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Yahagi

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Hi...

Hmmm ... I don't know much about these types of mechanisms, but I think it's not Carl Werner, but Lorenz Furtwangler (LFS).

Carl Werner did not seem to produce weighting mechanisms, and then, while chainsaws were in vogue, Carl Werner was no longer on the market (1913). Perhaps you are looking for photos and information for the wrong manufacturer.
An example LFS (spring) mechanism looked like this. Compare the characteristic details.
I am curious about the opinions of others.
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bruce linde

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would it be possible to see photos of the verge and the escape wheel?
 

Feather

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...Recently I bought a magnificent movement on eBay and by consulting this forum I learned that it is made by Carl Werner. It is a weight driven movement with a second hand and I am assuming it is a 39-inch pendulum.
Any information would be appreciated...
I agree with Yahagi, movement looks like produced by LFS. I am curious why the logo was drilled out? Additional photos of your clock will be appreciated.
Here is the very similar looking movement with the seconds hand shaft (although the seconds hand was not installed on this clock), and with some additional mechanics that supported bell striking. This is cord driven movement that was installed in GF housing.
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JTD

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by consulting this forum I learned that it is made by Carl Werner. It is a weight driven movement
Welcome to the board.

How did you determine that this is a Carl Werner movement? As others have already said, I don't think this is a Werner movement and agree with previous post that this is likely LFS.

JTD
 

Louis St-Denis

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Je suis d'accord avec Yahagi, le mouvement semble être produit par LFS. Je suis curieux de savoir pourquoi le logo a été percé? Des photos supplémentaires de votre horloge seront appréciées.
Voici le mouvement d'apparence très similaire avec l'axe de l'aiguille des secondes (bien que l'aiguille des secondes n'était pas installée sur cette horloge) et avec quelques mécanismes supplémentaires qui ont pris en charge la sonnerie. [ATTACHER=complet]661630[/ATTACHER][ATTACHER]661631[/ATTACHER][ATTACHER]661632[/ATTACHER] [ATTACHER]661633[/ATTACHER]
 

Louis St-Denis

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Thank you very much for responding so quickly. As requested, I attach a photo of the escape wheel

I knew I would find the answers to my questions.
Thanks to your answers, I do believe that this is a Lorenz Furtwangler (LFS) movement.
To identify the movement, I was inspired by the only information I had is the description that Tatyana entered on the post https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/carl-werner-date-of-manufacture.147888/

Some circled locations on the picture are found on my movement. So I deduced that it would have been built by Carl Werner ........ and I was wrong.
As requested I forward some photos of the movement ...

As requested, I forward some photos of the movement ...

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Louis St-Denis

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Thank you Feather for sharing your knowledge. I know this is the wrong place for L.F.S. and I don't know where to refer. Can you dating this 183 LFS movement. Thanks
 

ferkor

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Hi everibody: I am Fernando, from Argentina.

I have an old family watch in perfect conditions. It has a label "Relojería Francesa" and the street and numer of a shop that doesen´t exist anymore.
I was wondering how old is this clock, and it origin.

What thoes it RA mean? I thought it was Republica Argentina But now I am not sure.

I wouls appreciate you help to know the nbrand and age of my clock

yours
Fernando







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Steven Thornberry

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What thoes it RA mean? I thought it was Republica Argentina But now I am not sure.

I wouls appreciate you help to know the nbrand and age of my clock
You don't say where the RA is located. If on the pendulum, it would mean Retard (slower) Avance (faster).

The logo on the movement indicates it was made by Carl Werner. More information might be forthcoming if we could see the whole clock.
 

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