off-pitch, harmonics that ring sour, or a poor choice of hour-chime chord vs. melody are like fingernails on a chalkboard for me.
I must look AND listen before buying.
This clock is a simple bim-bam strike but with 4 chimes, alternating between pairs - leaving plenty of room for pitch and harmonics to play well or not so well. (It plays well.)

I date this clock's final assembly in early 1937.

The design of the case haunts me. The curvature around the face that then gets turned at the bottom in a different plane: sublime.

It is very much an Art Moderne design from that era. Bauhaus is a word that is often abused but the clock does not shame the term in my view.

I got a little obsessed with this design and how it emerged, so I did some research on it for my own reference but realize it may be of use to others.
If you share my obsession with this clock design, then you might enjoy the research paper I have attached.
(If anyone finds an error, please feel free to send correction.)
Cheers!
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MikClock

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What makes you date this clock to 1937?

Junghans date coded their movements from 1901 through some time in the 1950s. Please provide a clear picture of the back of the movement.

Regards.
Please see the attached research paper. I list the details there that lead me to the conclusion.
 

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Please see the attached research paper. I list the details there that lead me to the conclusion.
Unfortunately, attached items (such as your research paper) and links to outside sites get "lost" very often when we upgrade our site and change to a new software. The last time we changed our software (just a few years ago), many linked and attached items were lost forever. Embedded (uploaded) pictures were not lost.

Additionally, Junghans was one of the very few companies that date coded their movements so, as I stated above, a clear picture of the back of the movement will confirm your estimate of manufacture.

Regards.
 

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