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I just received this watch, it was a very pleasant surprise. 18 size Columbus circa 1894. Multicolor gold-filled case (green, white, yellow gold, rose gold), near mint condition overall.

I do not recognize the case maker mark - anyone out there know it? Looks like a B symbol, a crown, followed by a II mark. Underneath is "Warranted".

Thanks - J

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I just received this watch, it was a very pleasant surprise. 18 size Columbus circa 1894. Multicolor gold-filled case (green, white, yellow gold, rose gold), near mint condition overall.

I do not recognize the case maker mark - anyone out there know it? Looks like a B symbol, a crown, followed by a II mark. Underneath is "Warranted".

Thanks - J

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Muhr gold-filled case. Nice looking watch.
 

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I just received this watch, it was a very pleasant surprise. 18 size Columbus circa 1894. Multicolor gold-filled case (green, white, yellow gold, rose gold), near mint condition overall.

I do not recognize the case maker mark - anyone out there know it? Looks like a B symbol, a crown, followed by a II mark. Underneath is "Warranted".

Thanks - J

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I've seen that marking on several gold filled cases before. I'd like to know who that it is too.
 

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Well, here is a recent acquisition: open face American Watch Company grade Model 1872, SN 2,747,924, completed probably in 1886, with gold train, 21 ruby jewels in gold, screwed-down settings, Breguet hairspring, Fogg's pinion and cam regulator, and Gothic AWCo glass enamel dial. The margins of the winding wheels have the same subtle pattern of precisely executed radial lines as seen on the somewhat later 19 jewel AWCo grade Model 1888 production. On high grade Model 1872's, this decorative element is combined with other elements, usually some version of a braided rope pattern, such as on these wheels. The 14K gold case by the Courvoisier-Wilcox Mfg. Co., whose offices were on Maiden Lane in NYC, has two interesting features: it has an inner bezel, which carries the crystal, and which protects the dial when the outer bezel is raised to access the setting lever; and the case features a pattern of diamond-shaped facets all along the band, which extends onto the edges of the case lids. I acquired the movement and the case, which I believe previously housed an Amn grade Model 1872 movement, in separate transactions.

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I just received this Illinois Electric Railroad Standard. Until I saw this one I did not know Illinois made one like this. I have several versions of the Hamilton 974's. Of course as soon as I got it then I saw the Trolley Pocket Watch thread. This one is a 17 jewel 1926 Grade 305 Model 7 Serial # 4703523, and the case, a Dueber, was clearly used on another watch. For all I know it is a cobbled up watch. The dial is real nice with plum hands.
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Another antique store find (although same store I got my last one). Hampden Model 3 18s 11j circa 1885. Runs well and keeps good time however crystal is plastic obviously not original so I'm looking to replace it with the correct glass one. Star 10k gold-filled case.

Apologies for the bad cell phone pics I'm looking into getting a better camera with a macro lens.

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Hello Pmurphy, nice one!
That is a 15 jewel adjusted model 3 with a patent regulator. A nice watch movement. Grade 56.
Thanks, Rick!

Watch was listed at shop as a 7 jewel circa 1900 and I don't know where they come up with that info. It's a good runner so I took my chances on it.
 

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I have thoroughly enjoyed browsing this thread over the last couple days. Many special watches here, most of which prompted me to say to myself, "I like that one!" I have introduced myself on a few other threads as a new thread-posting member (after 22 years of being a NAWCC member!). I'll add my latest acquisition here instead of devoting it to an entire thread.

My latest was actually purchased (and received) the same day as the Elgin Veritas 23-jewel watch (which I posted in the "Favorite Elgin" thread). In keeping with an ever-changing focus, I obtained a second 23-jewel watch from my "want-list" of six). I get the sense it is a very common watch, but well-respected by collectors.

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Seller's dial photo. Not sure why I went through all the trouble of photographing the movements and cases on the Elgin and Hamilton, but didn't get a dial shot? Oh well, not like it's unique, but at least it's perfect condition!
 

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I forgot this story from my pocket watch collecting days of 1986-1988. My Dad thought those pocket watches I was buying were really cool. So for his birthday I found one as a gift from my Mom.

He loved it, but I think it scared him a little bit. He had not wound a watch since the mid-1970s, and he knew he had to be careful with an antique. I might have scared him by telling him how to properly close a hunting case watch. So as much as he loved it, I don’t think he really enjoyed it, if that makes sense.

My daughter and I had a rare day off to spend with my parents. My dad brought me the pocket watch and said that he wanted me to have it. I remembered it was a 16-size, 19 jewel Waltham in a hunting case, but all the other details escaped me. It turned out to be a nice lever set Riverside Model 1899 from 1903, and I’m guessing by the 24 hour dial it was made for the Canadian market. The case is brassing on the bow but looks good elsewhere. Case made by Fortune, with no gold-filled “content” noted.

I did not want to give it a full wind up, but gave a short twist to the crown. It kept time for 40 minutes until the power reserve ran out. I don’t know the prior service history, but I know it has been 30-plus years since it was last serviced. I’ll have my watchmaker clean it up and get it back before summer...

You know what they say about watchmakers: good, cheap, quick-pick the two you want! (I picked good and cheap, and except for the wait I haven’t been disappointed yet!).

Here are some pictures I took last night.
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Now, my Shugart price guide is from 1995, and there’s no listing for a 16-size Model 1899 in a 19 jewel, lever -set hunting case configuration. But I’m fairly confident I don’t have a rare example. Or do I? :)
 

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Great find!



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Nice Bunn Special. They're beautiful watches. And Illinois had such a great selection of distinctive cases. The number 29 is one of my favorites. Come to think of it, most of the dedicated Bunn Special cases are favorites. The 206, 28, and 173 are great too. They're all great. Congrat's on your acquisition. Enjoy. Cheers.
 

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Model 1908 Waltham Riverside, #22328145, 19j, L/S, A5P, made in 1918.

I bought this late last December; the last watch I bought in 2021. The model 1908 were some of the first 16s 17j Walthams I bought when I first started collecting watches and I bought many before I shifted more to collection 18s watches. Years later, after filling out the 18s collection, I've started buying 16s 1908s again, particularly 17-19 jewel versions, as I already had the higher grade models in the collection. I also poke around for the very last of the Waltham pocket watches that came out of the factory with US made parts in 1953. My latest so far 1908 1623-Vanguard from 1952.

The watch (which is in great cosmetic and running condition) is housed in a DUEBER 20 yr. SB&B GF case (not original) with die engraved detail on back cover.


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Rich,

Exactly. It's why I enjoy looking for them. My best find was a model 1908 17j adjusted PSB movement with dial and hands, and all in excellent condition, for the princely sum of $36.50. I was surprised no one else bid on it and I figured a good dial and complete set of hands would be worth about the same. After bit of a clean, oil I regulated the watch and recorded it's positional errors. I ran it for 61 days and would wear it often, including going out for long walks. I checked the error in the evening and placed the watch in a position to offset the error during the night. When I started the watch's error was -6 sec. and after 61days the error was -6.9. Not bad for a parts movement.
 

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Just got this in from the auction house in Canada... a Longines "Express Leader", 19j 16s (SN 2973298), adjusted to 5 positions. It's in a GF Cashier "Extra" case, with worn monogram (I think, hard to tell) on the back. I usually don't get involved with Swiss/European watches, but the Montgomery dial was interesting to me...I had googled this model of watch and didn't see really any with labeled Monty dials. It's running like a banshee.

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but the Montgomery dial was interesting to me
We call these marginal minute dials. The Montgomery
dials are different.

Rob
 

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We call these marginal minute dials. The Montgomery
dials are different.

Rob
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As a novice I didn't realize there were different sub-styles...after studying some threads here, I guess it is NOT a Monty because its missing the 6 hour?
 
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I usually don't get involved with Swiss/European watches, but the Montgomery dial was interesting to me...I had googled this model of watch and didn't see really any with labeled Monty dials. It's running like a banshee.
If you need more information on this watch you can contact Longines.com they have a History research division and can look up all the information they have on the movement. Have used them a couple of times they are very good to work with.
 

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I feel like I haven’t gotten a new pocket watch in a long time. Bumped into this fun piece — I couldn’t resist — and threw out a bargain price and it became mine. The original case was gone — but thankfully I have a white gold substitute.

Presenting a Tiffany signed dial and movement Waltham 14s Riverside A. It runs well — but needs a good clean and servicing.

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Just got this in from the auction house in Canada... a Longines "Express Leader", 19j 16s (SN 2973298), adjusted to 5 positions. It's in a GF Cashier "Extra" case, with worn monogram (I think, hard to tell) on the back. I usually don't get involved with Swiss/European watches, but the Montgomery dial was interesting to me...I had googled this model of watch and didn't see really any with labeled Monty dials. It's running like a banshee.

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Always nice to see a Railroad Grade watch as so accepted in Canada by the CPR
 

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If you need more information on this watch you can contact Longines.com they have a History research division and can look up all the information they have on the movement. Have used them a couple of times they are very good to work with.
Thanks, Rodney. I had read that from other Longines watch owners when I was researching this watch prior to bidding. Sounds like the company is a class act when contacted by researchers!
 

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My watchmaker finished cleaning and servicing this recent acquisition for me today:

American Watch Company Grade Model 1872 movement SN 2,788,058. 21 ruby jewels in raised gold screwed down settings, gold train, Fogg's cam regulator, marked nonmagnetic double roller escapement, Gothic AWCo-signed glass enamel dial, 18K AWCo, engraved and engine turned hunting case (45 DWT net gold with springs and crystal removed). The handwritten factory records say this hundred lot was "undelivered," but then it says "Nov./88" afterwards on the same line.

Marked nonmagnetic AWCo grade Model 1872's seem to be pretty scarce. I have owned three examples, including SN 2,788,058, in my nearly 40 years of collecting, and I know of five others, though I'm sure there must be at least several more around. One of the other examples I owned was open face, and the third was a gold dome model with Am'n grade winding wheels that appears to have been finished considerably later than it was begun, which I understand was not uncommon with these high-grade movements. At least the gold dome model also had a double roller nonmagnetic escapement. Perhaps all the marked nonmag 21 jewel Model 1872's do, but I don't know.

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Rick Hufnagel helped me get the back off this one. As I said in my response to him, I don't like these snap-on cases. But otherwise, the Muckle a.k.a. Magic Watch Case is pretty interesting. There are other threads about this case. It was produced by the Northwestern Watch Company (later, the Rockford Watch Case Company) and mostly appears on Rockford watches, though apparently some Elgins as well. This is a Rockford Model 101 c. 1891, Serial Number 380422. IMG_1683.JPG IMG_1681.JPG IMG_1682.JPG IMG_1680.JPG IMG_1684.JPG IMG_1685.JPG
 

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After a long dry spell I finally added a new watch to my collection. This fits my sub-collection of private-label watches made by Waltham for Bigelow, Kennard & Co., Boston. Note the special patented recoiling click (exclusively for BK&Co.) and whiplash regulator. Over the course of 8-10 years Waltham made around 1,200 movements for this jeweler, in 19 different sizes/grades. This is the lowest grade 12-size model made for BK&Co., a 15-jewel grade 220. [One of around 100 made for them in this grade]. Whereas higher grade models were often in solid gold cases, this is in a nice gold-filled case by Crescent W.C.Co.
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This was my first Addison in a very long time but it was unusual enough to pursue. The dog drew my attention first. I have one other with a dog but this was one I didn’t know existed. The dial is nice too and it also has one of the scarce aluminum movements. What I was surprise though is that the front and back of the case are aluminum too! First time I’ve seen that. I am not 100% certain the gold filled case frame is original to this but it could be. Aluminum to aluminum snap on case parts might wear out rather quickly I think. Into the collection it goes.-Cort

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That is a Sharp looking Waterbury!

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I placed a low absentee bid at an Ohio auction for this 18 size Elgin watch, hoping that I could repurpose the case for an orphan movement. The listing showed a single photo of the watch, with no information about the movement. The watch was very tarnished and dusty when I received it, but a little bit of polishing and cleaning revealed a lovely gold filled case with very little wear. The crystal is perfect, and the movement turned out to be a decent 11Jewel from 1894. The movement does not run, but it likely just needs a cleaning and mainspring. A nice chain and fob came with it. So, I will have to keep looking for another case for that orphan. Overall, a pleasant find.

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When I rekindled my interest in pocket watches a few months ago, I wanted to fulfill my old dream of getting a "proper" (original solid gold case) Boston Howard with a 17-jewel, 3/4 split-plate movement. As I began to re-educate myself in the ways of Boston Howards, I began to wonder if, instead of the late-model example, I should instead seek out an early example?

Well, I went ahead with Plan A and found a beautiful Series VII split plate. But the new desire for an early model would not go away. This is what arrived yesterday.

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It's an early Series III, serial number 3563. Judging by an attachment on the Howard sticky post in this forum, it is within a range of Howards that were (sold? recorded?) on April 18, 1863 (mine was not among those 11 movements documented). But the engraving is dated 1871. How can that be? Here's my guess…

Jeremiah Austin Scott, born in Connecticut in 1806, was a successful businessman in Ohio. He and his family settled in Toledo, in 1859, where he became a prominent and influential factor in financial and business circles there. In retirement, he moved to Ann Arbor in 1868. He died in 1892, leaving his family a "goodly estate."

J. Austin Scott's oldest son was Dr. Austin Scott, who became the president of Rutger's College in New Jersey. The second oldest son was Evart Henry Scott, born August 2, 1850. Evart attended University of Michigan in Ann Arbor for two years, but left school to engage in manufacturing interests as the owner of a factory producing agricultural implements. He was also interested in the cultivation of fruit. Evart Scott was a member of the Ann Arbor school board for 15 years, and a member of the board of public works. He died in 1946, at the age of 95.

My guess is that J. Austin Scott purchased the Howard watch, befitting of a successful businessman, sometime during the Civil War. His son Evart would have been about 12-13 years old at the time. Perhaps Evart so admired his father's watch that his father (and mother) decided to pass it to him on the occasion of his 21[SUP]st[/SUP] birthday in 1871? The circumstances are long forgotten, but the date of the engraving on the Howard watch matches the bit of history I dug out of the Internet pertaining to Evart H. Scott. Not quite the historical figure his older brother was, but from what I gathered, Evart was a well-respected citizen of Ann Arbor. The home he built there in 1888 was remodeled and currently serves as the home of the Ann Arbor City Club.

Perhaps some collectors prefer their watches without engravings, but I love the search for a story. I am very pleased with my latest addition!
 

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Perhaps some collectors prefer their watches without engravings, but I love the search for a story. I am very pleased with my latest addition!
I love a good story too!

Very nice addition to your collection.
Congratulations.


Rob
 
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When I rekindled my interest in pocket watches a few months ago, I wanted to fulfill my old dream of getting a "proper" (original solid gold case) Boston Howard with a 17-jewel, 3/4 split-plate movement. As I began to re-educate myself in the ways of Boston Howards, I began to wonder if, instead of the late-model example, I should instead seek out an early example?

Well, I went ahead with Plan A and found a beautiful Series VII split plate. But the new desire for an early model would not go away. This is what arrived yesterday.

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It's an early Series III, serial number 3563. Judging by an attachment on the Howard sticky post in this forum, it is within a range of Howards that were (sold? recorded?) on April 18, 1863 (mine was not among those 11 movements documented). But the engraving is dated 1871. How can that be? Here's my guess…

Jeremiah Austin Scott, born in Connecticut in 1806, was a successful businessman in Ohio. He and his family settled in Toledo, in 1859, where he became a prominent and influential factor in financial and business circles there. In retirement, he moved to Ann Arbor in 1868. He died in 1892, leaving his family a "goodly estate."

J. Austin Scott's oldest son was Dr. Austin Scott, who became the president of Rutger's College in New Jersey. The second oldest son was Evart Henry Scott, born August 2, 1850. Evart attended University of Michigan in Ann Arbor for two years, but left school to engage in manufacturing interests as the owner of a factory producing agricultural implements. He was also interested in the cultivation of fruit. Evart Scott was a member of the Ann Arbor school board for 15 years, and a member of the board of public works. He died in 1946, at the age of 95.

My guess is that J. Austin Scott purchased the Howard watch, befitting of a successful businessman, sometime during the Civil War. His son Evart would have been about 12-13 years old at the time. Perhaps Evart so admired his father's watch that his father (and mother) decided to pass it to him on the occasion of his 21[SUP]st[/SUP] birthday in 1871? The circumstances are long forgotten, but the date of the engraving on the Howard watch matches the bit of history I dug out of the Internet pertaining to Evart H. Scott. Not quite the historical figure his older brother was, but from what I gathered, Evart was a well-respected citizen of Ann Arbor. The home he built there in 1888 was remodeled and currently serves as the home of the Ann Arbor City Club.

Perhaps some collectors prefer their watches without engravings, but I love the search for a story. I am very pleased with my latest addition!
Hi Bryan, I can confirm that the factory records document that movement SN 3,563 was completed on April 18, 1863, but as we recently discussed, I'm afraid there is a more prosaic explanation for the discrepancy of eight years between the completion date of movement SN 3,563 at the Howard factory and the date of the inscription on the cuvette. Not all Howard Model 1862N (a.k.a., "Series III") movements have their case screws in the same locations. The very earliest Model 1862N movements, like SN 3,563, have two case screws down on the dial plate. Shortly thereafter, these were replaced by a single case screw at the base of the balance cock. Later still, the single case screw was moved to the 3/4 top plate. At around the same time the case screw was moved to the top plate, a dust ring was added to the movement design. Your case has an extraneous screw mark adjacent to the top plate exactly where the case screw would have been on a late Model 1862N movement. There is also a small gap evident between the movement and the interior edge of the case, which would be filled by the dust ring of a late Model 1862N movement of the kind being completed circa 1870 or 1871. Following our discussion, I decided it was important to share this information with the community.

If I may ask, what is the maker's mark on the case? That might give us some additional information. It is a lovely case and it seems to have been made for a Howard Model 1862N movement, but I regret to say, not for movement SN 3,563.
 
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Elgin grade 43 model 5 18s 11j circa 1887.

Antique store find although it's the same one I bought the other two at. Runs great but I can't seem pop up the pendent to set it (movement is listed as pendent-set).
My wife doesn't drive and works from home (and is also a full-time college student taking classes at home due to pandemic) so every Sat. weather permitting we go on a road trip about an hour or two away to get her out of the house where we discovered an antique shop last Autumn with four pocket watches. I ended up buying three of them so far, not at the same time, of course as I don't like going home empty-handed. Case is I'm assuming gold-filled and I can't seem to tell the design on the back. It looks like either of an outline of a cottage or a slice of bread.

Edit: I included a better picture of the caseback and it appears that one of the screws attaching the movement on the lower left is not original and the right-side screw has a broken head.

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