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And to keep to the purpose of this thread, here's a watch I acquired from a favorite vendor at the Brimfield antique shows this month. My first Ball Commercial Standard. It's a 16S Ball/Waltham, 15 jewels 1903. Will be wearing it tomorrow.

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I pointed out it was very similar to my dial.
:)They may look somewhat similar (in that they are both Elgin dials), but his dial would not be
appropriate for your watch, and vice versa.:)

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This arrived in the mail today, pictures courtesy of Jones & Horan Auctions. Illinois 18S, comes back to Model 6 Bunn Special grade on Pocket Watch Database, but is private labeled on the movement for John C. Pierik & Co., a jeweler in Springfield IL. This watch is down graded from the Bunn Special as it is only adjusted to 5 positions and has composition rather than gold jewel settings. Damaskeening is also not Bunn Special. Lever set from c. 1908. There are faint extra screw marks so it's a recase, but very nice one (Dueber GF). Pierik was not only a Jeweler, but a real estate investor.

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Norman, Nice watch. I've owned a couple of John's PL movements. John Coirnelius Pierik worked for the Illinois Watch Co in 1880. Later he joined William Sommers, his Brother-in-Law, in a Jewelry business, seen as Sommer & Pierik. Sommers was the "son" of Gorfield B Sommers & Son an earlier company.
of the few I've seen only one had the proper PL dial.
 

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Norman, Nice watch. I've owned a couple of John's PL movements. John Coirnelius Pierik worked for the Illinois Watch Co in 1880. Later he joined William Sommers, his Brother-in-Law, in a Jewelry business, seen as Sommer & Pierik. Sommers was the "son" of Gorfield B Sommers & Son an earlier company.
of the few I've seen only one had the proper PL dial.
The Illinois Watch Co. seemed very willing to upgrade or downgrade according to clients wishes. The Springfield jewelers were well positioned to take advantage of this service.
 

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Norman, that is one of my favorite dials!
Great website you have Bliss Collection (blisschron.org)


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Thanks Rob, the website is a little out of date, however. I've got another Bliss chronometer, several chronometer watches, and couple of other navigational items to add. Someday.

I agree about the dial. Love it.

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Elgin 367 18s Father Time, #13890069 (1908)

I'm a big fan of Elgin's 18s 3/4 plate watches and always looking for any variation, grade, etc. to add to my collection and I purchased this one on auction last month for a good price.
A nice clean movement, and better yet, it still can keep time within the RR specs. it was designed for.
Extra screw marks on the case ring show it has housed three previous movements over time. Still the die engraved details are not terribly worn and little brassing has occurred.


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Here is a watch I mentioned on the watch chains thread, which belonged to Captain William Wesley Mosier of the Union First Tennessee Cavalry, Company G. The attached pdf tells the story of Captain Mosier, his watch, his unit, his background, and a little of his war career and battle honors. The dial of the watch has seen better days, but that is the way of things with Civil War provenance watches, especially if they have unique, irreplaceable dials.

This pdf was excerpted from a longer two-part presentation of my entire Civil War provenance watch collection, which is intended for persons who don't necessarily know that much about watches. So there are some elementary explanations in it that the folks here don't need but I hope will tolerate.
 

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A short digression from my mystery watch. Here is a genuine Rockford railroad watch. #267838 appears on the list of watches in RR service on the Burlington and Missouri River RR in 1890. It's owner is identified as Pat Mooney, an engineer. It is a hunting movement in an open face silveroid case that has no signs of having had another occupant. Engraved on the outside back is a name that looks like either P. J. Mooney or P. Mooney (with a large fancy "M"). A cool find for me.

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You know I'm jealous!

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Hamilton 21j, A5P, 992 #1739396 (1924), with the DS dial marked HAMILTON TIME-KING.

There are quite a few threads connected to a search of "Hamilton Time King" or just TIME KING on 974 and 992 dials.There are also a list of other named dials on Halligan's notes on the 974 which lists other name variations and the jewelers who ordered them. I try to keep a look out for these dials and this was the first I've purchased to add to my Hamilton collection.

Though not original, the J. Boss 14k GF OF SB&B Mainliner case is in excellent condition (with a firm bow) and suits the 992. The dial is in perfect condition as is the movement's rear which show no signs of any corrosion or even small micro-scratches on the train plates and balance bridge. All that being said, and in spite of it'd lovely condition, it's not a great timekeeper and will need to be sent out for service and probably a new MS.
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A recent addition more recently back from a gentle but thorough rehabilitation by my watch maker.
and let's see the movement too :)


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Last found in the mailbox …

Circa 1888 Aurora SN# 81163, Grade 8, Hunting, 15j, 18s, LS, Hurd regulator, tu-tone.

Per Greg Frauenhoff's Aurora research - Scarce flower and wheel pattern. Records show 81163 was finished on 3/24/88. No info on date sold, so probably sold after Oct. 1889.

Watchmaker's report - All of the jeweling is intact and original, and all the SNs match. The gilding is as bright as any that I've ever seen and even has its original mainspring barrel with a two-tone pattern on the cover. The 20-year Wadsworth Pilot case is in fantastic shape with very little wear and tight hinges, a sharp crown, a glass crystal, and initials on the shield and again on the cuvette. The case is almost certainly original, even though there are shadow marks next to the screws from the movement being rotated slightly since Day One; it's now aligned properly.

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Last found in the mailbox …

Circa 1888 Aurora SN# 81163, Grade 8, Hunting, 15j, 18s, LS, Hurd regulator, tu-tone.

Per Greg Frauenhoff's Aurora research - Scarce flower and wheel pattern. Records show 81163 was finished on 3/24/88. No info on date sold, so probably sold after Oct. 1889.

Watchmaker's report - All of the jeweling is intact and original, and all the SNs match. The gilding is as bright as any that I've ever seen and even has its original mainspring barrel with a two-tone pattern on the cover. The 20-year Wadsworth Pilot case is in fantastic shape with very little wear and tight hinges, a sharp crown, a glass crystal, and initials on the shield and again on the cuvette. The case is almost certainly original, even though there are shadow marks next to the screws from the movement being rotated slightly since Day One; it's now aligned properly.

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Fantastic piece! Congrats!
 
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Picture intensive post — just acquired this beautiful 0s Waltham RM, model 1891, in its presumed original Solidarity 14k case. Movement is amazingly pristine. Very happy with this purchase.
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Absolutely beautiful watch. I recently came across one of these and have been researching for the last three days, I'm still not sure what grade mine is. I keep coming up with seaside for grade. I was wondering if you had any tips on how to find out? 1891,0s,15j,keystone case 14k any information will help honestly.
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It's been brought to my attention that someone has asked me to split off a conversation
in this thread about an individual watch that was posted. Watches posted in this thread
are not easily searchable and similar models and grade watches are not posted next to examples posted here
to show other examples and create conversation. I really stress that if you have a watch you want to talk about, and see
other examples or get any real conversational feedback please DO NOT
POST IT IN THIS THREAD. Please start a new thread with your watch or add to an existing thread.

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Sorry I just want to add one more thing to my post above

Every time I see someone add a great interesting watch (or even a family watch or a new watch collector) to this thread
and it gets buried in a day or two (and lost forever in our searches) I say to myself what a shame.


EDIT If anyone just wants to find out about a watch that they are interested in start your own thread.
If you just want to show what you just bought and are not looking for conversation
by all means add it here. :) :) :) :) :)




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Hampden 16s, 21j, grade Wm. McKinley, model 5, #3113606 (1913)

This is only the 4th Hampden watch I've purchased over the years, wanting to have a McKinley for my small collection of movements engraved with the names of US presidents, adding it to my Illinois' 18, 16, 1nd 12 size Lincolns, and Hamilton's 924 Teddy Roosevelt. Most "named" movements I have consist of private labels, and those marked special, extra special, etc. I also have one 974 named after the Norse demigod Thor.

The McKinley was purchased as a movement only. including the dial and hands, for a modest price and in very good condition cosmetically, with a very feint HL at the outer of the dial edge at 10 seconds, which a cleaning in Polydent rendered nearly invisible. The watch runs a bit sluggish with the regulator nearly maxed and will need servicing and new mainspring. That being said it's only 3 seconds slow after running over 24 hours.
The watch was cased in a Brooklyn W.C.Co. "Windsor" 20 yr. gold case from my used spares that once held a 16s 1899 21j Crescent St. While the case looks good it's has cross threading issues making the bezel and back finicky to get on. I also had to remove about 1/4 inch of the dial lip on the case ring due to the different location of the Hampden's lever. Inspite of the case's issues, it's quite heavy with little brassing or wear, and looks quite good.

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Very cool image of individuals and their namesake watch movements!
 

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I would imagine that Edward Howard and Royal E. Robbins could be matched with watches bearing their names easily enough, and I'd be very surprised if there weren't a picture of B. W. Raymond around somewhere. But below is a perhaps more interesting case.

In April 1861, just as South Carolina shore batteries were firing on Fort Sumter in Charleston Bay, the American Watch Company introduced its new William Ellery Grade Model 1857 watch, which they advertised especially to soldiers. However, there is some uncertainty as to which "William Ellery" after which the watch grade was named. Inasmuch as one man was the grandson of the other, one could even argue that the watch was in some sense named after both men.

The more famous (today) of the two men was Senator William Ellery of Rhode Island, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. It is very possibly not just a coincidence that William Ellery was known to have had abolitionist sympathies. The DoI and its meaning was much on the popular mind at the time, as Lincoln and Douglas had debated the meaning of its most controversial claim that all men are created equal in a series of famous public debates in Illinois in 1858, a claim which was explicitly repudiated by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens in his infamous "Cornerstone Speech" on March 21, 1861. That AWCo management had strong patriotic, and very possibly also abolitionist sympathies is attested by Royal Robbins's promise to give any AWCo employees who volunteered to defend the Union their old jobs back at the same salary when they returned.

Now, it was in fact Aaron Dennison and not Robbins who named the William Ellery grade when Robbins was out of the country (in Europe, on his honeymoon, as I recall) and the suggestion has been made that Dennison actually had the senator's grandson, William Ellery Channing, who had been a popular preacher who had developed very pronounced abolitionist views in his late career, in mind when he named the Ellery grade. (Dennison was not a unitarian universalist, but he may still have been inspired by Channing's writings.) Points in favor of the idea that Dennison had Channing in mind when he named the Ellery grade are that Channing was more recent than the senator and his abolitionist sentiments were perhaps better known. I like the idea that the watch was in essence named after both men.

The William Ellery grade Model 1857 watch shown here likely was in the pocket of Lieutenant Colonel Elial Foote Carpenter, C.O. of the 112th NY Infantry, when he was mortally wounded fleeing from a Confederate ambush to warn his unit near Drewry's Bluff VA in October 1864. The watch came out of the estate of the late Ron Tunison, who sculpted the magnificent Friend-to-Friend Masonic Memorial in the National Cemetery Annex at Gettysburg, which is my current avatar.

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Some of you will know the story about this watch, it could have been my latest purchase. I bought it though in June, and it arrived in Germany in July, though it never got further than Frankfurt airport, and was sent back to Australia. Today I find it is now on its way back to Germany:rolleyes: I have put this photograph on here to show off the dial on this Columbus watch. S/N 21698.

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My latest addition is a South Bend, 574787, Grade 323, Model 2, 18s, 17j, The Studebaker, original case, SW/LS, Nickel Cross Hatched DMK Pattern, DS Dial, Mismatched hands, Crown has excess up/down movement, Had a Canadian market 13-24 hr. overpainted but removed, Ghost images can still be seen but only at certain light angles, RRG, circa 1909, on the way to overhaul. sbp1.jpg sbp2.jpg sbp3.jpg sbp4.jpg sbp5.jpg sbp6.jpg
 

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"My latest addition is a South Bend, 574787, Grade 323, Model 2, 18s, 17j, The Studebaker, original case, SW/LS, Nickel Cross Hatched DMK Pattern, DS Dial, Mismatched hands".
Wow! The plates on your 18s "Studebaker" look great!
My one South Bend is a lovely 12s 411 made about 1923 (1049791).
 
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Another recent addition is a Peoria, 15000, 18s,15j, HC recase , Dial marked M.B.Wright for Railway Service, SW/LS, Nickle DMK, Movement marked:
M.B.Wright, Standard, NPRR, Anti-Magnetic, Kansas City, Mo., Safety Pinion, Adjusted. Watch came with extensive biographical info on Marshall B. Wright, a well respected jeweler, businessman, and community leader. The puzzle for this watch is the engraving NPRR. First guess would be Northern Pacific RR which didn't operate near Kansas City, Mo. I checked common freight carriers, private freight carriers, common passenger carriers, electric railroads, cable car services, trolleys in the Kansas City, Mo. area and none used the initials NPRR. The initials may not represent a railroad or it could be a mistake. More digging required. px1.jpg px2.jpg px3.jpg px4.jpg px5.jpg
 

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Can you believe it - this is my first post in this thread!

Anyway. Here is the most recent addition to my collection. This pair were sold as a single item.
We have - a 12s Waltham with faux centre-sunk marginal-minute dial, and an anonymous 14s with Ferguson dial. Beautiful. They're no trouble at all. Chains added by me.

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