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That dial is magnificent. I'm glad you were able to find a case for it and let it live on.It appears that I have developed a fondness for Waltham's "Colonial Series" movements/watches. I say this because I find that I now have 19 examples. However, only six of these survived in their original cases, the majority being bought as movements. I am in a constant tug-of-war with the scrappers -- they melt the cases and I have to find new ones, usually from lesser movements.
I couldn't resist this recently orphaned 19-jewel Riverside movement ($10.38 on eBay from a scrapper). The silver dial with gold radial numerals and fancy hands alone were worth more than I paid. Fortunately I had an empty gold-filled case of appropriate vintage to put it in. Cleaned and oiled and keeping great time in my pocket. It is a great size to wear.
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The Colonial Series is a non-standard movement size and hard to case, which may be why there was so little competition. It is based on Waltham's regular 12-size movement but with a 14-size pillar plate and were always factory-cased in gold-filled or solid gold cases.
It is not just the shape that is appealing. As soon as I saw the acid-etched pattern I knew it was most likely a Wadsworth case. They made some of the nicest cases and were one of the best case companies.... an oddly shaped, 12s, 17j Dress Watch
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Nothing too unusual about this one-just another 936 markings variant for the collection.
Here’s a neat one-1889 Waltham Grade 35. View attachment 766115
Nice double sunk dial.
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Movement is nice looking, but not running-acts like it’s overbanked.
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Case is a J. Boss patent model. The movement is fitted with a dust ring and seats inside the movement holder ring. That is held in place by the retaining ring the screws in to the back of the case. Took the movement out to clean the dial and case-the case back would not completely screw in flush due to dirt in the threads. Soaked the case in warm water with denture cleaner. The dirt came right out, along with the remnants of the glue holding the plastic crystal in place. Case back screws in nicely now. Need to take it to my watchmaker to have the movement diagnosed and get a glass crystal installed. Paid $115 including shipping-case is probably worth that much.
1908 Crescent St. 16s 25178398 19j
I have had quite a bit of luck this and last year finding orphaned movements that were not only inexpensive, but also extremely accurate time keepers in great looking condition. Some came with dial and hands, but most were movement only, like 25178398. That being today's reality I also spend more time looking for additional spare cases as I use up what I've had on hand. Lately they have been nickel, as even mediocre gold filled cases are going for very high prices now, as they continue to be scrapped. Sometimes it's even cheaper to buy a broken watch in a good GF case and get the movement for "parts or repair".
I had the case on hand for awhile and finally used it for the 1908 Cresc. St. I thought the F may indicate it was made by Fahy's (I've not seen it before) but I didn't see any match to it from an online search of their different trade marks.
The plain case looks nice with little brassing, but the case back has cross-threading issues making putting it back on a bit (or sometimes VERY) tedious. Still, overall it presents well and can still keep the same accuracy it was originally designed for, and for a lot less than a Swiss Ball.
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ClintCongratulations, Vince! I recently had my newly acquired fishscale damaskeened bridge model, SN 9,503,666, cleaned and serviced, and my watchmaker discovered this very interesting engraving on the main wheel. I believe several of these movements are marked "21 jewels," but these were upjeweled to 23 jewel movements before leaving the factory. I assume Vince's example is similarly jeweled and marked to my own, but I don't know. Can you confirm, Vince? I'm wondering which other Waltham Model 1899 bridge movements, if any, had the same marking on their main wheels as these 20. Only the first run of Model 1899 bridge movements, including the 20 with fishscale damaskeening, had Church's patent starwheel regulators. The later runs all had whiplash regulators.
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Thanks, Appa69 for trying, I found that too, what I did not find was the information sent by StanJS, which is the answer to one of my questions when it arrives. StanJS thank you for posting this, I have copied your post. Since yesterday I have asked the seller to let me use his photographs. Here are a few. (Not arrived yet, 10.00Hrs here in Germany)Here's what the database has on that serial number.
Yeah I figured the case was wrong but although I collect I don’t necessarily take a huge issue with it being a wrong case. Now if presented with a mint case of the correct year I’d might swap it out but cases I’m finding are hard to come by never the less dateThe 1st watch was made in 1959 and the Model 15 Stainless Steel was 1st produced in 1950 and was used for several years .
The 2nd watch was made in 1952 and the Melamine dial is fine but it is in a Model 5 case made in 1928 before the 992B was produced.