Post Your Gustav Becker Clocks Here

[Steven Thornberry]

The logo on your movement is that of the Regulatorfabrik Germania. Why do you call it Gustav Becker?

 

[String Ha]

The logo on your movement is that of the Regulatorfabrik Germania. Why do you call it Gustav Becker?

sorry! I posted wrong

 

[Kamil]

Hello.

I like vintage things, typewriters, clocks, etc. i've got two GB clocks, i was wondering what You think about it.

1 Alarm clock octagon with the same sn on mechanism and plate 19759.
2. Two waight clock with sn 1336818, what about case ?

Best Regards.

 

[KurtinSA]

Welcome to the forum! The alarm clock dates to 1866...never seen something like and it would be interesting to see what kind of case it would go in. The other clock dates to 1899.

Kurt

 

[zyx123]

Hello,

My newest GB clock, the movement has the GB "SILESIA" logo with "P42" and additional letter "P" found on the left side.
The number 378 is found on several places on the case, on the back board someone added "N 389".

As the GB "SILESIA" logo was used between 1906 to 1925 I looked at the GB catalogs that I have from that period trying to identify this clock. In the 1909 and 1912 catalogs I found a similar case in the Freeswinger section but with a round dial.
I found clocks with the same dial in "Wall Clocks" section, but I could not find this clock or model 378.

Is it a Freeswinger or wall clock?
Do we know what is the extra letter "P"?
Any information will be welcomed

Sharon

 

[KurtinSA]

Sharon -

Could yours be more of a wall clock? Looks like the pendulum is mostly enclosed. The meaning of the extra "P" has not been determined at this time. I have saved some catalog pages from 1912 which show the Gloria gong. I have a "box" clock with a P42 and letter H (reference to lantern pinions in German) and Gloria gong. I've been told my clock is likely 1925 or 1926. Your dial looks a bit strange to me. Could it be a replacement?

Kurt

 

[tarant]

Welcome to the forum! The alarm clock dates to 1866...never seen something like and it would be interesting to see what kind of case it would go in. The other clock dates to 1899.

Kurt

Alarm clock was made no earlier than 1877/8. All about them is in this thread.

 

[KurtinSA]

Alarm clock was made no earlier than 1877/8. All about them is in this thread.

Piotr -

Thanks for that. I did find the discussions where the alarm clocks were grouped together starting around that time. John mentioned several times that he had a third database for the alarm clocks but I couldn't find where he posted those numbers.

Kurt

 

[tarant]

Piotr -

Thanks for that. I did find the discussions where the alarm clocks were grouped together starting around that time. John mentioned several times that he had a third database for the alarm clocks but I couldn't find where he posted those numbers.

Kurt

I still have problems with searching since the forum engine was changed.
Discussion started about the year 2011, when i published alarm clock with the SN 13888. Here's a J.H. quote, summarizing this:
* 1876-1914 Alarm clocks were assigned separate serial numbers from all other GB clocks during this period. My data show at least 810,000 of these clocks were made in this period. It is also evident that after the commencement of WWI serial numbers were no longer assigned to alarm clocks. We don't know for sure why these clocks were handled separately but it is believed this was due to initial sales being based on imported French clocks and movements; then a separate production building was needed for the large quantity being made thus it was logical to control production using a separate serial number series. Keep in view that average production of these clocks during this period was about 21,500 per year, compared to the total of ALL other types of clocks in the order of 50-70,000 per year.

IMHO GB started production of alarm clocks later, at the turn 77/78.

 

[zyx123]

Sharon -

Could yours be more of a wall clock? Looks like the pendulum is mostly enclosed. The meaning of the extra "P" has not been determined at this time. I have saved some catalog pages from 1912 which show the Gloria gong. I have a "box" clock with a P42 and letter H (reference to lantern pinions in German) and Gloria gong. I've been told my clock is likely 1925 or 1926. Your dial looks a bit strange to me. Could it be a replacement?

Kurt

Hi Kurt

I believe the dial is GB original and period correct as there are some clocks in the 1909 and 1912 catalogs with this dial.
If this is a marriage clock (case and dial) someone replaced the round dial with GB square dial and also changed the door and glass (he did a good job).
I do not have GB catalogs between 1912 to 1924, I will keep looking to verify this clock is not in any GB catalog.

Thanks
Sharon

 

[tarant]

This is marriage, I'm afraid, but probably based on GB parts.

 

[Kamil]

What about case, especially the crown, I saw a case like this once, but with a different one ?
Best Regards

Hello.

I like vintage things, typewriters, clocks, etc. i've got two GB clocks, i was wondering what You think about it.

1 Alarm clock octagon with the same sn on mechanism and plate 19759.
2. Two waight clock with sn 1336818, what about case ?

Best Regards.

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[Kamil]

I still have problems with searching since the forum engine was changed.
Discussion started about the year 2011, when i published alarm clock with the SN 13888. Here's a J.H. quote, summarizing this:
* 1876-1914 Alarm clocks were assigned separate serial numbers from all other GB clocks during this period. My data show at least 810,000 of these clocks were made in this period. It is also evident that after the commencement of WWI serial numbers were no longer assigned to alarm clocks. We don't know for sure why these clocks were handled separately but it is believed this was due to initial sales being based on imported French clocks and movements; then a separate production building was needed for the large quantity being made thus it was logical to control production using a separate serial number series. Keep in view that average production of these clocks during this period was about 21,500 per year, compared to the total of ALL other types of clocks in the order of 50-70,000 per year.

IMHO GB started production of alarm clocks later, at the turn 77/78.

I read the entire section from the first to the last page. I also tried to find out what this medal was on the clock

 

[skyclock]

Here is one I recently got. Looking to know the date. Braunau , s/n 765275.

 

[Tatyana]

Here is one I recently got. Looking to know the date. Braunau , s/n 765275.

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The answer is in this post https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/post-your-gustav-becker-clocks-here.10545/page-2#post-71775
The turn of 1916/1917 .

Regards
Tatyana

 

[skyclock]

The answer is in this post https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/post-your-gustav-becker-clocks-here.10545/page-2#post-71775
The turn of 1916/1917 .

Regards
Tatyana

Thank you, I could not find that post! Regards, John

 

[JamesBB]

Can anyone help me work out what the slot in this (broken) GB P64 pendulum is for or where it attaches? Quite a few GB pendulums of the same size don't seem to have the slot and I'm not sure what it is for. Thanks! It is off a 1903 GB Vienna Regulator.

 

[RickNB]

It's where the "tongue" of the beat adjuster goes.

 

[skyclock]

Another new to me Vienna regulator. Circa 1907.

 

[Ken ADL]

Hi All,

I have been looking to buy a GB long-case clock for years until I had a chance to come across this beautiful clock last week.
Both case and mechanics are in excellent condition. This is now my treasure among other clocks I have in my collection.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Kind Regards,

Ken

 

[Chris.K]

Well it is kind of a bad pic but here is mine.

 

[Kamil]

Hello.

I like vintage things, typewriters, clocks, etc. i've got two GB clocks, i was wondering what You think about it.

1 Alarm clock octagon with the same sn on mechanism and plate 19759.
2. Two waight clock with sn 1336818, what about case ?

Best Regards.

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Hello what about logo on dial. In my logo is miniature alarm clock in crown?
Best regards.

 

[KurtinSA]

Kamil -

No significant research has been done (that I'm aware of) on the logos on the dial, just the back plate.

Kurt

 

[eemoore]

Hi All,

I have been looking to buy a GB long-case clock for years until I had a chance to come across this beautiful clock last week.
Both case and mechanics are in excellent condition. This is now my treasure among other clocks I have in my collection.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Kind Regards,

Ken

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I noticed the logo on this movement which would indicate that this movement was produced somewhere from 1923-1932. However there is not a serial number except for the 0 seen on the right side of the back plate. Is there serial number anywhere ? Certainly a nice clock.

 

[KurtinSA]

eemoore -

I'm not sure what "this movement" is you're referring to. But if there is no serial number plaining visible on the back plate, then there isn't a serial number. The meaning of the "O" on the back plate has not been determined.

Kurt

 

[skyclock]

Another Gustav Becker I have. Circa 1907. S/N is 424681

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[rjdj2000]

Hello,

First time poster here. Just purchased this Gustav Becker clock a week or so ago. Did not chime at the time and upon further inspection this past weekend, the spring that goes behind the rack was not in the correct position. After getting that fixed and the hammer adjusted, it chimes beautifully now.



Unfortunately I did not get a picture of the back of the movement to try to get it dated. At some point I will get a picture of it so I can get a date of the clock.

 

[Tatyana]

Hello,

First time poster here. Just purchased this Gustav Becker clock a week or so ago. Did not chime at the time and upon further inspection this past weekend, the spring that goes behind the rack was not in the correct position. After getting that fixed and the hammer adjusted, it chimes beautifully now.

Unfortunately I did not get a picture of the back of the movement to try to get it dated. At some point I will get a picture of it so I can get a date of the clock.

Hello!
Your clock is made in the Austrian branch of Braunau no earlier than 1899.

Regards
Tatyana

 

[rjdj2000]

Hello!
Your clock is made in the Austrian branch of Braunau no earlier than 1899.

Regards
Tatyana

Thank you for the information. I knew it was old, just not sure on how old. Now I have an idea on approximate age.

 

[eemoore]

eemoore -

I'm not sure what "this movement" is you're referring to. But if there is no serial number plaining visible on the back plate, then there isn't a serial number. The meaning of the "O" on the back plate has not been determined.

Kurt

I was referring to the movement in the post by Ken ADL. , attachment 732416,as I referred to. So i take it that some GB movements were made without serial numbers?

 

[KurtinSA]

So i take it that some GB movements were made without serial numbers?

Yes.

Kurt

 

[J. A. Olson]

On both of my Beckers there were three points where the serial number is stamped: front plate, back plate, and the spring barrels' frame.

It's possible the serial was stamped somewhere else on the movement, otherwise it's among those few movements that skipped the serial.
The same case shape with some minor differences is seen in the 1928 catalog along with the dual chime movement HWW Gong No. 15:

 

[bud-burg63]

Hello,

New to site and new to clocksmithing. I recently purchased a GB Silesia at an estate sale. I've cleaned and oiled it. Had to shorten the pendulum a bit, not sure if it's original. Seems to be keeping time well. I have just one question, how long does the clock run with a fully wound spring. It's a P42 is that helps. I know that relates to the pendulum length, but more.info is better than less. Attached a pic.

thanks, Bill

 

[new2clocks]

Hello,

New to site and new to horology/clocksmithing. I recently purchased a GB Silesia at an estate sale. I've cleaned and oiled it. Had to shorten the pendulum a bit, not sure if it's original. Seems to be keeping time well. I have just one question, how long does the clock run with a fully wound spring. It's a P42 is that helps. I know that relates to the pendulum length, but more.info is better than less. Attached a pic.

thanks, Bill

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Welcome to the forum.

If you provide a picture of the back of the movement, our Becker experts can provide you with a date of manufacture.

Regards.

 

[bud-burg63]

Welcome to the forum.

If you provide a picture of the back of the movement, our Becker experts can provide you with a date of manufacture.

Regards.

This is the back. I believe since it's a Silesia, it was made in Freiburg some time between 1909 and 1925. I've included another picture of an inscription on the back of the face
Perhaps someone has an idea what it may be.

thanks, Bill

 

[J. A. Olson]

Similar clocks appear in the 1910 catalog. I don't have the serial number database on hand.
The case style is sometimes known as a Freeswinger, however terminology is subjective.
The dial pan writing is typical of vendors and repairers alike, and without further reference it means virtually nothing.
Half hour coil gong strike on a Gloria Gong or Dom Gong, both of which were produced during the 1910s-1920s time frame.

 

[bud-burg63]

Similar clocks appear in the 1910 catalog. I don't have the serial number database on hand.
The case style is sometimes known as a Freeswinger, however terminology is subjective.
The dial pan writing is typical of vendors and repairers alike, and without further reference it means virtually nothing.
Half hour coil gong strike on a Gloria Gong or Dom Gong, both of which were produced during the 1910s-1920s time frame.

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Thank you. As for a serial number, I have not found any on the mechanism. I believe I've read this was common on units coming out of Freiburg. John Hubby mentioned that in a post date Dec. 23, 2008.

thanks, Bill

 

[tarant]

This is the back. I believe since it's a Silesia, it was made in Freiburg some time between 1909 and 1925. I've included another picture of an inscription on the back of the face
Perhaps someone has an idea what it may be.

thanks, Bill

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Pendulum leader was redone (lower hanger looks like taken from Junghans probably). Could you show the whole pendulum? Motif on the center of the dial should correspod to that on the pendulum bob.

 

[bud-burg63]

Pendulum leader was redone (lower hanger looks like taken from Junghans probably). Could you show the whole pendulum? Motif on the center of the dial should correspod to that on the pendulum bob.

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Yeah I'm guessing there may be some different parts. When at the estate sale, there were a number of clocks. Looked like they worked on them. I had to shorten the length of the pendulum, I couldn't raise the bob high enough to keep time. Attached pictures. Is keeping time well now. First clock I worked on, so a learning experience, been fun.

Bill

 

[JTD]

I've included another picture of an inscription on the back of the face
Perhaps someone has an idea what it may be.

The writing on the back says: Wegener. Remlingen. S 39400

Wegener is a surname, Remlingen is a small town in Bavaria, near Würzburg.
This was probably written by a repairer and the S 39400 is likely the repair ticket number.

JTD

 

[bud-burg63]

Pendulum leader was redone (lower hanger looks like taken from Junghans probably). Could you show the whole pendulum? Motif on the center of the dial should correspod to that on the pendulum bob.

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Yeah I'm guessing there may be some different parts. When at the estate sale, there were a number of clocks. Looked like they worked on them. I had to shorten the length of the pendulum, I couldn't raise the bob high enough time keep time. Attached pictures. Is keeping time well now. First clock I worked on, so a learning experience, been fun

Bill

Yeah I'm guessing there may be some different parts. When at the estate sale, there were a number of clocks. Looked like they worked on them. I had to shorten the length of the pendulum, I couldn't raise the bob high enough to keep time. Attached pictures. Is keeping time well now. First clock I worked on, so a learning experience, been fun.

Bill

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I found what may be the correct pendulum for the clock on ebay. Don't know which leader would be right. With the P42 stamp, I believe it needs to measure 42cm from pivot to bottom of the bob.

 

[bud-burg63]

The writing on the back says: Wegener. Remlingen. S 39400

Wegener is a surname, Remlingen is a small town in Bavaria, near Würzburg.
This was probably written by a repairer and the S 39400 is likely the repair ticket number.

JTD

very cool! thanks

 

[bud-burg63]

Yeah I'm guessing there may be some different parts. When at the estate sale, there were a number of clocks. Looked like they worked on them. I had to shorten the length of the pendulum, I couldn't raise the bob high enough time keep time. Attached pictures. Is keeping time well now. First clock I worked on, so a learning experience, been fun

Bill

I found what may be the correct pendulum for the clock on ebay. Don't know which leader would be right. With the P42 stamp, I believe it needs to measure 42cm from pivot to bottom of the bob.

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would love to bring the clock back to original configuration.

 

[demoman3955]

So ive been debating on posting on this thread, so i thought id ask a question first. I have a few Beckers, if i post here, should i post them one at a time, or as a group of photos?

 

[new2clocks]

So ive been debating on posting on this thread, so i thought id ask a question first. I have a few Beckers, if i post here, should i post them one at a time, or as a group of photos?

One at a time.

Post them - we would like to see them!

Regards.

 

[bud-burg63]

would love to bring the clock back to original configuration.

I'm going to look at a Gustav Becker tomorrow and it has a brass plate on front on the bottom. Tried to translate, but didn't make sense. Any ideas?

 

[JTD]

Tried to translate, but didn't make sense. Any ideas?

It says '[given]For the marriage from colleagues of the company G. Lange N.'

It is not easy to translate directly, for instance the first two words 'zur Hochzeit' literally mean 'to the marriage', which is fine in German but that doesn't make a good translation in English. The engraver seems to have chosen a plaque that is too small for the text, so we have two abbreviations in the middle and the ambiguous 'G. Lange N.' at the end, which seems to be the name of the company 'the colleagues' worked for.

Hope this helps.

JTD

 

[bud-burg63]

It says '[given]For the marriage from colleagues of the company G. Lange N.'

It is not easy to translate directly, for instance the first two words 'zur Hochzeit' literally mean 'to the marriage', which is fine in German but that doesn't make a good translation in English. The engraver seems to have chosen a plaque that is too small for the text, so we have two abbreviations in the middle and the ambiguous 'G. Lange N.' at the end, which seems to be the name of the company 'the colleagues' worked for.

Hope this helps.

JTD

It does, thanks. Unfortunately I noticed the decorative wood piece is missing from the top. There is a slot for it. Not sure I'm going through with the purchase.

 

[String Ha]

Good day and greetings from Hanoi, Vietnam!
So I've been passionate about old watches for a while. I don't call myself a collector, because my collection is so modest, maybe not in quantity but in the quality of the collection. Due to limited financial resources, I focus on saving old watches, forgotten ones...

 

[KurtinSA]

Can you show us more of the clock? From the serial number, it dates to the middle 1908.

Kurt