Post your JUNGHANS clocks here

[The Stickman]

Here are the two I picked up today.

 

[soaringjoy]

In short, the bracket clocks are from the first half of 1910 and the
first half of 1924.
More information can be found on this thread:
https://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?85965-Back-after-some-time-away-from-here

 

[DanJH]

Can anyone help me determine the approximate age of this clock? I have not taken it apart yet so don't have what if any engravings are on the movement.
Thanks!
Dan

 

[The Stickman]

Well I brought home another Junghans clock. This one is rather a sad and lonely one. It has been painted over a few times. I wasn't even sure it was a Junghans as it is not a case design I have seen. I thought maybe someone had just put a Junghans face on it. It was at a local bid board type auction and just took a chance on it. Good thing I did. It is an A/32 movement which makes me happy as I also have an A/42. So what type of clock is this? From looking at it the clock appears to be a cheaper model. It also appears as if one of the layers of paint is original. Both things seem odd to me. Here are some pics. Any help is appreciated.

 

[hamburgrudi]

Hi I Have 2 Junghans wall clocks one bought from a dusty junk shop in Old Damascus, and the most recent was saved from a junk shop in Helsinki. Unfortunately I do not have information on the models and year of production. Any information would be appreciated.

 

[Mr Smith]

Hi hamburgrudi,

Welcome to the MB! If yours is a Junghans clock you can easily identify the year of production: all you have to do is to look for a code on the back of its movement, for example: B32 is a manufacturing date with the “A” being the 1st half and “B” the 2nd half of the year (1932).
Jürgen (one of the best experts here) will probably identify your model with his catalogues.

 

[soaringjoy]

What a wonderful experience to discover this site! I purchased my second Junghans wall clock which is in a square box 45cm x 45cm, in excellent working condition. Can someone perhaps inform me about the model7year of production?
Thanks

Welcome to the NAWCC Message Board!

Your clock is a so called dial or office clock, most probably mid to late 1920s.
They were quite popular and styles changed with minor details only throughout the years.
Yes, the movement will probably give you a dateline.

 

[soaringjoy]

Hi hamburgrudi,

Welcome to the MB! If yours is a Junghans clock you can easily identify the year of production: all you have to do is to look for a code on the back of its movement, for example: B32 is a manufacturing date with the “A” being the 1st half and “B” the 2nd half of the year (1932).
Jürgen (one of the best experts here) will probably identify your model with his catalogues.

Well, not quite, Mr. Smith.
Junghans changed the dating codes over a period of three, before adopting the W 2... codes.
B32, B42 and B52 would therefore be 1923 - 1925, appropiately.

 

[soaringjoy]

Well I brought home another Junghans clock. This one is rather a sad and lonely one. It has been painted over a few times. I wasn't even sure it was a Junghans as it is not a case design I have seen. I thought maybe someone had just put a Junghans face on it. It was at a local bid board type auction and just took a chance on it. Good thing I did. It is an A/32 movement which makes me happy as I also have an A/42. So what type of clock is this? From looking at it the clock appears to be a cheaper model. It also appears as if one of the layers of paint is original. Both things seem odd to me. Here are some pics. Any help is appreciated.

Stickman, yes, you're right about your clock being a "cheaper" model, a bargain clock.
The movement was used in more expensive clocks too; it's case and dial where they cut costs.
Junghans did offer some painted box clock cases, but these were all so called kitchen
or nursery clocks, afaik, with time only movements.
I suppose, yours would have had a wooden surface finish.

 

[hamburgrudi]

Thanks for the reply

Thanks for the information Jurgen!

 

[soaringjoy]

Can anyone help me determine the approximate age of this clock? I have not taken it apart yet so don't have what if any engravings are on the movement.
Thanks!
Dan

Dan, your clock is the model 2905 "Serbia", as listed in Victor Tang's (www.any400day.com)
1905 catalogue CD.
The model was offered as a 30 hr alarm or 30 hr strike.

 

[any400day]

Stickman, yes, you're right about your clock being a "cheaper" model, a bargain clock.
The movement was used in more expensive clocks too; it's case and dial where they cut costs.
Junghans did offer some painted box clock cases, but these were all so called kitchen
or nursery clocks, afaik, with time only movements.
I suppose, yours would have had a wooden surface finish.

Stickman,
As shown in your pictures, your clock is Model 19/6. 19 is the group number for Kitchen clocks and 6 being the model. Jurgen is correct about Junghans using cheaper celluloid dial and painted cases. I believe your clock had an original painted case and decorative motifs.

Vic

 

[any400day]

Hi hamburgrudi.

Your clock is Model 18/65 Amerika as listed in the 1923 Junghans catalog. Catalog page attached.

Jurgen,
Can we merge this thread with the "Post your Junghans clocks" thread.

Thanks

Vic

 

[any400day]

Dan,
You would need to see the markings on the movement as Junghans produced this Model as early as 1894.

Vic

 

[orlimarko]

I don`t see any number on my clock movement..

 

[The Stickman]

Stickman,
As shown in your pictures, your clock is Model 19/6. 19 is the group number for Kitchen clocks and 6 being the model. Jurgen is correct about Junghans using cheaper celluloid dial and painted cases. I believe your clock had an original painted case and decorative motifs.

Vic

Thanx Vic. Any idea what those decorative motifs would have looked like?

 

[DanJH]

Thank you Jurgen and Vic. I will take a look at the movement. Were most JH clocks of this size and made in this era 30 hour clocks or were 8 day clocks available, and the 30 hour clocks are the lower end ones?
Dan

 

[Mr Smith]

Well, not quite, Mr. Smith.
Junghans changed the dating codes over a period of three, before adopting the W 2... codes.
B32, B42 and B52 would therefore be 1923 - 1925, appropiately.

Thanks for expanding my little knowledge!

 

[The Stickman]

I don`t see any number on my clock movement..

I didn't find any makers numbers on my Vienna style Junghans either. Only thing on my movement was what looks to be a repair or service date scrathed into the brass.

 

[soaringjoy]

Thank you Jurgen and Vic. I will take a look at the movement. Were most JH clocks of this size and made in this era 30 hour clocks or were 8 day clocks available, and the 30 hour clocks are the lower end ones?
Dan

Dan, see, Junghans Bros. was founded in 1863 and rapidly advanced to being the largest German
clock manufacturer. To say it in short, they made everything that ticked.
For the history bit, they started out with cottage and mantle clocks, somewhat cruder than yours,
but in fact copies of American types with "American" type movements. Gradually, they refined their
products and developed movements of their own. At times, they offered dozens of similar mantel
clocks with a production peak around ca. 1890 to the early 1900s. These clocks almost always had
30 hr movements - just like the American originals. The clocks were designed and mass-produced to
cover the European markets on a broad-band basis.
Eventually, around WW 1, the styles became outdated and faded away.

 

[any400day]

Thanx Vic. Any idea what those decorative motifs would have looked like?

Stickman,
Attached is a page from a 1920/21 Junghans catalog.

Vic

 

[any400day]

I don`t see any number on my clock movement..

I didn't find any makers numbers on my Vienna style Junghans either. Only thing on my movement was what looks to be a repair or service date scrathed into the brass.

orlimarko & Stickman,

From my research, Junghans movements with the eight point star logo without any "A" or "B" date markings were made from 1890 to about 1900. The earliest dated AB movement that I have documented is one with a B02, that is second half of 1902.

Vic

 

[The Stickman]

Stickman,
Attached is a page from a 1920/21 Junghans catalog.

Vic

Vic Thank you so much. I am even more excited about this clock and it's restoration now.

 

[hamburgrudi]

Hi Any400day, Thank you very much for the information! That's most exciting news to me!.

Yes, please merge my thread as suggested!

Regards,

Rudi

 

[quiensabe]

Hello everyone, I just picked up this Junghans Mantle clock some days ago and I would love to know more about it.
The movement is marked W64 and if I'm reading it right it was made in 1948 03.
The numbers on the bottom of the clock (stamped numbers) are 17 1691
I do not have a catalogue with this clock in it, could someone help me in finding any information about it? That would be great.
Thanks in advance,
Massimo.

 

[soaringjoy]

Welcome to the Message Board, Massimo.
Your mantel clock case design is very similar to pre-WW 2 models,
therefore the quality should be better than on later clocks.
17 indicates the group (mantel clocks), 1691 is the case model.
The W 64 eight day Westminster movement with a Graham escapement
was produced from 1935 to 1959.

 

[quiensabe]

Thank you for the info, soaringjoy .
May I ask you some more info on it?
In short:
What are the main differences among w200 w100 and w64 movements? (if any)
Which is the newer, which the older? Are them a consequence of single movement progression, development?

Also if you have links I`ll be very happy to read them.
Thanks again.

 

[soaringjoy]

No, you can't really say, they had a logical system to the movement
models.
A W 103 (1912 - 1933) could be for a wall or tall case clock
A W 200 (1927 - 1962) was for mantel clocks, but could also have a floating balance.
The periods of manufacture often interlapsed, although some improvents or changes
were indicated by a slash, for example W 274/100, W 274/210.
After 1963, they changed to a W 700 series, for both old and new movement designs.

 

[quiensabe]

Thanks for your time and info

 

[soaringjoy]

Considering, there was a discussion going on about Drop Dials, short and long,
schoolhouse and Anglo-American clocks, etc., I had to jump on this one.
A DGC colleague posted it and granted friendly permission to post the clock here.

Looks like a very early Junghans, considering the "E Pluribus Unum" label and the lack
of the well known JH star.
Victor Tang's splendid book "Gebr. Junghans Schramberg I." has several colored drawings
of similar JH clocks, but not this model.

Perhaps we'll have to let it stand as is.

 

[harold bain]

Interesting clock, Jurgen. Looks like a pretty good copy of a relatively common American clock from the 1870-80's, right down to the tablet. EN Welch has a model called "Drop Octagon #2 that is quite similar, except for the side ears.

 

[soaringjoy]

Thank you Harold.
It looks like that could be one of the most earliest JH movements with
a half/hour strike.

 

[soaringjoy]

This is intended as information for the records only, but provided with a very
nice link for Junghans fans.

Say, did Junghans build tubular chiming clocks?
No, not really, afaik - except for one, a one of a kind.
The clock was presented to Erhard Junghans jun. at his birthday and was made
by Junghans master clock and cabinetmakers. A fine clock, I must say, with 9 tubes
and a choice of several chimes.
On that particular Sunday, 29. April 2012, the director led me around the Villa Junghans
in Schramberg, the domicile of Erhard Junghans jun., built in 1885, now a luxury hotel.
I mean, no one even takes notice of Mercedes and Porsches - Maserati and Aston Martins,
perhaps; you know what I mean.
Here's the link to start with, and there are a few more pictures hidden inside the site, so
just stroll around, if you like.
No, I won't get a discount on the rates for posting this...

http://www.villa-junghans.de/ceasy/modules/cms/main.php5?cPageId=21

 

[skyclock]

Thanks for the picture tour of a cool old "house". I like the wood in some of the rooms and of course the clock!!
Cheers, John

 

[harold bain]

Jurgen, neat hotel. The clock case looks very American, early 1900's style wise.

 

[ClockFanatic]

Hellow everyone. This is my Junghans 'Napoleon Hat' mantel clock with Westminster chiming. It has stamp of W200 293 and 169. Nice quality movement that has fine regulator for time keeping.



I have another Junghans with Westminster with later movement. I will post later after get some photos.
Thank you

 

[soaringjoy]

See, you've got the dateline right there: 03/1929. 169should be pedulum length in mm.
The W 200s were built for quite some time, ca. 1927 - 1962; they had Graham escapements.
A shame, what happened to the dial.

 

[ClockFanatic]

See, you've got the dateline right there: 03/1929. 169should be pedulum length in mm.
The W 200s were built for quite some time, ca. 1927 - 1962; they had Graham escapements.
A shame, what happened to the dial.

Just understand how to dating this clock. The dial need a full restoration. Thanks Jurgen.

 

[drjodie]

Hi All,
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge on this forum - I was able to learn a lot about our new clock
The back of the movement is stamped W64 49 11. It was purchased from an estate sale for $25 and needs a little bit of work - the poor pendulum has fallen to pieces! So it will be off to a clock repairer as soon as I get a free minute. I don't suppose anyone can recommend someone on the south side of Brisbane in QLD, Australia? It runs and keeps time beautifully though, and the Westminster chimes have a lovely tone.
Anyway, here are some pics:

Cheers,
Jodie.

 

[soaringjoy]

Welcome to the NAWCC Message Board, Jodie, and thanks for sharing your clock, which was made in November 1949.

 

[JRyce]

Hello all. I was looking for an "Introduce yourself" section, but didn't see it. So, I will jump right in to trying to post a picture of a clock I have that I am trying to discover more information about.
I have a beautiful Junghans mantle clock (fairly large) that I love, but it needs to be repaired as it does not run at the moment. This belonged to my father in-law and I am not sure how long he had it or where he got it from.
This has the Westminister chimes and the "B06" on the mech (so from what I read here already on this site, second half of 1906). I have found other mantle clocks with the same face and looks like the same mech, but none with this style case.

I want to get this clock repaired and the last time I was talking with a clock repair shop (I just took in pictures at that time) I was told it would be around $500.00 to go through it and get it running. It doesn't matter what this clock is worth, I really love the look of it and will get it repaired. I have a lot of clocks in my house but only a couple older ones at the moment.

Thank you for any information provided. James.

 

[soaringjoy]

First, welcome to the Message Board, James and thanks for showing your
lovely clock.
I will thumb through my database and get back to you, if I find the model;
the dating is correct, yes.
Your is well worth restoring and, depending on where you're at (you can post a flag
by editing your user profile), perhaps the NAWCC chapter near your can give you a
recomendation. We do have expert clock repairers here on the MB too, seethe Clock Repair
forum.

No, I couldn't find an exact match in my 1905 and 1910 catalogues.
The movement, type 103, is listed in the 1910 catalogue, though.

 

[JRyce]

Thank you very much for the welcome and information. I am in Kingston Ontario Canada (added my flags).

I will be getting this clock looked at for sure. I can tell that the chimes on it are going to sound amazing.

I also have a smaller mantle clock by Sessions that we think may be from around 1910 or so as well. Is there a spot to post "Sessions" clocks on here like this thread for the Junghans? That is a nice clock and actually still works quite well.

Thank you, James.

First, welcome to the Message Board, James and thanks for showing your
lovely clock.
I will thumb through my database and get back to you, if I find the model;
the dating is correct, yes.
Your is well worth restoring and, depending on where you're at (you can post a flag
by editing your user profile), perhaps the NAWCC chapter near your can give you a
recomendation. We do have expert clock repairers here on the MB too, seethe Clock Repair
forum.

No, I couldn't find an exact match in my 1905 and 1910 catalogues.
The movement, type 103, is listed in the 1910 catalogue, though.

 

[ClockFanatic]

My Junghans vienna style spring driven.

 

[pingaa3]

This is my clock, inherited from my Aunt. According to her it was purchased by my grandparents in Norwich England, Norwich County, from Westminister Chimes. It has a brass face. Inside it says "Junghans Wurttemberg A32" and I believe "70" in the lower right hand corner. I keep it in a corner out of the reach of the sun (on an inside wall), braced as much as possible on both sides to minimize movement. It has not worked since before I inherited it. I would love to get this clock working again. I am looking for more information on it.
Thanks, Inga

 

[soaringjoy]

Hello Inga, welcome to the Message Board.
I could not find an exact match in my catalogues and journals for your clock.
The trouble is, Junghans offered a variety of catalogues for different countries at
least once a year and they do not all show the same models.
For instance, the German 1923 JH catalogue was announced to have 216 pictured pages;
that's a horn of plenty...
There is also a slight chance, that the movement was indeed encased in England.
Your clock movement was made in the first half of 1923; the "70" is either beats per
minute or pendulum length in cm.
The way I see it, the movement needs a proper cleaning and service, if you want to keep
it running.

 

[pingaa3]

Thanks Jurgen for the information and welcome!

This is clock 1 of 3 that I have inherited from relatives, moving friends or random thrift stores.

I asked about having it cleaned and serviced at the closest shop when I dropped off another clock for cleaning. The owner recommended that I not move it all the way there (an hour away) and look for a local person to make a "house call" instead. I am going to start searching today. Thank you again for your help!

Inga

 

[soaringjoy]

I agree, a good clock repairer will pick up the movement, service it and reinstall to the
case with final adjustments.

You can post your natinal and regional flags by editing your User Profile; it's easy.
That way, we can see, where you're located and you might get more "input".

We do have a NAWCC Chapter Finder right here:

http://nawcc.org/index.php/chapter-information/find-a-chapter-near-you

They may be able to recommend someone near you.

 

[senhalls]

This is a Junghans World Time Lighthouse clock. It is marked with a logo on the front plate. No date code. Some atribute it to Doll toy maker of Germany. The time only movement runs 8 days. A bevel gear set on the minute shaft drives a shaft up to another bevel gear set in the top. A universal joint is in the vertical shaft. The eight legged spider turns once per hour. The eight small clocks have only a motion work and a hand set knob. Each small clock tells time in a different city. Considered a novelty clock it still is quite well made and keeps time well with a pendulum. I am missing FIVE small clocks for this and wish to hear from anyone with spares or parts.Please, and Thank You.

 

[soaringjoy]

Senhalls, the clock is isted in Vic's splendid 1905 JH catalogue CD.

It was originally designed as a shop window display.