Newly purchased Gustav Becker mantle clock

R.A.J.

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I found this clock at an antique store while on vacation. I am having a bit of an issue dating the clock. The trade mark would seem to indicate 1909 or after but I cannot find reference to the serial number. Also the clock has great sound from Westminster chimes 5286C78D-9D2E-44B7-88F1-F26F788740F1.jpeg FD2EC19B-A5B9-4C2B-80D9-BF60CEA1B954.jpeg ABB7BD89-5525-49E5-8305-297F1B8C4436.jpeg 144BAAD1-2AC8-4ACA-9CA2-C20A39A9F3F9.jpeg
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John Hubby has provided dating info for Gustav Becker clocks. Yours was built in the city of Freiburg and the serial number dates the clock to the latter half of 1931. Becker originally used 7-digit numbers but in 1925, they started over and began using just 4-digit numbers. By 1932, Gustav Becker and designs were owned by Junghans.

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Thank you. I’ll make sure to look up what Mr. Hubby has as well.
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I found this clock at an antique store while on vacation. I am having a bit of an issue dating the clock. The trade mark would seem to indicate 1909 or after but I cannot find reference to the serial number. Also the clock has great sound from Westminster chimes View attachment 665108 View attachment 665109 View attachment 665110 View attachment 665111
Thanks for any help with this
R.A.J.
You are lucky to find such gem in an antique shop and even better if for a good price - I have never seen anything but a near-trash-worthy tambour… only real gem i’ve seen is on FB marketplace advertising an antique shop with a decent clock!

chimeclockfan should tell you more about its musical and movement specs.

The Whittington chimes along with Westminster should be very beautiful on this clock!

Unfortunate that the bezel is broken on this.

Edit: Here is his GB duel chime clock!
https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/post-your-gustav-becker-clocks-here.10545/post-1471220
 

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You have a fantastic clock worthy of restoration. These clocks were not previously documented in much detail so here is what I've gathered.

The first recorded reference to a 'Wewi Gong No. 16' movement dates to 1926 as a development of the existing Westminster chime movement. It was a good, high-grade movement without any chronic design flaws. It was also the first production mantel movement to have both Whittington and Westminster chimes played on rod gongs. During this time, VFU/Gustav Becker took part in a business interests group with Junghans
and HAC. On July 1st 1929, the formal "fusion" of the three -- actually Junghans absorbing the other two -- was made legally retroactive, being announced by the Schramberg city council 18 September 1930. Production of VFU/Gustav Becker movements ended in December 1932, however a stockpile of leftover movements, gongs, et al. were still being used up to 1934.

GB Wewi Gong 16 Gen 1.jpg GB Wewi Gong 16 Gen 2.jpg

Movements bear a serial number indicating the movement's chronological production number, making identification and dating easy. "At least" 4930 of these clocks are known to have been made between 1926-1932. The movement went through a number of periodic changes including the patterning of the Whittington chime and the hour strike being augmented from a single rod gong to a three rods chord.
These two photos show my other clock, numbered 4930 and the latest known example to exist. Also notice what the bezel looks like:

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Your clock has a fine enamel-finish dial which is unusual compared to most examples which have a silvered dial.
In the 1932 catalog it appears as No. 433 and could be had with different movements and case woods:

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When you set your clock to the Whittington chime - which was derived from St. Mary le Bow Church in London, England - it should sound like this:

 
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R.A.J.

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Thank you both. I am still on vacation with the clock carefully packed and I can’t wait to get home to really inspect the clock.
It is unfortunate that it is missing the bezel but hopefully I’ll be able to locate one.
Those chimes a beautiful. When I have this one up and running I’ll make sure to record the chimes.

Thanks again

R.A.J.
 

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