Picked up at a sale any idea on maker and date

[claussclocks]

I found this languishing at an estate sale and decided to bring it home. Appears to be of older design but it has no trademark anywhere on it.
The number 77725 on the lower corner of the back plate and on the bottom of the pendulum are its only markings.
The dial resmbles a Phillip Haas if you look at the curling on the tail of the 7 but that's no sure thing.

Any suggestions or input would be welcome.

Excuse my messy bench. I didn't take time to photograph in a clean spot and I had to leave shortly

Thank You

David P. Clauss

 

[KurtinSA]

Phillip Haas never made 400-day clocks...mentions of Haas in the repair guide should be changed to Hauck.

I don't have much to add. I have two clocks with a similar dial and pendulum with leader. But beyond that, there are differences. My clocks are a Kienzle (yours is not) and a Huber, which has a different back plate. My guess would be that yours is a JUF. Interesting that the adjuster weights are so far out...the wrong suspension spring must have been used.

Kurt

 

[claussclocks]

Phillip Haas never made 400-day clocks...mentions of Haas in the repair guide should be changed to Hauck.

I don't have much to add. I have two clocks with a similar dial and pendulum with leader. But beyond that, there are differences. My clocks are a Kienzle (yours is not) and a Huber, which has a different back plate. My guess would be that yours is a JUF. Interesting that the adjuster weights are so far out...the wrong suspension spring must have been used.

Kurt

Thanks for the update. I was going by the photos and associated names as you may have guessed. I haven't done anything with it yet but I'm sure I will have to check that suspension.

Thanks

DPC

 

[KurtinSA]

Does the pendulum have a matching number? What does the bottom of the pendulum look like?

Kurt

 

[Ingulphus]

A nice find! I also have two similar models, the one below and another with thin fluted columns. I believe this one is a JUF, but it's not in a good place to turn around and photograph the back plate. After I first received it and serviced it, it was one of the best timekeepers of all my torsion clocks, until something broke the dome from above and got small bits of glass in the movement. I disassembled it and gave it another thorough cleaning (and a new dome), but now it stops at about the same time every couple of days, and I've been far too busy with the "real world" to take it apart again - it may be the motion works, or a tooth that was deformed by a bit of glass. Still a favorite clock, tall with a simple elegance, and watching the twist extension revolving is very addictive!

 

[etmb61]

I found this languishing at an estate sale and decided to bring it home. Appears to be of older design but it has no trademark anywhere on it.
The number 77725 on the lower corner of the back plate and on the bottom of the pendulum are its only markings.
The dial resmbles a Phillip Haas if you look at the curling on the tail of the 7 but that's no sure thing.

Any suggestions or input would be welcome.

Excuse my messy bench. I didn't take time to photograph in a clean spot and I had to leave shortly

Thank You

David P. Clauss

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That's a JUF clock. I have this one just like it, number 64014.



Eric

 

[claussclocks]

Does the pendulum have a matching number? What does the bottom of the pendulum look like?

Kurt

As stated above the same number is on the bottom of the pendulum.

 

[claussclocks]

That's a JUF clock. I have this one just like it, number 64014.

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Eric

Sure looks like it. Do you have any idea of when it was made and what the suspension spring thickness is.

 

[etmb61]

Sure looks like it. Do you have any idea of when it was made and what the suspension spring thickness is.

I would say it was made sometime on 1908 from the sparse info that I have. As for springs, for any disk pendulum I'd start with 0.004", but you might need to thin a 0.0045" to get it right.

Eric

 

[Schatznut]

David, please don't apologize for the condition of your bench! A messy bench is a busy bench. And a busy bench is a happy bench.