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Another Aurora back from a complete overhaul
It really is a great feeling getting a watch back that is clean
and oiled and running well. They look great!


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Now for a very recent addition to my accumulation of which I know very little. It's a Peoria Watch Co. product. S/N 11571, 18s, 15j, Movement is marked, Antimagnetic Spg, over Peoria Watch Co., Peoria Ill, also mkd Safety Pinion and it is SW/LS. I read that Peoria only made 18s watches and the ETP was 45K. for all types. I'm hoping Greg F. will add his research expertise to help clarify grade,model, and production data. I also read these watches have a 3star rarity. (Really??)
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"It's a Peoria Watch Co. product. S/N 11571, 18s, 15j, Movement is marked, Antimagnetic Spg, over Peoria Watch Co., Peoria Ill, also mkd Safety Pinion and it is SW/LS. I read that Peoria only made 18s watches and the ETP was 45K. for all types. I'm hoping Greg F. will add his research expertise to help clarify grade,model, and production data. I also read these watches have a 3star rarity. (Really??)"

Bob,

Nice watch. I don't know how many of this Peoria variant were made. The total production of all grades for the Fredonia/Peoria/(18 size) Non-Magnetic Watch Co. of America group is a less than 45,000.

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Hampden Molly Stark mod. 4 7j size 3/0s circa 1913. Dueber 25yr case.

Got it off the Bay this last Friday and wow it's in near mint condition almost no scratches or signs of wear. Looks like it was just manufactured yesterday! The inscription says: "Father & Mother to Gertrude Dec. 25 '15". I wonder if Gertrude ever thought that 107 years later her watch would be photographed by a cell phone camera?

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Nice, I like the little watches.


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An even later arrival is a Ball/Waltham, B0554477, M1899, circa 1903, 16s, 19j, adj, RRG. View attachment 714979 View attachment 714980 View attachment 714981 View attachment 714983 View attachment 714985 View attachment 714986 Both dial and movement marked for the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers View attachment 714989
This little railroader is highballing to Overhaul Junction where it goes to the backshop for a complete overhaul including the cockeyed crown.
 
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I haven't bought a watch since I reported the Elgin 16s, 21J, Grade 374, Father Time Up/Down indicator last October (post #986). Here is the latest addition to my collection. I bid $463 and for this lot paid $516.99 with tax and S&H. Guess why. It isn't because I needed a bunch of cheap watch chains.

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Here is why: a circa 1926 Waltham Model 1908 16s 23J Vanguard Up/Down Indicator S/N 25,342,869 (and 18 pieces of what I call "deal debris" - including one Confederate States watch with General Robert E. Lee on the face!). They made a ton of these; 177,450 according to PocketWatchDatabase. Does anyone know how many had the Up/Down indicator? A rough percentage?

I half wound this watch and it is running like new. It'll need a COA.

I have another watch coming. No, it isn't a 3rd Up/Down indicator. It's a Rockford.

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Show some movement photos if possible.

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It is a fantastic looking case and movement.


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I hope that the wheels of the engine were aligned better in real life clown.gif

I like the movement. The case design does not really appeal to me, but this is due to my European background. Over here watches with railroad designs on case and/or dial typically had quite inferior movements, just in contrast to this watch.
 

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I hope that the wheels of the engine were aligned better in real life View attachment 715626

I like the movement. The case design does not really appeal to me, but this is due to my European background. Over here watches with railroad designs on case and/or dial typically had quite inferior movements, just in contrast to this watch.
The case does not appear to be original to the movement. I see extra screw marks.
 
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This fellow has seen all types of action. The movement is an E. Howard & Co. 15j Series VIII N movement. The current case is by the AWC Co., the Canadian branch of the family judging by the Maltese cross and the designation "Sterling." I say "current" because there appears to be an extra screw mark indicating a recase. The dial, ignoring the pictures (apparently members of a previous owner's family - not mine), would appear to be an L size, type 7 dial (see Clint Geller's article on the E. Howard & Co. Watch Dials in the August 1993 Bulletin, specifically p. 393, fig. 8). So, again. likely incorrect? Still and all, it has some attraction, or I guess I wouldn't have bought it.

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I love it, it has a lot of character!

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This fellow has seen all types of action. The movement is an E. Howard & Co. 15j Series VIII N movement. The current case is by the AWC Co., the Canadian branch of the family judging by the Maltese cross and the designation "Sterling." I say "current" because there appears to be an extra screw mark indicating a recase. The dial, ignoring the pictures (apparently members of a previous owner's family - not mine), would appear to be an L size, type 7 dial (see Clint Geller's article on the E. Howard & Co. Watch Dials in the August 1993 Bulletin, specifically p. 393, fig. 8). So, again. likely incorrect? Still and all, it has some attraction, or I guess I wouldn't have bought it.

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Hi Steven, that looks like the right dial for the movement to me, but it obviously has been modified. The fourth wheel pinion has been shortened, the seconds hand was dispensed with, and the seconds bit has been replaced with a blank disk on which an image of one of the original owner's family members has been placed.
 
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Hi Steven, that looks like the right dial for the movement to me, but it obviously has been modified. The fourth wheel pinion has been shortened, thr seconds hand was dispensed with, and the seconds bit has been replaced with a blank disk on which an image of one of the original owner's family members has been placed.
Thanks for your observations, Clint. Much appreciated. Good news about the dial, though I do wish the owner had left the seconds bit intact; however, family comes first, I suppose.:).
 
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Here is a recent addition to my Civil War provenance watch collection. I have a notebook with several relevant documents pertaining to Assistant Engineer Charles J. Coney's Navy service during the Civil War and the two ships he served on.
 

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Did you ever make a life and death decision to buy a pocket watch? This case wasn't as dramatic as all that...

I signed up for a coronary bypass operation on July 5th. About a week before that I made the decision to stop looking at/buying watches (and other things I collect) because I would be in the hospital and not at home to receive delivery of any items.

About 15 minutes after I made that decision, I was scrolling through an auction in some place like Podunk, WA, and saw the below watch and knew I wanted it. One of the delivery options was via USPS and since I was having my mail held while in the hospital, I decided to bid. I waited until about 15 seconds before the auction closed with the bid at $131 and bid $252 in case there was competition. That made my bid the winning bid at $145. Twit that I am, I didn't notice that any bid within the last 5 minutes of close reset the clock to 5 minutes. I sat there for 5 long minutes with my fingers poised to enter a new bid. Nothing happened. With buyer's premium, tax, and shipping, I bought the watch for $202.31

Of course, the next day I get notified that the watch would be delivered by UPS when I might not be home to receive it. I called the auction house and arranged to have them hold it a couple of days before handing it to UPS so that I would be home to receive it. I got the operation done and got home in jig time and started waiting for the watch. Nothing. UPS had not received it.

The weekend of July 9 -10, I started calling every number and emailing every address I had for the auction house leaving messages. I got a text back saying it would be shipped on July 11. It was! I waited for a long 9 days for UPS to get it from WA to MA.

It was worth the wait. Here is the circa 1899 18S 21J Rockford Model 10 Grade 805 S/N 535750 (only 700 copies made) I received yesterday.

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Did you ever make a life and death decision to buy a pocket watch? This case wasn't as dramatic as all that...

I signed up for a coronary bypass operation on July 5th. About a week before that I made the decision to stop looking at/buying watches (and other things I collect) because I would be in the hospital and not at home to receive delivery of any items.

About 15 minutes after I made that decision, I was scrolling through an auction in some place like Podunk, WA, and saw the below watch and knew I wanted it. One of the delivery options was via USPS and since I was having my mail held while in the hospital, I decided to bid. I waited until about 15 seconds before the auction closed with the bid at $131 and bid $252 in case there was competition. That made my bid the winning bid at $145. Twit that I am, I didn't notice that any bid within the last 5 minutes of close reset the clock to 5 minutes. I sat there for 5 long minutes with my fingers poised to enter a new bid. Nothing happened. With buyer's premium, tax, and shipping, I bought the watch for $202.31

Of course, the next day I get notified that the watch would be delivered by UPS when I might not be home to receive it. I called the auction house and arranged to have them hold it a couple of days before handing it to UPS so that I would be home to receive it. I got the operation done and got home in jig time and started waiting for the watch. Nothing. UPS had not received it.

The weekend of July 9 -10, I started calling every number and emailing every address I had for the auction house leaving messages. I got a text back saying it would be shipped on July 11. It was! I waited for a long 9 days for UPS to get it from WA to MA.

It was worth the wait. Here is the circa 1899 18S 21J Rockford Model 10 Grade 805 S/N 535750 (only 700 copies made) I received yesterday.

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I'm glad your bypass worked out, Stan. How many bypasses did you get? I got four. (There is no prize for the biggest number.)
 

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So this is showing as a model 1892 AT&C grade from 1900. It is also listed as a Premier but this one is not marked Premier, so I am not sure if it is.
I know that this serial number is in a group that is reported as being Premiers , but maybe this is one that isn't. I also read that there are some Premier that were not marked as such. So anyway this is a nice looking movement.

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My latest purchase fills another hole in my "Waltham-for-Bigelow, Kennard & Co." collection. Waltham made special movements for BK&Co in five different sizes and up to five different grades in any one size with a few jeweling variants - a total of 19 different models.
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This movement is a Riverside-grade Colonial-Series (14x12 size) with 19 jewels -- one of about a dozen made for BK&Co. (Inset image more clearly shows the signature).
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I am happy to have found this one in nearly excellent condition, although saddened that the condition is testament to probable recent case-scrapping. The scrapper was so eager to melt the case that he/she just used nippers to clip the case off the movement. Nick marks from the cutter are evident on the dial and barrel bridge (at least it still has its case screws :rolleyes: ).
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It is doubly sad for me because I suspect it had a very special case by H.W. Matalene. The very next movement in sequence appeared several years ago on this board and they were probably cased identically. :eek: :mad:
( https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/bigelow-kennard-co.19775/#post-947895 and some following posts )
 

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Fantastic Jerry! but also sorry about the case.

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Here's my Elgin convertible grade 86 dial of 1895. They're nearly identical aside from the different signature font. Hands look OK to me also. These take a deeper case than most 16s watches.
post a photo of the movement, the 86's are very nice!
The movement you reference is a grade 93 not similar at all
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The grade 86 is the Nickle one all the way to the left
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post a photo of the movement, the 86's are very nice!
The movement you reference is a grade 93 not similar at all
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The grade 86 is the Nickle one all the way to the left
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Hi Rob

Yes, the movements are quite different; here's mine with its 15 jewels. It sparkles more than this picture shows. I was commenting on the dial, as the referenced poster asked if the dial on his convertible was right. I pointed out it was very similar to my dial. While I'm posting, here's a picture of the cuvette's inscription "Presented to HA Spates by the Highway Employees, Aug. 20th, 1895". Spates was Superintendent of Roads for Gloucester MA until 1895. Nice going away gift. Sorry, don't have a pic of the case closed. It's a very nice gold-filled case.

Norman

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