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Discussion in 'General Clock Discussions' started by harold bain, Jun 3, 2010.

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  1. tomrmaguire

    tomrmaguire Registered User

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    Thanks, John!
     
  2. jtodd

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    This clock was my uncle's for many, many years. It was originally installed in the National Bank of Commerce in Rochester, NY and I'm sure he obtained it directly from them as he also lived in Rochester.


    It is an International Time Recording model 2-12 SECY, wood frame, Jan 18 1924, serial 265010. The glass front panel lifts up on a hinge at the top. I've found no other ones like it in any searches on the internet, so I'm posting this for posterity and maybe a question below.


    The original clockwork was removed long ago, so this is a "working" clock and not a collection piece. The reason I post this is that the replacement works have failed (slight buzzing, no movement) and I am trying to find an easy and direct replacement. I can claim no particular expertise in electric clock movements, and this one has no numbers or markings on the back other than:


    MODEL
    FOR A.C. USE ONLY
    105-125 VOLTS.60 CY. 2.5 WATTS
    PAT'D USA 2437201
    OTHER PATS. PENDING


    It seems to be a Lanshire E845a movement from what I can search out on various sites, but I'm not 100% certain - there appear to be many Lanshire movements that are close in description. It has a threaded shaft that holds the works onto the face. Does anyone know of a suitable replacement that is a bit more modern that would fit the hands without modification?


    JT



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  3. jtodd

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    Whoops - typo above. I meant to say it looks like a Lanshire 854a.
     
  4. DanJeffries

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    My 1921 Job cost recorder. It has hung on my wall for years and I run occasionally. Well I decided to clean it up and may have kids clock in and out on it as they do their chores. WE will see how long this last. Anyhow, the middle cover is missing, and after seeing this post several have this very model. Can anyone give me the dimensions on the sheet metal for this middle cover? I have a very good connection with a sheet metal shop, and I can have it made very easily.

    Thanks so much
    Dan

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  5. MLS

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    Well, this thing is a beast. I am somewhat familiar with the company but know nothing about this clock. I can see a movement but won’t be home for a while. It barely fit in the truck with a car seat in. There appears to never have been a bottom device since the inlay has design. Anyone have much info on a ITR like this?

    Thanks

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  6. MLS

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    Well, I finally got this red beast home. It must weight 60lbs or more. It’s 44 inches long and I gave her a little lacquer thinner to see what is underneath. It turned dayglo pink at first. Then I finally made it to some me wood. It’s going to be a lot of work but I think it will turn out after a lot of work!

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  7. MLS

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    Here’s the movement. I guess with out a serial number (not movement stamped number) there is not a reliable way to date?
     
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  11. Holescreek

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    I know this is a very old thread but it seems like the most likely place to find an answer. I am restoring an International Time recording Company model 8100 job cost recorder just like the one posted on page 1. One issue I'm having with it is that it's been gaining 1 minute per day of operation and It's missing the rod that goes from the bottom of the clock to the top of the time stamp. I'm wondering if the missing rod provides enough needed drag on the clock works to make it keep the correct time.

    I can make the rod myself but was wondering if there was a photo of an original available to work from. The connector at the bottom of the clock sits about an inch further back in the case than the connector at the top of the time stamp unit. None of the photos I've been able to locate show enough detail of this rod.
     
  12. StoveBolt

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    Different model but an ITR..

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  13. Holescreek

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    Thank you very much! I was guessing they might have used balled ends to help with the offset, but wasn't positive. Seeing this answers a whole lot of questions! If you don't mind, what is the distance from the pin on one end to the pin on the other end on yours?
     
  14. StoveBolt

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    total length16 3/4" but I think it's a taller clock than yours.
     
  15. Holescreek

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    You're right! Mine can only be about 7 1/4". Thanks for all your help!
     
  16. StoveBolt

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    No problem, good luck.
     

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