Old Engravers Wax on Longcase Dial can it be re-heated in an oven?

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  1. Mark SA

    Mark SA Registered User

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    I have a old long case dial with engraved numbers.
    The engravers wax has been overheated at some stage, and has some bubbles in it.
    Can the wax be re-heated perhaps in a oven to allow the wax to flow and level again, and if so at what temperature will it melt. I do not have access to new wax here in South Africa.

    Thank you

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    new wax can be purchased over here and sent to South Africa, however you can heat the back of the chapter ring with a local flame and encourage the wax to flow.

    It would have been done originally with not much more than a candle.
     
  3. Mark SA

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    Thank you will give a small burner a try. At 40.00UD$ for postage and the strong possibility that the parcel will get "lost" in the mail here in SA. I will pass on the shipping to SA.
    The last parcel from Time-savers was registered mail with a tracking No and to 7 months to get here. Lol
     
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    Just looked it up, I could post it to you for £9.25. If you are in a difficult area perhaps it could be posted to somebody in a city for you to pick up at some point? I've only posted stuff from South Africa not to South Africa and it was a while ago.
     
  5. Mark SA

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    Thank you for the offer.
    I am in Johannesburg.
    The problem is here .
    The parcels are stolen from the Post Office by the staff.
    I have a Sister In Dorset , if I find I need the wax.
    I will be in touch and have it sent to her, she is coming out to SA Next year.
    Thanks again.

    Mark
     
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    The "wax" is normally just very thick coloured shellac. You could always try making some yourself with shellac and black pigment.
     
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    It's a bit more than that, look up black sealing wax formular on Google, you will find a few traditional recipes.
     
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    Actually, sealing wax and dial wax are not the same. Sealing wax needs to be partially flexible, and it melts at a much lower temperature.
     
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    The sealing wax I've seen is not flexible,and I'm pretty sure the black sticks I've seen for dial wax are the same.

    Both are made using shellac. Both will melt with a candle. The whole idea of sealing wax is that it will fracture if disturbed.
     
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    I do have black sealing wax , will give it a try.

    Thanks
     
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    Thank you for the info.
     
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    I was reading a copy of Brittens I think it was on google this morning and they said it was black sealing wax. They were talking about using pumice for the graining and for removing the excess, then silvering then heating the chapter ring again to get the wax with a fresh smooth finish followed by lacquering.
     
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    Thank you.
     

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