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Portland, Oregon: Chapter 31 (Officially "Pacific Northwest")

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1. As we start the New Year and decade, thought it might be handy to start posting here for those looking for Chapters near them that we are in the Portland area.
2. Like any other thread on this NAWCC site, you can reply to it, post questions, etc. You may not get a reply for a couple of days, or a week or so, you have been forewarned if you are expecting an instantaneous response.
3. For more information on our Chapter, may I direct you to our Chapter 31 website, nawcc31.org.
4. I want to keep track of the "lookies" (views) we get, so I'll post the numbers monthly or so, just so we, and any other Chapter, can get an idea of how many times people have clicked on this thread out of curiosity (or by mistake), is there a pattern throughout the year, that sort of stuff.
So, to start off, here is the first post of the year I sent out to the Chapter about our January meeting...a real dud, we won't have one, but in February we'll have a Champ!
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No January meeting due to facility availability, time, and ill-spent efforts on the part of your's truly.
For those that want to look for horological items to take the place of the meeting, if I had the time I would zip to Springfield, Oregon and walk through the doors of Old Passions, liquidating a clock inventory, oldpassions.com.
Next month we do have a roof over our heads at the Main Beaverton Library, the program is not to be missed: Bob Holmstrom will tell us about the "Before " and "After" tours he took that sandwiched the Ward Francillon Time Symposium 2019 that he attended in Nuremburg, Germany. To get the book that had all the presentations in print, and in English, here you go: Item Detail - Ward Francillon Time Symposium 2019

Item Detail - Ward Francillon Time Symposium 2019
$65 + shipping for online and orders by phone: In September 2019, the Deutsche Gesellschaft fur Chronometrie and the National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors, Inc. jointly held an international symposium in Nuremberg, Germany. This event, “Time – Made in Germany: 700 Years of German Horology,” was the NAWCC’s 2019 Ward Francillon Time Symposium and also the first such ...etc., etc.
net.nawcc.org

The book was also published in German for those so inclined, it is only lack of time that keeps me from finding and posting a source for it. (If you find it, I'll post it for all.)
So...everybody stay warm, dry, and well-fed, we'll meet up February 16th in the Beaverton Main Library for a presentation not to be missed!

Robert Gordon
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Clocks In The Grove

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Thank you Robert G. for posting here. I think it is a good thing and hope you do this every month. Oldpassions looks like it would be a very interesting place to visit.
..Bob..
 

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NAWCC Chapter 31 February 2020 meeting.
Sunday, February 16th, 2-4pm. (We have the room starting at 1pm, some show up that early.)
Beaverton Main Library 12375 SW 5th Street Beaverton, OR 97005. (Intersection with Hall Boulevard.)
Meeting Room B.
Mart until 2:30, then a Premier Presentation by Bob Holmstrom.

Presentation: Bob Holmstrom – Tours of various horological locations before and after he attended the Ward Francillon Time Symposium in Nuremberg, Germany, last September. Come see where he went, you won’t need a Passport, visa, or airline ticket, but you will need to fasten your seatbelt on the drive to the Library.
Bob is also the President of NAWCC Chapter 161, Horological Science, and thus publisher of Horological Science Newsletter. You would do well to peruse the website for his Chapter: www.hsn161.com, maybe even subscribe to it, hint, hint…
And another shameless plug for the book containing the Symposium presentations: Item Detail - Ward Francillon Time Symposium 2019

March 7, AWCI Build a watch: Build a Watch – Portland, OR. This will be in Portland, they have seats available. At the end of the day you walk out with a watch you assembled and cased. I did this in 2018 at the NAWCC watch school facility just days before the NAWCC 75th Anniversary hootenanny in Pennsylvania.
Elections- We are supposed to have some, I have to confess I haven’t looked at the schedule and procedures. We need a Vice President, and someone to replace me. If you think all a President does is loll about and ingest chocolates from places that have a fine watchmaking tradition (Switzerland, Pennsylvania...), I sure wouldn’t want to disappoint you.

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Nice to see the so many out to the Chapter 31 meeting yesterday. Not only were there ladies out but also a young girl. Hope she becomes a member some day.
..Bob..
 
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Robert Gordon

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Chapter Members and others,

The decision has been made to cancel the March meeting that was scheduled for this Sunday, the 15th.
With the known, and unknown, hazards of COVID-19 (coronavirus), we’ll err on the side of caution.
I received word today that this same concern has caused the cancellation of this May’s Regional up in Bremerton, Washington. National will be sending out an e-blast that will have more content on that.
For some good news, for those that missed last year’s Christine Griffen presentation on the custom Herschede electric clock that used to reside in the Kansas City Power and Light building, read about it in the latest March/April 2020 issue of the Watch & Clock Bulletin, page 113…with an added twist on serial numbers! The well may seem to run dry in this pursuit, but something new that has been hidden for years always seems to pop up.
Wishing you all a chance for a discovery like hers, and best wishes for your health and safety in the midst of this illness outbreak. Stay warm, stay dry, stay well-fed.
Robert Gordon
NAWCC Chapter 31 President


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Thank you for the updates, Robert. In addition to the May Regional email blast that you mentioned, it may also be helpful if someone could post a new thread in this section to alert those who may have opted out of the NAWCC email communications.

Pat
 

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Thank you for the Regional cancellation notice.
Many of us do not get the e mail blast.
 

Robert Gordon

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No April meeting, Sunday the 19th. No telling how long this social distancing/stay at home recommendation will keep our regular haunts locked up and unavailable for us. If there is any plus side to this, we are looking into some of the various on-line meeting services so we can get together, at a distance at least, and see familiar faces and hear about the latest acquisitions and projects in real time. Well, within a maddening half-second delay of real time (Zoom, Lifesize), or, if you know of a service without that delay, I’m all ears.
Will be a good way for those with travel issues or compromised health to keep up with the latest from us, and later as we do go back to physical meetings, we might be able to continue the practice from the meeting place. (“We”…someone else other than Yours Truly, I had a fight to get onto the program today, lengthy modem warm-up, and I had to get some distance coaching to be able to get my microphone and camera to cooperate. The need for precise, step-by-step instructions raises its head, and will the step-by-step instructions be the same for all the different operating systems/screens/displays…Oh, my head hurts already.)
In the Message Board there is a new thread started about these conferencing applications, will be scanning it for other ideas along with Zoom and Lifesize. (Live on-line meetings, in the “Message Board Help And Notices”, under the “Message Board Help and Announcements” heading.)


-Now for a shameless plug for a thread on the NAWCC website under “Message Board”, in the Watches Forum (American Pocket Watches), National American Railroad Pocket Watch Day April 18th, started by musicguy, on March 26, 2020: it is for those that like Standard watches (Railroad Time Service Approved), this is the day we can use to honor the memory of the lives lost in the Great Kipton, Ohio, Train Wreck of April 18, 1891. This wreck, and the ensuing investigation, brought about the Standardization of certain watch features that were deemed necessary for accurate, dependable, robust, and trouble-free watch operation for Railroad use. And, speaking of train wrecks: posting this so late that you can’t be out and about wearing your Standard watch in commemoration…
But, on a positive note, the same thread contains the information that we should also recognize November 18th for being the date that Standard Time was adopted, eliminating the labyrinthine web of “local” time zones that existed ‘til that day. So, you now have about 7 months to get preparations ready for bell-ringing and horn blowing on noon, November 18th, Toot-toot! A tip of the hat to musicguy and those posting on that thread.

Robert Gordon
NAWCC Chapter 31 President

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Thanks for the plug for national pocket watch days. I thought your chapter was mostly clocks?
Thank you for the updates.
George
 

Robert Gordon

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This Chapter notice will likely be received and read the day that we normally have a scheduled monthly meeting, May 17th. We will not have a meeting in this month of May.

I would like to work toward having a meeting in June via the internet. This would be a method to bypass any still-in-effect closures/availability/number-of-attendee restrictions. Per bylaw as I read it, the Council members need to approve expenditures over $50, and it looks like Zoom for a year is approximately $150. The fly in the ointment is that members need to have input in these Council “meetings”, and how do we do that without meetings? If members could give me or the Council members some communication on this so we can slowly put one foot in front of the other and go forward on this, it would be great.

So how do you contact your Council members? Via the contact info on the Chapter website, of course. And I have to confess, Rod asked me to send updated contact info to him for posting, which I haven’t done. (Sorry, Rod, and Council, and Chapter members.) Need to post this, or it will be delayed another day… or most likely longer. From me, some things on the internet sometimes just.don’t.get.done.

Robert Gordon
NAWCC Chapter 31 President



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Robert, I recommend Zoom, we have had two chapter meetings so far on Zoom, many members don't have microphones or camera on their phones or computers, but it does keep those who do in touch with each other.
 

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Has anyone tried Google Meet? I noticed that it's now available, but haven't talked to anyone who has used it.
 

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I have used both but have not managed the meeting.

Zoom does not charge for small groups with meetings under 40 minutes and they may give you longer if their traffic is low.

If the NAWCC is moving more toward the Internet, it may be worthwhile to have a service that supports constant availability and large numbers of view only attendees. If anyone wants to report on their experience with on-line meetings I would like to hear more.
 

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Chapter Members and Guests,

We are going to use old and new technology for a scheduled Zoom meeting, Sunday, June 21:

Old technology - You can call in on the phone that is wired to your wall to hear and talk to all.
New technology - High frequency radio waves (George K.: or are they ultra-high frequency?), satellites, fiber-optic cables...sounds like the stuff of spies and Dick Tracy, eh?

Treasurer Mr. Noall has been working with this for Godfather's on Saturday mornings, works pretty good! The one caveat for Sunday's meeting is that it is Father's Day, he may be enjoying family, so if I try this, it may be something akin to Amateur Hour. I'll be the clown, show up for laughs and see if I trip and flounder. (Well, that will be a given, how much and more often than usual will be determined.)

This meeting doesn't have a scheduled "End" time, so if you are involved with family for a while, try tuning in at 3, we may still be on and chatting up a storm.

I noticed in the latest issue of the Mart and Highlights that Chapter 71 (Sacramento Valley) has a new member, the lad looks to be about 6, a good, early start on this journey. We need to see more of that age! Also noticed the names of Mr. Ballenger, Mr. Schug, and Mr. Yee as having solved the Crytogram, it would be unusual for their names not to appear on the list.

Hope to see you on the screen, or hear you over the phone, on Sunday.

(Dues, dues - Are you up to date?)

Robert Gordon
NAWCC Chapter 31 President

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Robert Gordon

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Our first Chapter Zoom meeting in June was a roaring success! (Definition of "roaring success": When you realize the meeting is scheduled for Father's Day, but 12 people still show up for the Zoom meeting!) It isn't the same as having a physical meeting with a Mart, snacks, and coffee, but it is a good way to see faces and hear news of what others are doing, get questions answered in real time, etc. Full disclosure: Some of us have been using Zoom for Saturday morning meet-ups for a while, so we were able to get a feel for this ahead of the full Chapter's "Showtime!". This group normally meets for an early (5-8am ±) breakfast on Saturdays, but the current COVID-19 situation has put those breakfasts on hold.

Our July meeting will be on Zoom as well, 2pm, Sunday, July 19.
WHAT: Computer assisted design for watches - Underlying theme: Obsessed with watch design.
WHO: Our own ever-inquisitive Henry Casson.
Henry will take us on a journey over multiple paths to find solutions to vexing situations he has found when subjecting design to the rigors of computing.

Robert Gordon
NAWCC Chapter 31 President

Views: Jan:78, Feb:106, Mar:108, Apr:95, May:133, June: Forgot to look on July 1 for numbers, will look on August 1.
 

Robert Gordon

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NAWCC Chapter 31 August Presentation AND Council meeting.

WHEN: 2pm Sunday, August 16, 2020.
WHERE: Internet Zoom meeting.
WHAT: Bob Holmstrom - Harrison Decoded and Harrison's late wooden clocks.
AFTERWORDS: Council meeting for discussion of next year's Regional, and Budget for same. (Budget will be sent out separately from this e-mail.)

Views: Jan:78, Feb:106, Mar:108, Apr:95, May:133, June: Forgot to look on July 1 for numbers, will look on August 1. Care to guess who missed August 1?
 

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Members and other readers,
It will be our privilege to have a presentation by Dave Sandage, Astronomer. When I mentioned his name as to this presentation a few weeks ago on one of Chapter 135's Zoom meetings, the question was asked "THE Dave Sandage?" That question might give you an idea of the elevated and lofty standards that the mere mention of his name brings to mind. Tune in to see the legend himself and his presentation, to wit:

The very first timekeepers used by humans were the apparent motions of the sun, moon, and stars through the sky. From simple shadow clocks to the calibration of precision pendulums, the sky has provided reliable and universal access to timekeeping. This talk will explore the history of astronomical timekeeping, some of the science behind the movements of the solar system, and finally a look at where astronomy fits into precision timekeeping today.

2pm is when Zoom opens the door for us on Sunday, we'll wait a few minutes for the stragglers, then Dave gets to do the honors. All of this mere days away from the Autumnal Equinox, the excitement builds! As well as the skies clearing of smoke, rain on the fires...it just doesn't get much better than this.
Robert Gordon
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October 18 Zoom meeting:
Mr. Stephen Nelson is known to most as having a very great affinity for Viennese clocks. So you may note something interesting about his mentor in the Theme for his presentation at this Sunday's meeting:

"A walk through my main bench, discussing the tools I use the most, why I like them, and what all is in the bench, which is pretty much the way it was when I got it from my mentor - one of the last Railroad Watch Inspectors. It was his main bench and is loaded with his tools. And a few of mine."

Steve's website is like a candy store: SNClocks.
 

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Our Chapter 31 program this Sunday, December 20th, is scheduled at an earlier time--1pm. Andrew Dervan is the presenter. He is speaking on Public Time Keeping: Evolution of sundials, water clocks and tower clocks. He is a member of a Michigan Chapter. Andrew has lectured at NAWCC National Conventions. He makes his numerous presentations available to individual chapters.
Hope all are doing well as we end what has been a very interesting year. Stay safe, warm, dry, and well-fed, with any luck we'll see you at the Regional at the Monarch next year!
Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Robert Gordon
 

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Good afternoon, Robert!

If you are willing, please either send me ( torr286@aol.com ) notices of your Zoom meetings or post them on the Message Board at:
We're trying to share these Zoom presentations with as many NAWCC members as we possibly can.

If you are looking for presenters for future meetings, you'll find a list here:

I've also attached the current list.

Thanks!

Best regards!

Tim Orr
 

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I sent an email to this chapter through their website about joining and have yet to hear a reply. I would really like to join. How long does it usually take to get a reply?

Thank you.
 

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I sent an email to this chapter through their website about joining and have yet to hear a reply. I would really like to join. How long does it usually take to get a reply?

Thank you.
You can start an online conversation with Robert Gordon by clicking on his avatar in the first post of this thread (or any post he made) and selecting start conversation.

I find that to be easier than email.
 

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