Please help me find out who made this clock.

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  1. Lesley1l

    Lesley1l Registered User

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    20190915_134634.jpg 20190915_134638.jpg 20190915_134634.jpg 20190915_134638.jpg Hi Everyone,
    I recently inherited this clock from my father. I would like to find out who the maker was, what the star pattern and numbers on the back mean and any other information, please? I know it was passed down through my family from relatives in Austria. An opinion on whether or not I should get it repaired would be appreciated too.
    Thank you for taking the time to look at my post.
    Lesley1l

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  2. new2clocks

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    Welcome to the board, Lesley.

    The trademark on the backboard of your movement is that of Adolph Stern, an Austrian wholesaler / retailer / case maker of clocks.

    Since there appears to be a name of a retailer on the dial, I would say that Stern wholesaled the clock and the name of the person on the dial retailed the clock. Please provide a better picture of the dial.

    In order to identify the manufacturer of the clock, we will need to see clear pictures of the back of the movement. Your clock will most likely be Austrian or German.

    Regards.
     
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    A correction to my response, above - "The trademark on the backboard of your movement" should read "The trademark on the backboard of your case".:oops:

    Regards.
     
  4. JTD

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    Yes, as new2clocks says, this logo was the mark of Adolf (I believe not Adolph) Stern, who was active in Wien (VIenna) at the close of the 19th beginning of the 20th century.

    The name on the dial is sadly so out of focus that even enlarged it is almost impossible to decipher. The name of the town below seems to be Steyr, but the 'r' seems to have been rubbed off together (I think) with the last few letters of the name above. Vienna is of course in Austria and so is Steyr, so it would be quite consistent with the family story of it coming from Austria.

    Please post a clear sharp photo of the dial and perhaps we can work out whose name in on the dial.

    JTD
     
  5. Lesley1l

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    20200517_133137.jpg Hello everyone,
    Thank you for your help.
    I have attached a photo of the dial as requested.
    Any information would be appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Lesley1l

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  6. zedric

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    Hi Lesley. What is being asked for is a picture of the clock movement. As per the above, the name on the dial will be the retailer, although someone here may be familiar enough to be able to track that down for you as well
     
  7. JTD

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    Hi Lesley,

    Thank you for posting the close-ups of the dial. The town was definitely STEYR, which is in the Austrian province of Oberösterreich. The name begins HOCHHA... but unfortunately the rest is missing. Judging by the spacing of the lettering, it must be a fairly short name and names with HH in the middle are fairly uncommon. It is just possible that the first letter could be a rather poorly formed K. However, this is largely academic, since, as has been said, the name is most likely that of the retailer.

    If you can post a photo of the back of the movement, we might see a maker's name or mark on the back plate.

    JTD
     
  8. Lesley1l

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    Thank you so much for your help.
    How do I get to the back of the movement?
    Any tips please? I don't want to break it.
     
  9. JTD

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    Unhook the pendulum first. Then look to see how the the movement is secured in the case. It may very likely have a metal bracket on which the movement is held with two knurled screws, one on either side. If you unscrew them, the movement will slide out forwards.

    If there is something different, show us some photos, but I suspect you will be able to see for yourself how it is fixed in the case.

    JTD
     
  10. Steven Thornberry

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    "Hochhaus" is noted as a surname, though apparently very uncommon.
     
  11. JTD

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    Yes, it is and I did wonder about it, but thought it looked a bit too long. Having looked again, I think it could fit, but, as you say, it is very uncommon,

    JTD
     
  12. Lesley1l

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    Thank you everyone.
    Do you think this clock could be from HAU or HAC?
    I've seen on another thread a catalogue that has images of clocks with their model numbers.
    Is the model number on my clock the 1100 on the back of the case?
     
  13. JTD

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    I doubt it. But if we can see the back of the movement, we may be able to know.

    I don't think so. This is likely to be Stern's inventory number or similar.

    JTD
     
  14. Lesley1l

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    Hi everyone,
    Thank you for your help. I have attached images of the stamps on the back of the clock.
    Lesley1l

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  15. JTD

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    This is the mark of Gustav Becker. I believe this mark was used from around 1904 but there are others who will be able to date your clock more exactly by the serial number.

    JTD
     
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    According to the extensive research by John Hubby; based on the Trademark and Serial Number, I believe this clock was produced in 1913 at the Braunau (Bohemia) works.
    1913: 618901 1914: 657501 (serial number represents the 1st clock produced in the given year).
     
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  17. JTD

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    I was trying to find John Hubby's serial numbers listing but couldn't find it. Where did you find them?

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  18. Royce

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    JTD,
    Under "Post Your Gustav Becker Clocks Here", post #77 has the latest update that I have found, which is Jan 8, 2019.
     
  19. JTD

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    Many thanks - that's what I was looking for.

    JTD
     

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