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  1. Selenaserval

    Selenaserval Registered User

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    So now there are two cuckoo clocks in my collection. I just bought an old Albert Schwab that runs well. It's missing a detail from the upper left roof line, but I'll carve a replacement. Does anyone know how old it might be? Thanks so much for your input.

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  2. JTD

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    We really need to see the movement.

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  3. Selenaserval

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    Thank you JTD. I should have posted more pictures.

    Cuckoo Albert Schwab movement.jpg Cuckoo Albert Schwab gong door.jpg Cuckoo Albert Schwab mounted on cabinet.jpg
     
  4. JTD

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    Well, we can see that the movement is a Regula (Josef Burger Söhne), nowadays the most common manufacturer. But I am wondering about the extra holes we can see in the case. But I am not a cuckoo clock specialist - other will have more ideas for you than I.

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    Ok, thank you so much JTD. Now I am wondering about the extra holes in the case! Lol :)
     
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    Looks like the Regula is a replacement movement.
     
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    Thank you very much Roughbarked. The dealer who sold me this clock said she bought it from an estate and was told that it was from the 30's.
     
  8. harold bain

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    Yes the movement is much newer than the case. Shame someone thought replacing the original would be a good idea.
     
  9. Selenaserval

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    Alas, all I have is a nice looking old clock case, and a newer movement to be sold or placed in a different and more appropriate clock case. So I will attempt to find an older movement for this case if I can determine what type it should have. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Harold Bain, and all who have provided me with information so far.
     
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    Last night I removed the ancient torn leather from the bellow on the left side and replaced it with paper from a priority envelope, and put a little weight on top of the bellow. It works well now. I had the clock running, but it has a number of issues, and only runs for a little while. The minute hand is loose. It cuckoos whatever number of times strikes its fancy, but mostly not at all. It never cuckoos on the half hour. It doesn't gong, (it may only need an adjustment to the striker arm). The bird doesn't come out, and the door opens every now and then. On a happier note, my Hubert Herr clock is in perfect running condition and everything works - - knock on wood. ;)
     
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    That's a nicely carve case, and like others, I think the movement is later.

    Regarding the running condition, You might want to post details in the Repair section for better replies, but I think most people who frequent the repair section can also be found here.

    Anyway, Let's try to break it down a little. Are you familiar with setting the beat? If so, have you done any other checking of the movement for bushing wear or sticking wheels (have you cleaned or oiled the movement)?

    Have you tried with the movement out of the case. A lot of times these movements have levers in the front that can hang up on the case, especially if the movement is a replacement.

    Hopefully, we can help you get this one running like your Hubert Herr.

    Tom
     
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    Thank you Tom. I'll move over to the repair section for further assistance. Good news to report. I opened the clock case again and the wire that pushes the cuckoo door open had disconnected itself. I glued the little screw eye back into the door, and reattached the wire. I fixed the hinges on the door, and put the cuckoo lift wire into a better position. In addition, I found that the arms that lift the bellows were hanging up on each other, so I corrected their positions. I took the hands off and set them in the right position for the timing of the cuckoos. After re-hanging the clock and starting it up, it is not stopping any more, and keeping the right time. The bird comes out now and cuckoos on the hour. The Regula movement must be in pretty good shape after all. Again, many thanks for your advice. As a novice, I can't believe I got this clock running so well, and that my first bellow rebuild is functioning as it should. :)
     
  13. roughbarked

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    Believe it. You did it. :)
     
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    Thank you so much Roughbarked! :) I'm so happy - - especially when I'm in another room and I hear the older clock cuckooing, just after my Herr has gone off.
     
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    Glad to hear you were able to get it going and without too much stress (nobody needs more stress). We all start as novices. A little patience, determination and common sense is all that is necessary and it sounds like you are off to a good start.

    Tom
     
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    I think you may have a knack for this. Good job so far.
     
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    Thank you so much for the words of encouragement Tom and Harold. I'm glad I found this forum. There are some kind and knowledgeable people here.
     
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    i started as an apprentice novice...
     
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    That's because you are a dog (at least according to your profile pic).

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    Well, the incarnation before the dog was a cockroach… reincarnation doesn’t always work out how you planned! :)
     
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    Nicely done. This is the buzz of getting an old clock to work again, it's so satisfying. I'm only a few months ahead of you but it will keep getting better with the more clocks you will inevitably gather. It's a great hobby and the folks on this site are truly craftsmen willing to help.
     
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    Ah, the cuckoo buzz. Lol at least I'm in good company here, with others who understand. :) Thank you Woodlawndon.
     
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    :) Yep. It is a buzz.
     
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