Patek Authentication

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  1. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User

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    Attached are photos of a watch I owned that I believed to be 100% authentic and correct Patek Philippe.

    What do other members think - anything wrong or incorrect with this watch?

    Thanks,
    Bryan

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  2. Bryan Eyring

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    As best I can tell, unsigned movement & dial are correct for these early stem-winders. Movement design appears correct for the period too, with signature features intact.

    Serial number is 12050
     
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  3. Ethan Lipsig

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    I believe your watch is an absolutely correct early Patek Philippe. You didn't say how big it is, but I am nearly positive it is lady's-size. I have a very similar one, but with a fancier dial, #18,992, aTiffany PL signed by Tiffany and Patek Philippe only on the cuvette.
     
  4. Ethan Lipsig

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    Bryan, here are photos of my similar PP.
    z PP Ladies fancy dial.jpg IMG_4148.JPG IMG_4152.JPG IMG_4156.JPG IMG_4160.JPG

    Do you know what the "M & B" mark means? I couldn't find it in the Microlisk database. IMG_4153.JPG
     
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  5. roughbarked

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  6. Fred Hansen

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    Absolutely appears a correct Patek Philippe to me.

    It has very much the same movement layout as Patek Philippe serial numbers 9793 and 16614 pictured below, sold in recent years by Jones-Horan auction ...

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  7. John Pavlik

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    Brian, It is the real deal... Not a lot of collectors are into these early Pateks.. but I am sure you know
    That already ..

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  8. Dr. Jon

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    It looks like a real Patek to me also. I saw it for sale recently. Patek Philippe can authenticate it to make certain. it has all the signature features of 1860's era Patek Philippe watches.
     
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    Hi roughbarked,

    It isn't a UK hallmark, and the cartouche is a different shape anyway, so it's most likely the Swiss case maker.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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