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Pinwheel Jewelers Regulator - Identification?

Barnacle_boy

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can anyone help me identify my latest buy. I think its missing the base as it looks like it was attached to something from the bottom. I gigantic bracket was added so it could hang on the wall. The dial is 12" in dia.

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jkfabulos

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This is a generic regulator not produced by any of the common US manufacturers. It is shown as both a wall and floor model in the Mammoth Wholesale Jewelers of America catalog
from 1894.
It is missing both a top and a bottom.
Show on page #172 in the Brown book #2 published by Roy Ehrhardt.
 
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Uhralt

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It looks French to me. The iron case around the movement is very similar to a Comtoise clock. Also, the way to hold the hour hand with the square washer that needs to be turned into a groove of the hour cannon is typical for a Comtoise clock.

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Barnacle_boy

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This is a generic regulator not produced by any of the common US manufacturers. It is shown as both a wall and floor model in the Mammoth Wholesale Jewelers of America catalog
from 1894.
It is missing both a top and a bottom.
Show on page #172 in the Brown book #2 published by Roy Ehrhardt.
--Do you know how to find out if we have that book in our Library for check out with the NAWCC?
 

Barnacle_boy

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It looks French to me. The iron case around the movement is very similar to a Comtoise clock. Also, the way to hold the hour hand with the square washer that needs to be turned into a groove of the hour cannon is typical for a Comtoise clock.

Uhralt
I thought the same thing, but the case is made from solid hardwoods and not veneered soft woods. My dad though it was American, but the chamfered square hand retaining washers for both the hour and minute hands(yes, there is a retaining washer for both) has thrown us for a loop...
 

Barnacle_boy

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This is a generic regulator not produced by any of the common US manufacturers. It is shown as both a wall and floor model in the Mammoth Wholesale Jewelers of America catalog
from 1894.
It is missing both a top and a bottom.
Show on page #172 in the Brown book #2 published by Roy Ehrhardt.
-I just got off the phone with a librarian with the NAWCC Library and they found a "Book of Clocks #2" by Roy Ehrhardt and the page 172 that has the pictures like you described from the Mammoth Wholesale Jewelers. She is going to scan the page and email it to me.
I will let you know if it is a match. Thank you very much for your help!
 

Uhralt

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I thought the same thing, but the case is made from solid hardwoods and not veneered soft woods. My dad though it was American, but the chamfered square hand retaining washers for both the hour and minute hands(yes, there is a retaining washer for both) has thrown us for a loop...
It is possible that the movement was imported from France and cased in the USA.

Uhralt
 

Barnacle_boy

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Found it... #46 Wall hanging.. Swiss Movement. Thanks to the help of the Librarian and jkfabulos. See the attached pdf from the NAWCC Library.
 

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The great majority of these used Swiss movements.
 

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