Please report missing images HERE!

[Tom McIntyre]

This thread is intended to help clean up missing images from old or archived posts. If you notice a post with missing images, please reply to this thread with a link to the post that has the missing image. If you know where a good copy of the image is that we can copy, please post that also.

Tom and Bruce have completed the automated processes that have recovered 1000's of the missing images. NOW it would be helpful to report any images that are still missing and require manual recovery. Also, please report any posts with incorrect non-English characters.

 

[jhe.1973]

Thanks for the ongoing efforts Tom, to you and the other site techs

Agree totally! Until a person actually gets to working w/web sites, the amount of time required is difficult to realize. To say nothing of the attention to detail that is also required.

It really is a pleasure to be able to be able to share in all this talent and experience.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

I had an alert that a post of mine had been moved to here. When I clicked on the link it said I did not have permission to access that. I came here to see if I could still find it but this thread has two posts. I'm not bothered by this but there was a spate of moderators moving posts to threads nobody had access to when we first moved to this new board, perhaps this is an area that still needs a tweek.

 

[Bill Stuntz]

I moved the posts to a private area to clean up this thread. I THINK I looked at all the posts & checked that the reported missing images had been recovered. Is there a post that you had reported that has images that haven't been recovered? If so, I'll be glad to move that report back to remind us that it still needs to be worked on.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

I moved the posts to a private area to clean up this thread. I THINK I looked at all the posts & checked that the reported missing images had been recovered. Is there a post that you had reported that has images that haven't been recovered? If so, I'll be glad to move that report back to remind us that it still needs to be worked on.

No, I have not found any more missing

 

[Jerry Treiman]

These posts have dead image links:
Waltham Elegance
Favorite pocket watches

This thread also has a lot of dead links throughout:
Waltham Colonial A

Can we get the thumbnails back for the images in this post (as well as the previous one)?
pAteNTS in your pants - How many patents do you have in your watch pocket?

 

[Jerry Treiman]

It looks like all of the illustrations and patent drawings are gone from this thread -
Church's Patent Barrel (or not)

Can they be recovered?

 

[Tom McIntyre]

It looks like all of the illustrations and patent drawings are gone from this thread -
Church's Patent Barrel (or not)

Can they be recovered?

Jerry, I saw all the patent drawings that you had posted were missing, but the images of watches were still there. Can you not see the images of the watches? (I replaced the patent drawings.)

It is a bit of work to copy the images from the backup to my computer and then re-insert them in the posts but they all seem to still be intact on our backup of the old message board. So please, everyone, continue to report them here as you come across them. I may not always be able to repair the threads quickly but they will all get done eventually.

Someone should make this patent barrel thread into an Encyclopedia article.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Thanks, Tom. When I had looked up this thread the only images that showed were yours of the Fitts barrel. I think I can see all of the images now.

Can you do anything about the image problems I noted in post #6 above? I can probably find copies of any images that you cannot restore.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

These posts have dead image links:
Waltham Elegance

I have restored the images in the Waltham Elegance thread. Check them to be sure. Interesting that the word "Patrician" on the movement seems to be misspelled "Patririan."

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Can you do anything about the image problems I noted in post #6 above? I can probably find copies of any images that you cannot restore.

The images that do not have thumbnails are the result of a conflict between how XenForo and vBulletin handle albums. Yours are in your Media albums. There is some discussion on the XenForo site about automatic ways to correct those to the thumbnails or at least the images. I plan to look at the problem over the next couple of months.

If I open those threads/posts to you for editing, you would be able to use the camera tool (embed media) to insert the images in the post.

I am hoping to be able to rationalize all the image handling when we upgrade to the version 2 release of XenForo later this year. Most of the developers in that community are now working on features and fixes for V2.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

I just did a small experiment in @Omexa thread on New York Watch Co. I wanted to post the pictures of my New York Springfield that are in my media gallery. It turns out that the camera tool does not cover all the Media you own. It does not show your albums. If you navigate to the Media Gallery and select the image you want from your album or non-album images, the full size image reference can be copied and pasted into your post as an IMG bbCode. When the post is saved, that gets converted to an attachment with thumbnail just as if you uploaded it from your computer or elsewhere.

If you embed an image using the camera tool, the link takes you to the page in the Media Gallery where the image is.That page provides for discussions about the image itself in the context of the gallery.

I believe the design concept is that you make a post about the image(s) to reference them but the primary discussion takes place about the images in the Media Gallery. Either usage is valid, but the tools are not very intuitive to me at this time.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

I just did a small experiment in @Omexa thread on New York Watch Co. I wanted to post the pictures of my New York Springfield that are in my media gallery. It turns out that the camera tool does not cover all the Media you own. It does not show your albums. If you navigate to the Media Gallery and select the image you want from your album or non-album images, the full size image reference can be copied and pasted into your post as an IMG bbCode. When the post is saved, that gets converted to an attachment with thumbnail just as if you uploaded it from your computer or elsewhere.

If you embed an image using the camera tool, the link takes you to the page in the Media Gallery where the image is.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

I have restored the images in the Waltham Elegance thread. Check them to be sure. Interesting that the word "Patrician" on the movement seems to be misspelled "Patririan."

Thanks, Steven. It looks like an image is still missing from post #4. I can provide a replacement image if the original is lost.
The peculiar Old English “c” just seems to come out that way on various Walthams, looking like an “r”, but there is a subtle difference.

Tom - in the Favorite Pocket Watches thread you have nicely recovered the images for post #40 (Thank you!), but #41 still has dead links.
.......- in the Colonial-A thread, attachment 264970 is still missing from post #27 and attachment 400048 is still missing from post #35
--- I can provide replacement images if the originals cannot be restored.

Thank you to the team for your ongoing efforts to restore the images.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Thanks, Steven. It looks like an image is still missing from post #4. I can provide a replacement image if the original is lost.
The peculiar Old English “c” just seems to come out that way on various Walthams, looking like an “r”, but there is a subtle difference.

I had blinders on and focused on just Post # 1. I have fixed Post # 4, also Post # 12, which was missing its image.

 

[ibm clock]

IBM/ITR Master Clock type 13-7 circa 1931

Some, but not all, of the images are missing. also some dead links here.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Here is another post with missing images -
Original "side-winders"

 

[Jeff Salmon]

Steve:

While re-visiting the thread about dating Lentzkirsch clocks I notice that several pictures are not right. Attachments 3282, 3283 and 3284 and 3285 are not the right images. The last 2 were submitted by me several years ago. There are some others in the thread that do not seem to be right either.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Thanks for reporting this. I will try to sort them out later today.

When reporting missing images, it saves me about half an hour if you post a link to the thread in question.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

The first post in this thread is missing a number of images -
... a riddle, wrapped in a mystery ...

 

[Steven Thornberry]

The first post in this thread is missing a number of images -
... a riddle, wrapped in a mystery ...

I have re-added the pictures. Please make sure they are correctly placed.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Thank you!

 

[KurtinSA]

Ran across this thread with missing pictures:

Is this the right pendulum for my JUF Angel Clock?

I clicked on some of the links and it seems to go to TIF files. A few of the images open up but they appear to be the wrong images based upon what I read in the preceding text.

Kurt

 

[Jerry Treiman]

I don’t know what it is about my posts, but a lot of them seem to have broken links.
Here are a few more --

What are YOU wearing today? Please share!
What are YOU wearing today? Please share!
What are YOU wearing today? Please share!

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Jerry, I can't figure out what you are reporting with those links. They are all to a wristwatch thread. Did you post something in that thread or is the reference finding the wrong thread?

I think it is missing lots of images in that very long thread. Is that the issue?

 

[Jerry Treiman]

The links are to three posts of mine that have dead links. I had been trying to see what I had previously posted before my latest post.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

When I click on those links, I go to someone else's post.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

I think we have stumbled on a flaw in the system (or my use of the system). I got the link by copying the URL for the post, based on a search result, not from the post number. When I click those three links they take me to my posts - #591, #1439 and # 1623. I notice the link address includes a page number. The page number may be different for you and me based on how many posts we display per page (I show 50 posts per page).

Try these (copied from post #):
What are YOU wearing today? Please share!
What are YOU wearing today? Please share!
What are YOU wearing today? Please share!

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Jerry, I can't figure out what you are reporting with those links. They are all to a wristwatch thread. Did you post something in that thread or is the reference finding the wrong thread?

What's so hard to understand? The three links are to three different posts made by Jerry in the same thread. All three are now lacking the attachments originally posted there. I find the same thing in many of my own posts and every now and then take the time and trouble to re-add them. I thought there was going to be a fix for the continuing problem. There has been no final resolution by a long shot.

Since Jerry's links seem to be to specific posts, I don't understand how Tom got to the wrong area.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

As Jerry pointed out, I am using a different number of posts per page, so the page notation messes it up. The page information is not needed in the URL and really should not be there. The post identifier index is the only reliable piece of data. Jerry's second listing of the same results is always correct no matter what the reader's settings are.

The POST bbCode may also be used like Jerry used the /post/ in the URL. Either will work in all cases and both take the same argument.

I am not sure why the XenForo developers included the spurious page number in their post location interface.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

In any case the images are now restored in Jerry's 3 posts.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Thank you!

 

[Tom McIntyre]

I find the same thing in many of my own posts and every now and then take the time and trouble to re-add them. I thought there was going to be a fix for the continuing problem. There has been no final resolution by a long shot.

The problem is that the import process broke down in the commercial phase. Our image data was so large that we could not have two copies of it on the same computer (we thought... that was not really true). When I tried to use direct database edits to fix the problem, it did not work completely. The mapping of content from the old system to the new system also uses some redirection routines that I did not really understand. When those were finally installed more or less correctly, some of the fixes I had invented were broken.

The result is what you see now. There are quite a few posts that have missing attachments that are still intact on the old site. I do not really know how many there are. It is fairly easy to find them on the old site since the post id codes are the same. The process that seems to work best is to navigate to the old site and open the images, then download them to my computer and re-insert them in the post here. Sometimes old invalid references must also be deleted from the post on this site.

I think all the moderators and admins are able to do this and, as Steven says, he has done quite a few himself.

I do not know a better way to do it.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Here is another thread where most of the images are missing.
A Possibly Unique Howard

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Here is another thread where most of the images are missing.
A Possibly Unique Howard

I did a bit of editing on your posts in that thread to recover the images. I have not been able to come up with any automatic mechanism/ When you click on the links they do display in a new window. If yo right click on the image when displayed, you have the option to copy its address (in Chrome at least). That address can be used with the VIA URL button below the edit window to introduce the image. You can name the file when you capture it also. Alternatively, you may just copy and paste it into the post. The background process shuld convert those large images into thumbnails with links fairly quickly.

You can also save the image to your workstation and load it again. Sorry that I have nothing more elegant, but the pictures do not appear to be lost.

 

[KurtinSA]

None of the attachments in the first post show for me...I get a NAWCC Message Board error. I'm running Win10 with Edge browser.

Kurt

 

[Jerry Treiman]

I have the same result on my Google Pixel ... Message Board Error when clicking image links in first post.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Do you see the pictures in my previous post in this thread? When I navigate to the original thread I see pictures, but not used in the preferred way. I see the same on my iPhone as on my laptop but I am running Chrome on both. I will take a quick look with Jane's Mac 20.

edit............

The pictures above show up on Jane's computer also running Safari.

 

[KurtinSA]

Tom -

I see that image in post #3. But nothing from post #1.

Kurt

 

[Jane McIntyre]

Jane cannot see the pictures either. Apparently Tom's elevated privileges is affecting something.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

I repaired the posts by downloading the pictures that show up when I click on the old links and re-inserting them as our new attachments.

 

[KurtinSA]

!!

Kurt

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Most or all of the images are missing from these two threads:

My latest Waltham-Howard
A pair of seldom seen Waltham-Howards

Thanks.

 

[Tom McIntyre]

Jerry, I think these are repaired but I could not find Luis' images and the thread reference in your first post does not lead to anything. If you remember what it was and can post the reference here I can fix that.

The second thread might have gotten mixed up, so please check it.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Jerry, I think these are repaired but I could not find Luis' images and the thread reference in your first post does not lead to anything. If you remember what it was and can post the reference here I can fix that.

The second thread might have gotten mixed up, so please check it.

Latest Waltham-Howard thread:
The thread I was referring to in post #1 may have been this one -
Waltham 16-size split 3/4-plate
Unfortunately I did not save Luis’ images. I have older images of his watch, but the images are not mine to share as they were from an eBay listing years earlier.

Pair of Seldom Seen ...:
post #3 - the second image (with milled bridge) is not correct. It should be this one -


Thanks, Tom, for your efforts.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Here is another thread with missing images:
Waltham-Howard 16-size bridge models
missing images in posts #1, #18 (2nd attachment), #23

 

[Jerry Treiman]

The Riverside - Waltham's most popular movement grade
Some images are there, some only by links, and some dead links.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

The Riverside - Waltham's most popular movement grade
Some images are there, some only by links, and some dead links.

I have corrected (I hope) posts 1 - 3. Please look at them to see if they are indeed correct. I gave up on post # 4; too much confusion, even in the post as it appears on v-Bulletin. Better to let someone else have a go at that.

 

[Jerry Treiman]

Thanks, Steven. Posts 1-3 look good. Maybe Tom can fix post #4.

I also see that a lot of the photos in Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (linked in post #3) do not display.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

I also see that a lot of the photos in Waltham's Riverside grade -- the 12-size variants (linked in post #3) do not display.

In this thread, I reattached the photos for posts, 1, 2, 4, and 9, which seemed to be the ones missing attachments. Again, please double check