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  1. Hairyarsedpeanut

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    Haha... apologies if I’ve been replying to the wrong people
     
  2. Hairyarsedpeanut

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    Is there an easy way to move it over ta?
     
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  4. JTD

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    H-A-P : I think you are confusing several posts. MuensterMan's posts were not about your clock.

    Post # 3040 from Tarant was also nothing to do with your clock.

    It might have been better to have started a separate thread for your clock to avoid getting it all mixed up with other posts. Never mind, it can't be helped. You just need to look to be sure that posts are relating to your clock and not earlier ones.

    To answer you last question, this clock is certainly worth saving and restoring.

    JTD
     
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    Cheers pal... I’ll learn ha... I put some photos up now then hopefully with annoying everyone
     
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  8. Hairyarsedpeanut

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  10. roadkill1954

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    I was recently asked to take a look at a friend's Gustav Becker clock. He said it's been in his family for a long time, possibly since the 1930's. He remembers it from he was a kid (he's 81 now) so his father may have been the original owner. He said it hasn't run in probably 50 years but he likes the way it looks on the wall at his house. The case is a little beat up, warped, and cracked but definitely repairable. The movement appears to be in near-perfect condition.

    I've worked on clocks for several years but this is by first GB. I'm trying to get some information on the age of the movement. It appears to have come from the Brunau factory but, based on comments in this thread, the serial number is an unreliable reference for that information.

    It's a two-weight movement and the serial number is 37013. It's been worked on in the past as it has some tool marks and a couple replaced parts. I will not be breaking the movement down as it all looks in great shape and just needs some dust removal and oil. I've attached a few photos.

    I'd appreciate any information or guidance and let me know if any additional information would help.

    Thanks for the help,
    Eric...

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  11. KurtinSA

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    Eric -

    Welcome to the message board! Thanks for the nice background on the clock and that it's been a family treasure for a long time. The clock was built in the factory in Braunau and based upon the serial number, was likely built in the first quarter of 1905.

    Kurt
     
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    Kurt:

    Thanks for the quick and informative reply--I'm sure my friend will be excited to know the clock is 115 years old! I forgot to mention in my original post that after an initial quick cleaning, the clock runs and keeps excellent time.

    I'll be retiring in a couple years and I'm looking forward to spending more time with my clocks. It's good to know that this message board is here and that it's such an excellent source of information.

    Thanks again,
    Eric...
     
  13. Hairyarsedpeanut

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    I’m still trying to find a serial number database? Can anyone provide a direct link please?

    Thanks

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  14. KurtinSA

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    Hi Eric

    It would be nice to have some pics of the clock, not only the movement.

    Sergio
     
  16. Oleg

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    I greet you, dear experts and forum participants!
    Please look at my watch.
    Is there a directory with a picture of my watch in 1905 and later? Interested in the correspondence of the watch case and mechanism. What was the color originally and where to read about the ways to restore color?
    As originally was attached the glass? (photo attached)
    And also please rate the watch and completeness of the watch case.
    Thanks!

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  17. Jeff71

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    Looks like I have the same case, although mine has been refinished where it probably lost the black finish on the details. I will enclose photos of the finials that came with my clock. I am not an expert and don't know that they are original but I think they are lovely and look appropriate.

    Jeff

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  18. Wgh

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    Gustav Becker ? Brought from Germany by my ancestors "Wisee" family. Just moved from my mom's home to mine. Keeps good time. Beginning to research on it.

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  19. KurtinSA

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    Welcome to the message board, wgh! In order to help identify the clock, we'll need to see clear pictures of the back of the movement.

    Kurt
     
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    Have to research how to access the back. When I will get clear photo. Thank you.
     
  21. Marcin Stecki

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    Good aferrnoon,
    It is my first post here - hello everyone! I am form Poland, collecting and renovating wall clocks (mostly Gustav Becker).
    I'm getting ready for a new renovation project - the GB clock - it's been waiting long enough but must be done perfectly and acurately to the origial. It is my wife family's heritage and will stay in our home forever :).
    I am asking you for help in identifying the missing elements of the wood case (what should be the whole top - (if any?), bottom rolled finals and possible ornaments on the bases of the columns, corners above the dial and the ledge just above the door.
    I attached a few pictures showing the affected areas. Presumably the cock hasn't any central rolled final on the botton (no mounting hole, just plain veneer).

    What weight (appearance, weight?) The present one it is not original and too heavy.

    The clock is large (the largest in my collection :)) - 100 cm x 42 cm box, 23 cm dial diameter.
    The mechanism is probably 30-day, dated 1898 (s / n 1323007) form Freiburg. Unfortunately the GB catalogs that I have start in 1909 and there is nothing similar.
    Maybe someone would enable me a GB catalog from the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries or you have a similar clocs in your collections?

    Thank you in advance for any help.
    Marcin

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  22. Tinker Tim

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    Hi all! Newly acquired GB.

    Purchased this today via Craigslist. Case is a bit overdone for my taste, but I like the engraved dial face and pendulum.Case needs a little work, but everything's there. Time train works but strike and chime do not. I'm guessing it's a bit newer based on the brass face and chime rods. Braunau logo and serial number of 16560. I don't know a lot about GB clocks, although this is the third one in my family. Any thoughts you would like to share are welcome.
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  23. KurtinSA

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    The serial number dates to the clock to early 1889. The scroll work looks nice!

    Kurt
     
  24. Tatyana

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    A rod gong is installed in the clock, and this is not earlier than 1899..
     
  25. KurtinSA

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    Maybe John's dating info, especially in the early years, needs some fine tuning!!

    Post Your Gustav Becker Clocks Here

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  26. Tatyana

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    Kurt, I will assume that the serial number has lost one digit. For example, "3". Then the serial number will be 316_560, this corresponds to 1903.

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  27. KurtinSA

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    #3077 KurtinSA, Sep 30, 2019
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    Tatyana -

    I, too, thought that there might be a digit obscured on the end, but it seems pretty clear that the number is as it shows. I've never heard of digits not being stamped on GB clocks. Is there a chance that the rod gong could have been installed in an earlier case, or that the movement was transplanted into a later case? I am certainly no expert in these types of clocks...I was just going by the work that John Hubby had completed.

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  28. new2clocks

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    I believe that Tatyana is stating (Tatyana - please correct me if I am wrong) that Johann Obergfell is generally considered to be the "inventor" of the rod gong, at least in Germany.

    Obergfell received DRGM 108469, a utility (or improvement) patent for the gong rod in December, 1898. Hence, a gong rod assembly in a German clock implies that it was made in 1899 or later.

    However, a DRGM also implies that a DRP (the actual design patent) was granted to someone prior to 1898.

    So, it is possible that one day we will discover a German clock with a gong rod and the clock and gong rod were made prior to 1898. I am not suggesting that this is the clock at hand.

    With respect to the clock at hand. I see two holes in the backboard above the gong block. Is it possible that either the movement or gong assembly is not original to the clock? If yes, then this might explain the discrepency in John Hubby's GB date chart and the use of a rod gong.

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  29. Tatyana

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    Tinker Tim, your clock has a lot to do with these Post Your Gustav Becker Clocks Here
     
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    This spring-driven time and strike Gustav Becker has a serial number 218496 which if I am understanding John Hubby's work correctly places it in 1899. A fun one for me to work on, it was pretty beat up and I don't think it had run in a very long time.
    Don

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  31. Tinker Tim

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    Tatyana: Yes, thank you! The Sonnerie clock posted by Frank Hardin does look so much like mine, as far as the mechanism and gong rods go. My clock is definitely trying to mark the quarter hours in the Grand Sonnerie manner.
    Funny that Frank's serial number has a 'z' preceding it and has one additional digit (z 341031 vs. 16560). This would place them 15 years apart based on John Hubby's list, if I'm reading right. I agree with KurtinSA that the serial number of 16560 would match the year 1889 per the list, but your point regarding gong rods starting in 1898 implies mine is following some alternate numbering system. Thanks for your thoughts.
    new2clocks: Good info, thanks. Doesn't seem likely, but I wonder if they could possibly have used gong rods in Bohemia earlier than in Germany.
     
  32. Maggie180987

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    Gustav Becker made in factory in Freiburg
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    I got it from my dad after he passed away so its very sentimental value. Not sure what it's worth. I seen many Gustav Becker watches but this one is just beautiful.

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  33. KurtinSA

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    Welcome to the message board, Maggie! Very nice GB...not typical of the bigger wall clocks. The serial number dates it to 1894. As for worth, we're not allowed to discuss that on the forum...there's a separate part of the forum where that is done. But I'm sure sentiment far outweighs the value at this point!

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    It's not a wall clock, this one got base with legs. I did roughly estimated date to 1895 so thank you very much to let me know exact date! I will post more pictures. Museum in Warsaw was interested about 15 years ago to rent this clock from my family but for some reason my dad didnt agreed. He was saying that this clock belonged to someone really important in Germany and then was gifted to someone famous in Poland before my family bought it. Now when my dad passed away I regret of not listening to his stories more carefully but I was just a teenager by then. I would love to find out a history of this clock.

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  35. KurtinSA

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    Very nice details on the clock! :coolsign:

    Kurt
     
  36. Col. D. John Mustard

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    New Member here, also new collector! I've passed on many clocks, receiving advice from a local collector not to become an "accumulator"! However, I couldn't pass on this Gustav Becker. It was filthy. I carefully cleaned the case inside and out and was amazed at the beautiful striped veneer that was revealed! It appears to be complete in every way.

    Two questions: 1) It is missing the metal pin that holds the hands on and possibly also a brass disk I see on other Gustav Becker clocks. Where can I obtain these items? I'm reluctant to run it past a test phase without them. And 2) By discovering a gap in the glass frame on the sides it became evident that the case was slightly warped, I imagine from being leaned up against a wall for some time? Not much - it doesn't interfere with the pendulum. Is there anything I should do to attempt correcting it? Thank you.

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    Hello,
    I found this label on the back of the GB wall clock case. Maybe it would be interesting for the records :)
    Regards
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