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  1. musicguy

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    #1 musicguy, Jan 15, 2020
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    There isn't a consolidated thread on this forum for just "American Made
    Chronographs ". Most of these Chronographs are 7 jewels but there are higher jeweled ones
    including a 10j and The New England Watch Co.model in 17j.
    There are also the Dan Patch Chronographs made by NYS and NEWC as well
    and other chronograph makers as well.

    Please also share yours as well in this thread. Thanks

    I will start with my most recent purchase.
    This is a 1st Model Open Face 7 jewel 18 size New York Standard Chronograph(and pocket watch)
    with enamel dial with Roman Numerals and lever set. I believe it's
    circa 1905-1908(someone can correct me if I'm wrong).
    I liked this particular one because this one has Roman numerals(plus it's 18s)
    and most that I've seen have arabic numerals.
    I picked this one up for a best offer of $100.00(with free shipping)

    It works perfectly and keeps great time.

    First press of the crown starts the sweep second hand, Second press
    of the crown stops it, third press brings the sweep hand back to 12.

    (click on images to enlarge)
    NYS8.jpg NYS4.jpg
    NYS2.jpg NYS1.jpg

    It says in their advertisements

    "This New York Standard Chronograph is the
    only one made in America and the only one
    fully guaranteed. For sale by all jewelers"

    "For Laboratorial work, experimental work,
    photographic purposes, electric and telephone
    usage. For refiners and compounders of oils, etc.
    For physicians, surgeons, and Nurses, and for the exact timing
    of all events."

    "The only Scientific watch" made in America the
    New York Standard "Chronograph" - New York standard
    watch Co., 401 Communipaw Ave., Jersey City"


    The New York Standard watch company was first incorporated in 1885 and operated in
    Jersey City, New Jersey. They were primarily a producer of lower grade watches that sold
    under various brand and model names.


    Advertisement from Scientific American 1907 and movement images
    supplied by member Dave T
    NY Standard chrono (2).png NY Standard 18s 165 2 (2).jpg

    NY Standard 18s 165 1 (1).jpg NYSmmm.png

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    Here is my Waltham 1884, 13 jewel hunter movement in an open face case. the movement was made about 1887. it is in a Crescent case that appears to be original to the movement. At one time I had a NYS chronograph but sold it at a mart about 5 years ago.

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    richiec, beautiful movement on that one!


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    Since Rob posted his 18s New York Standard, I thought I would post my 16s New York Standard. I purchased mine as a non-runner simply to have to dismantle and study. I quickly realized it was actually in great shape, just very dirty. After a COA it works great.

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    I did not know who the previous owner (and probably the original owner) was until I received the watch as the seller did not have any case pictures in the listing.

    An internet search turned up some interesting history about the engraving on the case rear. Read about where this watch was used on the Wyoming State Historical Society site (Boom, Bust and After: Life in the Salt Creek Oil Field | WyoHistory.org).

    I wonder if this is the only NYS chronograph they had or one of several and what they used it for.

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  5. gmorse

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    Hi Rob,

    This looks like an oscillating pinion type, first patented by Eduard Heuer in 1887, but not clear whether this patent is acknowledged.

    Regards,

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    Thanks Graham,

    I didn't look to see if I could find it yet(it's on my to do list) but the
    18s NYS above has a patent date on the movement of Mar 22 1904.
    I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the Eduard Heuer one you reference,
    maybe someone can find it before I do.



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    Hi Rob,

    Something wrong with your attachments. I'm having trouble with attachments too, getting error messages regarding permissions, and then when I try to delete them, they aren't there. Has something come unplugged?

    The Heuer oscillating pinion was the subject of a US patent #377896, dated February 14th 1888.
    (This would have been an image of said patent).
    EDIT: Ah, now it's worked!

    Regards,

    Graham

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    #8 musicguy, Jan 16, 2020
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    Second try(deleted post above I couldn't get images to function)

    Here is the later patent used on some 16s NYS chronograps
    G. Nutting Watch Movement Patented Dec 22 1908 #907,170

    NYSpat.png NYSpat2.png

    NYSpat3.png NYSpat5.png

    nyspat4.png

    EDIT: An example of the Watch Movement Patented Dec 22 1908 posted here
    by Jim H. and I believe luvsthetick example above to(even though his is not marked)

    The Story of the Dan Patch Watches


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  9. gmorse

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    Hi Rob,

    The Nutting patent certainly includes an oscillating pinion, presumably it was sufficiently different for it not to clash with Heuer's earlier #377896.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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