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Robert Ling

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I don't believe it is a later #2 with a dating of 1915. It looks to me like an earlier #1 with the reverse painted lower glass and a seconds bit. That is unless I am seeing shadows instead of the glass....

I was thinking the same thing, as I though late #2's were from the 1920's.
I'll enlarge the clock in the shot and see what it looks like.
 

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Bingo, you nailed it Jim. It looks like there is something above the seconds bit too...?
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The # 1 i posted is from Antique clock price guide.. And it has the moon hands, the clock in question may not ?

So they made an early # 2 that is simular ?
 

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Most of the older style #2's with the front hanging pendulums, weight board and painted glass did not have a seconds bit...the #1's did have a seconds bit...I believe one year although it might have been two, at the end of that style, the #2's also had a seconds bit. I don't believe these movements were marked..... Most #1's had the round movement but the ones with back hanging pendulums and finials had a version of the #62 movement.
As for the possibility of Regulator on the dial...I have never seen one but I know a few of the other Seth early clocks did have such writing...was just guessing since it looks like writing....
 

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1892 assistant secretary of Navy, Teddy Roosevelt.
Can anyone ID the calendar clock.... is it an Ithaca ?
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Robert: Since TR was from NY, the Ithaca connection is quite possible. It is difficult (for me) to ID this particular clock, however. If I were to take a guess, I might call it the No. 1, Regulator. However, that clock was a 4-foot wall clock, and I'm not sure that the clock in your picture is that large or even a wall clock.

I should mention that my comparisons are with the catalogue picture in Tran's calendar clock book.
 

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There seem to have been two styles called the No. 1 Regulator. This one is smaller and looks like the clock (image from Antiqueclockspriceguide.com):
 

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1892 assistant secretary of Navy, Teddy Roosevelt.
Can anyone ID the calendar clock.... is it an Ithaca ?
If you contact the Theodore Roosevelt birthplace (click here) or Sagamore Hill (click here) they may be able to tell you if they have any archival material where it is mentioned. I know they have lots of photos, but I don't recall seeing the clock at either historical estate.
 

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Photo cir 1915.... Platt city Missouri
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I received the original copy of this picture, and with magnification you can really see the details in the photo.
The calendars are dated 12/1915 & 1/1916.
I'll do more with it later, but I think I might be able to read what it says on the clock dial...and it does have moon hands, and no seconds bit.
 

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Update on the above photo..... I couldn't make out what it say's on the dial as one of the hands is blocking it.
I can tell it's doesn't say regulator on the dial ( it does on the lower glass )
Best guess is it's a bussiness name.

I can also see the cord for the phone the little girl is holding...it's all twisted up under the desk... that brought back memories..... of twisted phone cords and how were all cordless now.
There are ink wells on the desk and the gut typing is sitting at a roll top desk will a pullout for his typewriter.

It would be cool to own that exact clock today and have this photo to go with it.
 

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Here's wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season....maybe Santa will bring you an nice Old Clock or Watch if your Good.

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I received the original copy of this picture, and with magnification you can really see the details in the photo.
The calendars are dated 12/1915 & 1/1916.
I'll do more with it later, but I think I might be able to read what it says on the clock dial...and it does have moon hands, and no seconds bit.

Some of the earlier ST No. 2's had no seconds bit; maybe this is one, but I can't myself make out the details sufficiently.
 

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. . . . but how high was the ceiling in that picture? Clock looks like it's about ten foot up the wall and anther ten feet above it!
 

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The office in the photo scottie may have been in one corner of the Platte County Courthouse.

High ceilings were quite common in that period, especially in municipal buildings.

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A likely location.
 

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Good Call, Les
The windows are a match. You can even see the wall space from the corner of the building to the windows matches the windows of the court house on the outside.
I was also going to say that the books look like law books ?
You could even line up the date on the calendar with the time of day on the clock and the sun in the windows for the location of the office.

I'd say the outer right front corner of the building by the wall space ?
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Yep, in the days before air conditioning, high ceilings gave the heat somewhere to go, for what little good it would do.
 

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Why is Agnes Ayres, silent-era motion picture star, holding a Columbus Clock? This picture is from one of a series of collectible cards distributed in boxes of chocolates by Chocolates Riucord of Barcelona. The heading is "Glories of the Film," so the series is of film stars, not clock stars.

The translation of the text on the reverse (modified from Google Translate) is:


Series A No. 8
AGNES AYRES
Agnes Ayres, star of Paramount, was born in Carbondale, mining center of the U.S. state of Illinois. Agnes Ayres made her debut in the world of art as a film actress, not having appeared first like many others in the theater. For some time she worked at the small studio “Essanay." Going next to "Vitagraph" studio she then went to "Paramount", making her debut in that company performing various productions with the late Wallace Reid. Among the other films of this beautiful actress, are "Forbidden Fruit," "The Affairs of Anatole," "Cappy Ricks," and "The Sheik," the latter working with Rudolf Valenino.

Each series consists of 20 cards

 

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Here is a scarce Ansonia street clock. Looks like a poor street to have such a fancy clock! Are any of these still around? This is only the second one I've ever seen in a photograph.
 

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Sadly the Ansonia clock is gone but Malmberg's Jewelry is still there at 406 Main Street West Ashland, WI 54806. A simple Google search. The tourer in the the background is circa 1910.


 

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If you look closely at the photo, the jewelry store is faced with stone (a cut above the wood siding common then). Also the sign on the side exterior wall says 'Post Office' which was apparently adjacent to, or part of the establishment.
 

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I love the pictures. I'm a fan of the old decor elements and of course the time pieces. One thing though, I'm sure glad I don't have to dress like those guys. :)
 

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I'm trying to determine what the guy is doing to the street clock. It looks like a broom that he is holding. Is he "dusting" the clock, or changing the time by pushing the minute hand with the broom?

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It appears to me that the gentleman is showing his daily duties of keeping the windows "squeaky" clean; including the glass on the clock. It's a daily ritual at respectable jewelry stores. The tool may be a brush or a squeegee.

I recall in my school days friend, Dave Chapman scrubbed Finch Jewelers' windows every day before class.
 

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Les:

You may well be correct, but I swear that there it doesn't look as if there is any glass on that dial. Notice the very distinct shadows for each of the hands, including what looks like a second hand at the 5, but there is not even a hint of a reflection from glass.

I think he has a push broom. The head is too wide, I believe, for a squeegee.

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The thing that looks like a second hand is the counterweight for the minute hand. I also think it looks as though there is no glass, and that the minute hand projects too far for a flat glass to fit. Perhaps Ansonia's sidewalk clocks were made without glass. Tower clock dials were made that way.
 

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Eckmill is that the Dave Chapman who used to post on this mb.
 

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This picture is taken from a forum on www.antiquesockets.com, a great web site if you are interested in antique lighting. The picture shows a hanging Mission-style clock behind the counter.
 

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Hi, I just wanted to put this clock into its historic context, and this seemed a good place to do it. First picture shows a Scottish tall case clock, circa 1840. Second picture shows the Liendo Plantation which is the origin of this clock. Liendo Plantation was built in 1853. First picture shows it in my country house, built in 1868. My house, the Knolle-Schraeder House, is about 12 miles from the Lendo Plantation. Location is outside of Houston, Texas about 60 miles.

I purchased the clock from the Hayslip family, who were owners of the plantation around 1940-60. Prior to them, Elizabet Ney and her husband Dr Edward Montgomery owned the plantation from 1873-1911. Elizabet Ney is a world renowned sculpress, her museum is in Austin, Tx. The Hayslip family had suggested the posibility that the clock belonged to Elizabet Ney and husband. The family does not know how the clock came into the family, but remembers the clock in the entry foyer of the plantation, when she was a child. Dr Edmond Montgomery was from Scotland, and the clock is Scottish.

My house is known for its originial wall paintings from 1868, documented by Windale Institute of the University of Texas (paintings seen in picture 1). This at least puts the clock in a context of its time and age. Third picture shows my house from the outside. Hope you enjoy the story and pictures. Charles
 

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Laumeg, your house and its grounds are story-book perfect! Are the plank walls found throughout? Was the house built all at once, or is the wing on the left older?
 

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Hi Jeremy. Yes, the house has wood plank wall throught out the house. The house ,as seen in the picture, is made of 2 houses joined together in 1900. The main house, seen to the right and where the clock is, was built in 1868 composed of 2 rooms and upper loft. The second house, to the left is older than the main house as determined by framing structures underneith. Its walls are covered by wall board. Earnst Knolle, early founder of Texas built this house for his son and new wife. He owned several saw mills and thus the wood plank walls seen in the picture are phenominal. They are 17 feet, one piece, no seams, made of cedar. The palor shown in the pictue is 17x17.
Research done by Windale Institue report additional paintings in the back room of the house, but these have been covered by paint. I do hope to work to uncover some of this. The parlor paintings were preserved because in the past they were covered by wall paper instead of being painted over. They were discovered in 1981 when the house was being prepared for moving. Hope this information helps understand the story. Charles

Thought that I would add a picture of what the house looked like in 1981 Scan001.jpg
 
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In my continuing perusual of the antique lighting web site mentioned above, I found this amazing picture. It looks like a bicycle shop, but notice also: rolltop desk, two-box telephone, early gas lights, fancy stove, multiple stuffed deer heads and a two-headed cow, and a plain, modern-looking chain-link fence inside the store. Oh, also a clock on the wall.
 

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Jeremy:

I just did a web search and learned that the first chain-link fencing was installed in the U.S. in 1841.

Interesting store!

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This picture is taken from a forum on www.antiquesockets.com, a great web site if you are interested in antique lighting. The picture shows a hanging Mission-style clock behind the counter.

It's funny how my collecting hobbies are connected. I collect lamps, but was led to that site from the antique fan forum which I am on as I collect those as well. And now it shows up here as well.
 

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It's funny how my collecting hobbies are connected. I collect lamps, but was led to that site from the antique fan forum which I am on as I collect those as well. And now it shows up here as well.
You are correct as its quite interesting how collecting of items cross path. I also collect early pre1890 incandescent lighting to include lightbulbs, sockets, switches, wooden fuse blocks and anything rare and unusual that is electrical oriented. I also collect early fans but only the ones before 1905 or earlier. Then now its the huge wall and floor american jewelers regulators that have peaked my interest.
 

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Hi Everyone,

Here are some photos from "the Tasteful Interlude, American Interiors Through the Camera's Eye, 1860-1917", by William Seale, Praeger Publishers, Inc. 1975.

The numbers that appear at the bottom are page numbers. Others are the numbers of the photos.

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Still more:
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I thought that this was particularly interesting because the clock is suspended in front of a mirror. It also looks to be part of a set w/the sconces on each side.
 

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Here is the interior of one of the many Carnegie public libraries built in New York at the turn of the 20th century. This one is the Park Slope (Brooklyn) Branch. I think the clock on the wall is a Welch "Verdi." For comparison is a picture of a "Verdi" from Antiqueclockspriceguide.com.

What do you think? I couldn't find any other models with the same half-round molding around both the dial and the case drop, the pointed case bottom, and a seconds dial. Winding holes on the Verdis varied slightly, with some midway between the center hole and the numerals IIII and IIIV and some closer to the IIII and IIIV. This might be because the Verdi came in both a T & S and a double-wind time-only version.

The library interior is being restored, and I would like to find a clock to match the original.

Opening day is (finally) this Thursday, and I hung the clock today, on the opposite wall from its original location. Discussion in previous posts led me to conclude the original was a S.T. World, but the replacement is a Welch, Spring time-only Verdi. It will have to do. It will require three steps up to wind--I'll do it for a while, but hopefully a librarian will take over the job.

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