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  1. Tinker Dwight

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    Most any stained glass shop should be able to
    put the glass back together.
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    How old might this clock be.

    Had the pleasre of repairing this clock today, question is it was brought many years ago,for quite a tidy sum,but on taking the movement out,found holes for a different movement, the friend had no knowlege of this, does the presant movement in any way represents the age of the case, I thought it might be a Lenzkirch, but after looking at images on goggle, couldnt find anything like it, I don't know much about the maker other than the details on the photograph, I wonder if it was a well thought out marridge.some of the finials are being turned by a friend of mine to complete the case,basiclly the clock was just out of beat, due to the fact that the screws supporting the hanging plate were almost ready to pull through the back of the case, the plate was hanging at an angle, that done I fitted tempory to screws at the bottom into the wall each side to stop it swingin when the door was opened, covering the heads in masking tape to stop any marking of the case, will get two side supports from M&P. The movement its self was quite clean, following a service three years ago, I did oil the movement, it came off very easily as it hangs on a plate with hooks in the four corners, I would love to find out who the case maker is.
     

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    Id' say last quarter of the 19thC BM.
     
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    Thank you Shimmy, going to email you, for a possible meet up at the Uxbridge clock fair on the 13 december.
     
  5. tarant

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    The movement was made in late 90', or even at the beginning of XX century, after the takeover of GR by Junghans.
    The case is probably earlier, made in Germany.
     
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    Hi Tarant, I found that you have spoken at length about this maker, Gebr Resch under Resch clocks, including other members, in trying to build up a history from manufacturer,during 2013 2014, could this clock be included in the Resch clock section, may be it can be moved over, I think it is earlier than 1890s, bare in mind the case had a previous movement, I think that movement was a single weight previously, the serial number on the clock movement is 20000 with a simbol of a clock hand then the following number 45921. On the paper in the photographs it has the history of the family that was making the movements for Resch I presume.glad I found the ansewer to my question. The lady who owns the clock gave me a date of 1874. Could be wrong, but will will never know what the previous movement was.
     
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    Christmas has a grip and every w/end until then is diaried BM, sorry. A fair would be a relief!
     
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    Binman, I'll move your thread to the Gebr. Resch thread. Thanks for posting your clock.
     
  9. jmclaugh

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    Can't help with who made the case but date wise it looks like the ever popular last quarter 19th C answer and it certainly appears the case at one time housed ano movement. Anyway it has a good quality movement in it now.

    I have read somewhere that Resch once they got past the serial # 100,000 they only put the final 4 digits of the number on the pendulum rod holder and bracket and other places with the movement numbered 100,000 etc with the full remaining serial number. e.g. the serial # of this clock is 245,921. Lenzkirch did something similar once they got past a million.
     
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    Thanks jm
     
  11. Marian

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    Hi,I have this clock serial number 51 266.


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  12. geo_gecko

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    Here's my first GR clock. Numbers on plates, pendulum and mount all match. Needed cleaning and very careful setup. Would stop running after a few hours until I polished the pallets and the strike is still slightly out of sync with the minute hand (~ 1 min late), but otherwise fine.
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  13. Heli

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    Could you specify the dimensions of the clock

    Regards. Mariusz
     
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    It's 107 cm tall and about 33 cm at its widest point. Thanks.
     
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    Thank you very much - we don't know how to qualify this clock correctly.
    Structurally they were very much alike.
    It's not quite miniature, nor standard (probably).
    Can you give us the length of the pendulum and dial dimension?
     
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    Marius

    Dial is 15.5 cm and pendulum is approx. 46 cm. Hope this helps. Does the case (especially the crown) look original? The back has no extra mounting holes, so it doesn't appear to be a marriage, but from Ebay you never know.
     
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    Thanks.
    I think it's a miniature with enlarged dial (normal size is 130 mm) or a dwarf. Dimension of the plate is crucial. If it's 102 x 95 (-> 97) mm, it's a dwarf
     
  18. Peixian

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    Although i never collect the clock, your pics are very attractive.thanks for posting
     
  19. tarant

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    Sad news. The main building of the GR factory was destroed, probably in this 2016 year!!! Barbarians are everywhere!!!

    Look. Arthur Junghans Uhrenfabrik in 1907. Solvay Sodafabrik on the rear plane (salt heaps):
    Resch, Gebr. 1907.jpg

    Solvay chemistry factory, about 2014/15. In the front preserved main GR factory building.
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    Sattelite map google. Building is still there (Offenseeweg 13):
    FireShot Screen Capture #218 - 'Mapy satelitarne' - www_mapy-satelitarne_pl.jpg

    Most actual maps from Bing and MapQuest. 2016. Building from the year 1870-71 destroyed, new hipemarket on this place.
    FireShot Screen Capture #219 - 'Mapy satelitarne' - www_mapy-satelitarne_pl.jpg

    Horror and shame for Ebensee :(
     
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    I recently purchased a Resch Vienna in need of repair. Serial number on movement and mount match.

    Any estimate as to approximate age?


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    Thanks!

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    I think that this will be the period of 1872-1875
    Mounted in Vienna.


    Regards Mariusz.
     
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    Thanks, Mariusz. I'm still working on the clock and will post complete pictures when finished.

    Jim
     
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    Traded for this clock today 52" long all serial number match on movement and pendulum and mounting plate wondering age and the silver weight and pendulum and ring around dial any info please?Also no extra holes in the case .
     

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    It is sad news, one would have hoped by now such new developments would manage to preserve historical buildings.
     
  25. tarant

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    This is one of the highest numbered movements from Ebensee (in our database the last is 277501). Production of the movements with Remember logo was probably ended after July 1901. Probably, because we know, that Junghans continued using trademarks od Lenzkirch and Gustav Becker after buying these companies. We don't know if that happened with Resch.
     
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    The movement was produced in the end of "Resch" Ebensee 1908-1910 (?)... I think
    The case seems to be from earlier.
    Maybe it lay in store ... about 20 years.
    Crown secondary, well below the production quality Resch.

    Regards Mariusz.
     
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    Re. crown, if what you say is correct what would the crown have looked like.

    Ron
     
  28. Heli

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    It should look more or less like that.
    Regards Mariusz.
     

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    Hi!I send pictures of my Vienna Regulator Gerbruder Resch.8 days movement.Lenght case 47".Low SN 11xxx.So far,the only know specimen.Additinal equipment for motion-hand.I have question.Did you see something?Thank your for information and insights.Regards Marián.
     

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    Greetings, ladies and gentlemen!

    Thanks to Mr. Piotr ( 'tarant'), I have discovered that an old clock on the wall that nobody cared about, was not Gustav Becker from 1872., but in fact "Gebruder Resch" from 1888.
    And it's working like a charm !

    Now I am really interested to learn more about it !

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    You have one of the less than twenty cataloged Resch spring clocks in the world.
    I think it was produced a bit earlier - 1883/1884 (?)
     
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    Thank you very much for your reply. Production year is unclear, so it was estimated by serial number (which doesn't seem to be good indicator of production year, either...as records vary from one source to another).

    I was told that Remember Co spring mechanisms were very rare, but their current value doesn't really reflect this uniqueness, as they were not considered very valuable.

    I actually got an offer for it at 140eur, with buyer explaining that he would need to invest 30 eur in new spring gong and 50 eur in full service and then clock would be able to achieve its top value of 220-250 eur.
    I was quite surprised with this, as I seem to recall having seen one similar wall clock achieving 3-4 times as much on the auction.

    I have also learned that it's mostly two-weights and three-weights that are highly sought-after, going for 800-1500 eur for clocks in excellent condition.

    So, in your opinion, what would you do in my position? Any suggestion is welcome :)
     
  33. tarant

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    Don't sell this clock :) They are of the same quality as weight driven. This is the first GR ad, from November 1888, where spring driven clocks are in offer.
    ReschfederzugOOUZnov1888.jpg
     
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    One of less than twenty cataloged Resch clocks in the world for 250 €
    Interesting :D
    Sorry, but I do not specify the price of clocks.
    The clock costs as much, as anyone wants to pay for it.
     
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    :) Even worse - they were trying to bid me down, due to issues it has (broken spring gong, needing a service).
    Last guy said that because there are few holes in the wooden case ( probably from a wormwood), he wouldn't pay more than 130eur...

    Unfortunately, market for these watches here in Serbia is very small and even top-notchm significantly more popular Gustav Beker with weights go for 240-250 EUR nowadays (2-3 years ago they sold occassionaly for 350-450eur)
    I know an ethusiast who has at least 20 of them at this moment for sale and few other in his personal collection.

    So, thank you very much for your input! :) I really appreciate all the info.
    Now I really do know enough to appreciate this old wall clock. In any case, my wife said it' had very soothing, almost therapeutic sound:)

    Regarding its value, I do agree with you, mr Heli. As my late professor of "stockmarket 101" course always said, real price of some item is the one seller would be willing to pay if he was a buyer, and buyer would be willing to sell for, if he was selling it.

    So, for the moment, I'll try to get it serviced, gong replaced and then enjoy it few more years, unless some really great "offer I can't refuse" comes along.

    In any case, I also have one rather rare and historically significant 1969. Omega wrist watch, to satisfy my need to learn more about this nice mechanisms :)
     
  36. wow

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    Picked up this nice Vienna today. Complete except for weights. Don't know maker. Shined up logo and photoed. Any help appreciated.
     
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    Gebrueder Resch is the maker, I believe the Rech brothers started around 1861 or so.... Nice clock

    Tim
     
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    Will, you have a Gebrüder Resch, and quite a nice one at that. Someone else should be able to provide a close estimate when it was made based on the serial number 205017, I don't have that info.
     
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    Circa 1895.
     
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    Thanks, gentlemen.
    The numbers behind the gong are:

    2000000
    5017

    Does that mean anything?
     
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    Serial number is 205017.

    Jim
     
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    Will, I looked at your photos under high magnification and the top number only has six digits, i.e. 200000, not 2 million. As I originally posted and Jim has confirmed that means the serial number is 205017, obtained by adding the 200000 to 5017.. Gebrüder Resch first used this "convention" starting at clock number 100001, stamping 100000 above the rest of the serial number. I don't know how high they went with this, someone who follows Resch clocks should be able to discuss the serial numbering of their clocks.
     
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    Piotr, do you have a catalog or list of dates for Resch? Do you have any other info besides the date. BTW, thanks for the date.
    Will
     
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    I've never seen catalog published by GR. Some GR clocks you may see in Florence Kroeber catalogs. I have access to the database of GR clocks with estimated production date, which is not intended for publication so far. First and last years ofclocks production by Resh family are still not completely explained. We don't know when the last clock with Remember logo left Ebensee factory after taking over by Junghans (July 1901).
     
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    Thanks, tarant.
     
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    With Will's agreement, I have merged his thread into the permanent Gebr. Resch thread.
     
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    Here are more photos of movement after cleaning and re assembling. Looks a little better.
     
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    Rabbit asked me to post a photo of the intermediate wheels. I also posted one of the clock on the wall after finishing movement work. Running great.
     
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    Resch 2 Weight

    These pictures are of my 2-weight Resch clocks.

    Edit: Moderator: Please move this post to the appropriate thread.
     

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    This are my Resch single weight timepieces, both minis. They have an interior case height of 22.5" compared to the 29"-30" height of a standard case. The last picture shows one of the minis next to a Resch 2 weight.
     
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