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My most recent purchase was a listing that
only showed the outside of the watch. The nickel case had been
painted Gold very sloppily and there is paint on the crystal too.
Maybe it was used as a prop. The back lid was VERY
hard to open and when it did, it looked like I was
the first to get it open since it was cased in this newer case because
it's in beautiful condition. Still a Key wind case but about 10 yrs newer than
the movement.

Tucker's Granger Watch San Fransisco, CA Circa 1874 (Slow train, and I'm not talking locomotive)

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Nice Tucker! The cut out balance cock is icing on the cake. That case almost wants to be left alone.-Cort
 

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I remember saying in a thread I'll never be a collector. I LIED! lol
I picked this Waltham 1883 AT&Co on Ebay. I love the Dial and every crack in it but the movement is super clean and even came with the dust cover.
It runs extremely well when just a little pressure is applied to the center wheel with a toothpick. It has a broken mainspring that I will get around to replacing. I intend to fully restore it but keeping the Dial

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I can get the ball rolling. My latest addition is American Watch Company Grade 19 Jewel Model 1859 Movement SN 40,126 with Fitts's patented reversing center pinion and double sunk dial, in what I believe to be the original gold hunting case, marked "T.B.B." This movement was finished in November of 1860, the same month in which Abraham Lincoln became President Elect of the United States. (South Carolina seceded the following month, on December 20. Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861, after six more states had seceded.)

The NAWCC.org Waltham Serial Number Lookup utility suggests that Waltham made 260 AWCo Grade Model 1859 movements, but surviving examples seem to be fewer and farther between than that number would suggest. SN 40,126 is out of the last and longest run of these, and it is only 18 numbers away from the example Tom McIntyre shows on his excellent website, AWCo.org.

If anyone knows who "T.B.B." might have stood for, I'd appreciate your sharing that information.

A better photographer than me, who can identify himself if he wishes, shot these pictures.

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I can get the ball rolling. My latest addition is American Watch Company Grade 19 Jewel Model 1859 Movement SN 40,126 with Fitts's patented reversing center pinion and double sunk dial, in what I believe to be the original gold hunting case, marked "T.B.B." This movement was finished in November of 1860, the same month in which Abraham Lincoln became President Elect of the United States. (South Carolina seceded the following month, on December 20. Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861, after six more states had seceded.)

The NAWCC.org Waltham Serial Number Lookup utility suggests that Waltham made 260 AWCo Grade Model 1859 movements, but surviving examples seem to be fewer and farther between than that number would suggest. SN 40,126 is out of the last and longest run of these, and it is only 18 numbers away from the example Tom McIntyre shows on his excellent website, AWCo.org.

If anyone knows who "T.B.B." might have stood for, I'd appreciate your sharing that information.

A better photographer than me, who can identify himself if he wishes, shot these pictures.

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Just got it today. Now for a case. Does anyone know if these hands and dial are original.

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Thought I would share my first pocket watch with you all.
It all needs to start somewhere, welcome to our addiction. ;)


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Vyper,
You make a wise purchase for your 1st watch. Hamilton was the Standard of the Railroad Men because of their dependability and accuracy.
You have a Model 5 Hamilton RR case and by this time they were sold cased at the Factory.Your watch needs a Regulator spring, not a big deal and it will run without one.
Congrats.
 

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Vyper,
You make a wise purchase for your 1st watch. Hamilton was the Standard of the Railroad Men because of their dependability and accuracy.
You have a Model 5 Hamilton RR case and by this time they were sold cased at the Factory.Your watch needs a Regulator spring, not a big deal and it will run without one.
Congrats.
Thanks, I’ll keep an eye out for a Regulator spring, I was wondering what it was called.
 

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Just got this one back from the watchmaker. Now running as it should. South Bend 327, 18s, 21j, Serial No. 55114.
There seems to be some controversy about how many of these were made. I've read that South Bend set aside a block of a thousand serial numbers devoted to this model, but it seems that fewer than a thousand were made. Does anybody know what the numbers actually were?
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Just got this one back from the watchmaker. Now running as it should. South Bend 327, 18s, 21j, Serial No. 55114.
There seems to be some controversy about how many of these were made. I've read that South Bend set aside a block of a thousand serial numbers devoted to this model, but it seems that fewer than a thousand were made. Does anybody know what the numbers actually were?
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Hi Lee, I always thought that there was only 4 runs produced with 100 in each run for a total of 400 if all produced.
 
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Hi Lee, I always thought that there was only 4 runs produced with 100 in each run for a total of 400 if all produced.
Thanks for the information, Bila. I'd heard fewer than 1,000 were produced. The runs seem to have been mixed with SW models.
 

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Thanks for the information, Bila. I'd heard fewer than 1,000 were produced. The runs seem to have been mixed with SW models.
I went back and had a look at the numbers Lee, my Statement of 4 runs of a 100 each is not correct although the total of 400 of all produced is possible based on the few numbers that have been reported.

There was a run of 300 quantity of 21 Jewel Grade 327's, then followed a run of 100 which consisted of 17 Jewel Grade 309's. then another run 100 quantity of 21 Jewel Grade 327's, this then gives a possible total of the 400.

Although in saying this I have seen no watches from the 555501 to 555600 serial block of any sort (although in my opinion is probably a 100 production run of Grade 309's also), but if the Grade 327's happen to appear in this block of 100 hundred then we would have a possible total of 500 produced by the Factory.

From 555601-555900 we are back into the 17 Jewel Grade 309's, all Grade 309's were Lever Set (all Grade 309's were lever-set), until we get to the 555901-556000 which again I have not seen any watch from here either but would bet money on it being a run of Grade 309's:).

The theory of these Grade 327's being interspersed within a mixed run of Grade 309's always makes me giggle, for some reason a lot of Researchers when Factory records are scarce break Watch Factory production blocks down into runs of 1000 units and then use the term "a mixed run". This is possibly misleading and incorrect (when Factory records are incomplete or missing) regarding certain Manufacturers' in my opinion as we never knew what the Factory Management had on/in their minds at the time, whether this is the case for the South Bends time will tell.

So to re-cap, you effectively have if my early view of the data is correct a Grade 327 production block of 300, Then a Grade 309 production block of 100, then a Grade 327 production block of 100 and to finish of Grade 309 production block of 500.

To test this theory due to the scarcity of the Grade 327's a data collection of the Grade 309's between "Serials 555001 to 556000" would provide a better picture of actual Grade 327 production, so I might put-up a request for numbers from that series of serial blocks:)
 
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Just got it today. Now for a case. Does anyone know if these hands and dial are original.
I have an old Elgin grade 50 convertible I bought many years ago and it has the same dial and hands as yours, so I'd assume it's original. A quick look up of this grade on the PW data base shows other grade 50's posted sporting the same dial and hands also.

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Illinois grade A. Lincoln, 16s, 21j, A5P, model 9, 1913 (#2755704)

I finally finished my small collection of Illinois grade A. Lincolns in 12, 18, and this 16s just purchased a short time ago. I had been looking for the 16s for a long time, but most of those I came across were too pricey or not in great condition. I finally came across one recently which fit what I was looking for. The movement runs great keeping good time and the Dueber 20 year case is in great cosmetic condition, with a crisp die engraved steam locomotive and tender on the rear cover. The dial does have chips on a few of the numerals (particularly 12 o'clock) which I may try to fill with black enamel paint later on.

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In the past I've been more interested in simple mantle, wall and cuckoo clocks because I love the vibe of ticking/chiming/cuckooing clocks in a quiet room. Recently I suddenly got curious about pocket watches and over the last couple weeks acquired a couple of them from American Timekeeper and Antique Watch Co. I don't have movement photos because with 3 cats in the house I feel like I need to construct a flow bench before I'd dare to open them up. ;) I have a display dome for one, though I'm considering putting together a wall-hanging display case with a glass front that opens up.

SN are 4673473 and 1054003

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I love the vibe of ticking/chiming/cuckooing clocks in a quiet room.
I can hear my daily carry pocket watch across the room (when not in my pocket) ;) .


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Hamilton 16s 2974b, model 1, 17j, OF, A3P, #2K8594 (1944) hacking comparing watch made for the U.S. armed forces.

The ledgers indicate the watch being finished and sold on July 20, 1944, and the receiver being what I assume to be a U.S. Gov. contract number. Further in that direction the movement includes a very tight snap on inner cover, which is not easy to remove, thus preventing GI's with little watchmaking skills (like me) from fiddling with it. I have two WWII period pocket watches fitted this way and keep the inside snap covers off.

I purchased 2974b May 1st (from Jim H.) and just recently got it back from my watchmaker for service and a new MS. The watch's nickel plates are in superb condition as are the friction fit raised gold (gilt?), jewel cups, dial, and baton hands. Speaking of the dial I've never seen it's back, and I assumed it might be "melamine" , but it's glossiness led me to believe it might be glass enamel until I came upon a very old thread discussing the very topic of melamine glossy dials and later more flat/non-glassy.

After adjusting the regulator a bit the watch is keeping very accurate time.


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Here is my most recent acquisition, a 14k Keystone 0s size case. I removed the low grade Waltham movement and decided to put in an Elgin grade 174 that I had for a long time. I swapped the dial also with this sepia photo dial which I think goes well with this case. The case is beautifully decorated as a spider web. I had to buy this watch because of how smiliar it was to my Gruen diamond spider watch.

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That is one crazy looking watch!!!!

Nice!



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Both of them certainly appeal to me. Not a fan of the live version, but these two cases are amazing. I wonder how popular spider watches were...
 
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Here is my most recent acquisition, a 14k Keystone 0s size case. I removed the low grade Waltham movement and decided to put in an Elgin grade 174 that I had for a long time. I swapped the dial also with this sepia photo dial which I think goes well with this case. The case is beautifully decorated as a spider web. I had to buy this watch because of how smiliar it was to my Gruen diamond spider watch.

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Did you find it on the web, Shawn? :)
 
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Here is my most recent acquisition, a 14k Keystone 0s size case. I removed the low grade Waltham movement and decided to put in an Elgin grade 174 that I had for a long time. I swapped the dial also with this sepia photo dial which I think goes well with this case. The case is beautifully decorated as a spider web. I had to buy this watch because of how smiliar it was to my Gruen diamond spider watch.
Beautiful cases Shawn! I've always been fascinated by eight eyed arachnid friends. Every summer one shows up at the inside my side door and garage door. I rarely see them, but the desiccated corpses of ants and flies I vacuum up just inside the door shows their keeping other pests out.


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Beautiful cases Shawn! I've always been fascinated by eight eyed arachnid friends. Every summer one shows up at the inside my side door and garage door. I rarely see them, but the desiccated corpses of ants and flies I vacuum up just inside the door shows their keeping other pests out.


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I think that's why they are referred to as "benificials."
 
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