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  1. rrwatch

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    I have a number of Paillard Non Magnetic watches. If there is any interest I can post some of the more unusual ones.
    Let me know.....
     
  2. Bila

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    Have also had a few nice ones Ed, sold quite a few recently. Some I probably should not have, but had a need to finance a few new ones:). Always good to see some nice watches, so please feel free to show.
     
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    Yes post them


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  4. rrwatch

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    #4 rrwatch, Apr 13, 2018
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    Here is a 16 size Illinois "Getty" model. Its a Grade 179, 21 jewel, dating to about 1896.

    EBU 16275 Illinois Paillard Grade 179 21J OF Dial 1.jpg EBU 16275 Illinois Paillard Grade 179 21J OF Case Back.jpg EBU 16275 Illinois Paillard Grade 179 21J OF Mvt.jpg
     
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    Very nice - thanks for sharing.

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  6. kevin h

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    Here is a couple peora's under the non-magnetic name (i posted these under another heading by accident) both 15j openfaces

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  7. kevin h

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    Speaking of Peoria's , Non-magnetic must have kept them busy , here is a hunter -you can tell by the balance on the right side, I think this is the right dial picture , I have some Illinois model also , are there any Elgin Non -magnetics out there ?

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  8. Kent

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    EBU 16305 Elgin Paillard Non Mag W Co. 388 21J 16803006 OF.jpg
     
  9. Kent

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    kevin:

    I think that is an Open-Face Illinois (see 21J mvt below), rather than a Hunting Case Peoria, described as Grade K in the February 1898 ad below.

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  10. kevin h

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    Well , you guys sound like my wife - I do not need glasses , it is a computer error . You are correct it is an illinois , let me try some fresh photos , first is an illinois hunter ,a model 5 , grade 50 with a total production of 300(?),second is an illinois openface, model 6 , with an illinois dial-I could really use a dial marked pailiards non magnetic for that one ,or even a private label ! and last we have a Peoria O/face marked Non-Magnetic

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  11. rrwatch

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    There are a few Paillard movements made by Elgin, but I believe they are quite scarce. In addition to the 21 jewel Grade 388 that Kent illustrated, I know of only one other, in the same block of 10 movements. At one point both were sitting on my bench at the same time, before one had to be returned to its owner.
    We also have records of a few G M Wheeler Grade 16 size 17 jewel movements and one 18 size Grade 739 17 jewel movement.
    Data on any additional Elgin Paillard movements would be greatly appreciated, as we know very little about them.
     
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    I have been watching them for a while , and the Elgin's seem pretty scarce . I would doubt Non-magnetic watch co . had any records that survived . It seems that Swiss movements followed by Peoria made up the bulk of sales , but this is only a guess .
     
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    Anyone ever seen a NMWCo marked case?
     
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    I am unfamiliar with that one Brian , do you have one ?
     
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    I just joined the (small) club with this Peoria Palliard Non-Magnetic.

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    Here is an 18j Swiss (probably an Agassiz) and a nice 24j Illinois.

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    Great thread! I'm going to add it to the Private Label Research sticky.
     
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    Nice examples Stan and John , I have a similar swiss model . These last three examples show they had quality , a Bunn and a well jeweled swiss , even Stan's Peoria is an upper shelf watch. Are there any other Bunn model's , like 17, 19 jeweled Non-magnetics , it seemed they just jumped right to the top.
     
  19. John Cote

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    Actually, the 16s Grade 179 shown by Ed, above, may have been the highest grade of the Illinois Paillards. There are also 18s, 21j Bunn Specials in both open and hunter and I believe there are 17j Bunns too. There are 16s in Sangamo grade and perhaps, in addition to the 179, a 189.
     
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    Thanks John , so much to learn
     
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    John:

    Would you please share the serial number on this beauty? I can't quite read it clearly.
     
  22. John Cote

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    It's 1397802 Kent. I thought I had given this to you a long time ago, but maybe not. I sold this watch years ago to a guy from Central Illinois who wanted really badly.
     
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    Thanks John!
     
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