Original or replacement?

[Paddypup]

Hello. Got an old ansonia patent brass clock. Took the movement out to have a closer look.
does this movement look original or is it a replacement? No stamp just a patent date.
Thanks

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Without seeing the case, including label (if present), I'm not sure we can actually answer your question about the originality of the movement. The patent is likely the following:

US183094

 

[Steven Thornberry]

I remembered that the above patent came up earlier this year in regard to a clock with a signed H.J. Davies movement. Davies became General Manager of Ansonia in January 1877.

H. J. Davies mantel clock | NAWCC Forums

 

[Paddypup]

I remembered that the above patent came up earlier this year in regard to a clock with a signed H.J. Davies movement. Davies became General Manager of Ansonia in January 1877.

H. J. Davies mantel clock | NAWCC Forums

Hello. I will get some pics of the case tonight. Thanks

 

[Willie X]

I'm curious as to 'why' you would think it is a replacement?? Willie X

 

[Paddypup]

I'm curious as to 'why' you would think it is a replacement?? Willie X

Hi willie. From reading these threads and getting information from you guys I start to notice or think I notice stuff.,
The plates seemed thin, the lack of a makers name. Brass seems less substantial than some of the old movements I have from this period.
Anyway Ill post the case tonight and you guys will know. Thanks

 

[Paddypup]

Here is the case and dial with hands

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Here is the case and dial with hands

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Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was in business from 1869 to 1877. I can see no reason, from these pictures, to doubt that the movement is original to the clock case. In January 1877, the Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was consolidated into the (second) Ansonia Clock Co., of which H.J. Davies was the General Manager.

 

[Paddypup]

Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was in business from 1869 to 1877. I can see no reason, from these pictures, to doubt that the movement is original to the clock case. In January 1877, the Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was consolidated into the (second) Ansonia Clock Co., of which H.J. Davies was the General Manager.

Thanks Steven. I have the movement back in and running. Appreciate the help.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was in business from 1869 to 1877. I can see no reason, from these pictures, to doubt that the movement is original to the clock case. In January 1877, the Ansonia Brass and Copper Co. was consolidated into the (second) Ansonia Clock Co., of which H.J. Davies was the General Manager.

Correction. I mistyped a date in the above statement. January 1877 should be January 1878, when the second Ansonia Clock Co. officially began business.