I have been asked to clean up this 1161 with an 84 as a date stamp. A previous repair person - about 10 years ago - serviced the clock, but the chime and strike stopped working about 2 years later and have not worked since. The time and strike weights are the usual 6 1/2 pounders, but the chime weight on this clock is 11 1/2 pounds and about 50% larger diameter - and the chimes still will not initiate or sustain. I have never seen a GF clock where the visible weights are not the same size. I am wondering if the 1984 date means this may be a Hermle with the plated pivots? What is the proper weight for the chime side? The pivots and pivot holes are black and most of the pinions have black grease all over them as well. The shop that serviced it locally has not been in business for several years and the owner has no idea what was done for a house call at a cost of about 200 dollars. My guess is a squirt or two of something and then they swapped out the chime weight to try to overcome the damage and make it run? The clock keeps great time the owners says. The replacement movements are about 450. I am not sure this owner will want to go that route - especially at Christmas time. They are fond of the clock, but said they don't want to put much more into it. Perhaps a cheaper movement with just the Westminster could be swapped if the dial posts would match up?