This seems to be the place to post this since Tom's made a lot of great changes based on this thread. Maybe I should have started a new thread, but I wasn't sure. Any progress with the orientation problem? https://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?117864-Help-removing-Ithaca-4-Calendar-Clock-Movement In that thread, the thumbnails view sideways, but the expanded image is upright. JPEGsnoop shows that the photo was taken with an iPhone4. The thumbnail photo copied from the post itself does not show a camera name or anything in JPEGsnoop. The first click on the thumbnail displays sideways in a pop-up window, clicking on the photo in the pop-up window opens a new tab in firefox, which displays the photo upright.