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  1. KurtinSA

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    sunand -

    Just have to keep your eyes open on ebay, etc. Or you can put a "request for parts" in the thread above.

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  2. daveR

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    Having another look at the photos I posted last night, (it was late !) I realise that they are not as clear enough or enlarge as much as on my phone, so for completeness, the ser. No on this GB clock is 2136875. The name of the retailer shown on the dial in the first picture is Wm Sack, Horsham and Warraknabeal (I dont think that is the current spelling) and Silesia is shown under the 6
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  3. KurtinSA

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    The serial number dates the clock to early 1910.

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    There is an Australian seller on ebay that has re-pop guards and the BA threaded screws.
     
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    hello John, I have a question if he was a G.B model 499 with a black shield is now on Ebay greetings
     
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    is this a real gustav becker Skelton clock

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    was there such a shield in G.B Screenshot_2019-05-26-12-54-14.png
     
  10. KurtinSA

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    I don't recall reading about the pads for the numbers on the GB skeleton clocks being black. Mostly white or silver.

    Gustav Becker Skeleton Clocks

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    Just to keep the records up to date ! This is my latest Becker 400 day which just arrived. It has the Becker beat adjustment mechanism, roman numeral dial and the cast decoration under the dial. The pendulum has the same number as the movement and must have been made very near the end of Becker's original numbering before they started again. It does not have the spring guard at the back, and as must be pretty obvious, requires alot of work to clean up, but I will get there.
    The serial No is 2483364
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  13. KurtinSA

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    I've always liked the Roman numerals on the dial. The clock appears to be dated in the middle of 1924. In the middle of 1925, the numbering changed.

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    Thanks, Kurt for that date information, it helped correlate what I thought the date might be.
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    This is a "project clock" that someone has made from scratch. Virtually none of the parts are the same shape/design/quality of the original GB glass dome model No. 499 clocks made with the skeleton pendulum No. 17 and flat silvered dial, which were only from the fourth batch of about 300 clocks made near the end of 1911, not to mention the lack of GB logos and a serial number.
     
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    This is the only clock in the first batch of GB skeletons that were made at the beginning of 1910 that has been documented with the black painted dial cartouches, also the only one with a black painted or ebonized base. On close examination of recent photos of this clock found on eBay, it is my opinion the black has been added to the original silvered dial. Well done, but nonetheless not original. Further, it is my opinion the base was colored to match the black dial cartouches. Otherwise the clock appears to be original SN 2131547 including the disc pendulum.
     
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    David, thanks for posting. Kurt's dating info is correct and this is a very good example of the clocks being made at that time. The decoration under the dial is correct, this is the model "C" noted in Appendix 87 in the Repair Guide, this design was used from 1923 until 1932 when the Freiburg factory was closed and all GB 400-Day clock production stopped.
     
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    Hello John,
    I always appreciate your comments and that you take the time to give us all information on each clock put up, however seemkngly run of the mill they may seem now. No doubt that in the future they will all be special and "rare" however that is applied andthis informaton wil be invaluable.
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    John,
    I recently bought an identical clock like the one Gintaras posted. It is a rectangular dial sl no.2249670 (same on pendulum). Mine is missing the hour hand. I am posting pictures of the minute hand with its intricate filigree work. It's beautiful. If Gintaras can send me detailed pictures of the hour hand I'll get them made by my jeweller in India. Maybe I can get the minute hand made for Gintaras, once mine is done. The bottom plate (made of tin with brass plating) was completed rusted, so the clock is disassembled. Once complete, I shall post the pictures. If Gintaras can send me the hour hand pics by email to sunandk2004@gmail.com, I'll be glad
    Thanks Sunand

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    #570 gintarasb64, Aug 16, 2019
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    Dear Sunand,
    Unfortunatelly I do not have the hour hand of this clock. I passed it to clock collector from Poland - he also has the same clock with missing hour hand. I
    will contact him, maybe he will help with the pictures. Regards
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    Thanks Gintaras, please do, eagerly awaiting the `hour hand' pics. Mabbe many others will benefit.
    Looking forward to your feed on this.
    Thanks & great day
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    Here are two more Beckers for the record. 1925 I think.

    Number 372:
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    and number 955:
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    Can you ever have too many of these?
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  23. KurtinSA

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    Uh, no!! According to John's notes, one is 1925, the other is likely 1926.

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  24. Dells

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    Not sure what to buy
    I have posted pictures of one clock on wrong thread hope it will get moved but this one is for sale as well, see pictures shame I can’t but both .
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    could someone help me with dating this number is 19-5838 can’t see what the third number is.
    Thanks in advance Dell
     
  25. sunand

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    Your third digit seems to be `4' (zoomed in to get it). If that is it, the sl no should be 1945838, which should date to end 1906,as per John's database. Your clock is missing the suspension guard (and the stanchions). Nice condition for a clock that old
     
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    Thanks suband
    Yes I could see the torsion spring guard is missing but what is the stanchions ?
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    They are the four pillars on which the suspension guard is screwed on. You see the pair of holes at the top and bottom? thats where they fit.

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    Sorry I am a thick old man they are the 4 posts holding the spring guard yes !
    I was writing this as you posted.
     
  29. Dells

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    Well I have put a bid on this in the end.

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    #580 KurtinSA, Nov 10, 2019 at 6:32 AM
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    The 183xxxx GB seems to be missing the small brass decorative piece that would have screwed into the two holes below the dial. There were three styles...see poor B&W picture.

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  31. Dells

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    Thanks for that Kirt
    Am I correct in thinking that some of them didn’t have them from new but the holes were there ?
    I have seen repro ones but I don’t know what they are like,also what is the base made of, is it solid brass or plated ? Any idea of age.
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    Your clock is from early 1905. I have more than a handful of Beckers and all them have the brass pieces where there is room for them. One of mine that is from July 1905 with the piece. The pieces appear to be thin stamped brass. I have another Becker from a couple of years before this that doesn't have the brass piece but has a single hole in the middle at the bottom of the front plate and the serial number is stamped on the front plate. That's something that I haven't seen on other Beckers.

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    Thanks Kirt
    You posted a picture with a b and c did they differ according to year of manufacture or place of manufacture or what ?
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    Thanks Kurt
    So it looks like as I am in UK that it should be A or none.
    I haven’t won it yet so I will wait and see but thanks for the info.
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