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Dugald McIntosh

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This gong has 8 chime rods and comes from an unbranded German granddaughter clock with Westminster chimes.
It appears to have something badly stamped into the metal, which I cannot read.
I am hoping it would help identify the movement, pictures attached.
I have been told the movement it looks most like Schatz, Kienzle, or D.R.G.M but I would like to find out for sure.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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JTD

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It appears to have something badly stamped into the metal, which I cannot read
Your photo is upside down, but on turning it round I can see the numeral 1. I don't think this will enable anyone to identify the gong, but you never know.

I have been told the movement it looks most like Schatz, Kienzle, or D.R.G.M but I would like to find out for sure.
There are people here who can identify unmarked movements from the design layout, so I am sure someone will be along to do so.

D.R.G.M. is not a maker's name. It stands for Deutsches Gebrauchsmuster, a kind of registration but less than a patent. If the DRGM number is present, it can be used to identify the maker.

JTD
 

Dugald McIntosh

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Your photo is upside down, but on turning it round I can see the numeral 1. I don't think this will enable anyone to identify the gong, but you never know.



There are people here who can identify unmarked movements from the design layout, so I am sure someone will be along to do so.

D.R.G.M. is not a maker's name. It stands for Deutsches Gebrauchsmuster, a kind of registration but less than a patent. If the DRGM number is present, it can be used to identify the maker.

JTD
Great thanks, sadly I don't see any numbers on it
 

J. A. Olson

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It resembles a Schatz movement but Schatz and most German clock companies sourced gongs from specialty makers such as Hengstler in Aldingen or Urgos in Schwenningen. Only a handful of companies are known to have made their own gongs and it was this practice of leasing out parts' manufacture to suppliers that allowed the German companies to keep costs down and compete so vigorously in the global market.

The stamping is just a stock code for the gong manufacturer and means nothing to anyone else. This smaller gong block was ideal for the smaller floor-standing cases where a larger block wouldn't fit. The case is British and is very typical of what was being made during the 1930's with the Art Deco symmetrical patterning.
 

Dugald McIntosh

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It resembles a Schatz movement but Schatz and most German clock companies sourced gongs from specialty makers such as Hengstler in Aldingen or Urgos in Schwenningen. Only a handful of companies are known to have made their own gongs and it was this practice of leasing out parts' manufacture to suppliers that allowed the German companies to keep costs down and compete so vigorously in the global market.

The stamping is just a stock code for the gong manufacturer and means nothing to anyone else. This smaller gong block was ideal for the smaller floor-standing cases where a larger block wouldn't fit. The case is British and is very typical of what was being made during the 1930's with the Art Deco symmetrical patterning.
How interesting! Many thanks
 

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