New purchase Double Decker Steeple Clock

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  1. Russell Dickson

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    Just picked this up very nice project clock. A double decker steeple clock purchased online. It runs and is an 8 day time and strike on the hour and the half hour, with a coil gong. I have no idea who the manufacturer is? I don't have pictures of the movement, when it arrives I will take some Got it for a very cheap price.
    It has some issues, the case appears to be vintage with its original finish, dial looks vintage, glass in the door is probably replacements. I believe double decker clocks usually have reverse painted tablets, this one has clear glass. Also no label inside, and the wrong pendulum. I also don't see finials or any spot on the case where they could have been, maybe this one didn't have finials to begin with? any thoughts? guesses at maker? be gentle......lol

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  2. Bruce Barnes

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    A very nice looking clock, I especially like the clean look it portrays.........I am curious about the hands and the rod with what may be and adjustable hammer head.
    My first thought maybe European ?
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  3. Russell Dickson

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    I am thinking the same thing. The pendulum looks German, but I thought maybe someone didn't have the correct pendulum and just used what they had
     
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    Not a period clock. Looks like a home made clock or a kit clock created well into the 20th century that sorta approximates a steeple on steeple.

    RM
     
  5. JTD

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    It reminds me of one of the kit clocks that Mason & Sullivan used to sell. They definitely had a steeple clock, though I don't remember a model which had the additions at the sides and below. But it is a long time ago and I may not have remembered all the models.

    I certainly don't think it is German.

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    #6 Russell Dickson, Jul 28, 2019
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    If it is a Mason and Sullivan I will know it when it gets here they used German movements in their repro clocks and stamped their name on them prominently. I remember them making repro pillar and scrolls, but not steeple clocks.....the plot thickens. I think if anything it could be a period case the wood has patina from some age. It could be a period case with a Korean movement in it.
     
  7. brian fisher

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    it will be interesting to see what the movement looks like.

    the hands are an obvious mismatch. the minute serpentine definitely looks modern. that ogee profile on the sides of the cabinet above the lower door would be pretty difficult to make on home shop type tools. this seems like the most unique/odd part of the cabinet. i think its proportions look pretty good. the gong looks 'murcan but i agree the pendulum appears euro and likely german. maybe it is indeed a kit of some kind. the chances are pretty good that Bob is likely on point with this one.
     
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    Looks like the "candle sticks" are missing. Also there don't appear to be any holes for them
     
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    Yeah I noticed that too. I mentioned it in my original comment. It doesnt look like it ever really had them on it. The case looks too nice to be a from a kit, but who knows it could be. I trust people opinions here. Should arrive in a couple days.
     
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    I think that probably is what happened.

    Yes, they definitely had a kit for steeple clocks, but not with all the additions that yours has.

    Yes, it does.
    Mason and Sullivan certainly didn't supply gongs like that.

    Who's Bob? I didn't see a post from any Bob but maybe I'm missing something.

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    = RM
     
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    Thank you, Steven.

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  13. Russell Dickson

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    I think the Mason and Sullivan movements that were placed in most of the repro's were Westminster chime too weren't they?
    Another observation, the strike hammer looks different than what was used on period movements too, looks modern?.
     
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    I guess we will know soon enough, you are probably right. I'm not sold on the idea of the case being from kit, it is too nice and has patina on it. I think case is likely close to period and movement was later addition.
     
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    Maybe it was made contemporaneously with the "period" examples, but I think not. That's not to say it may not have some age.

    Compare to some random pix of "period" cases with a spring driven, wagon spring and fusee movement:

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    Not really very close in many respects.

    We'll see. But I still think it's a later repro. Could still have some age?

    If made in period, the case would have cut nails and other tell-tale signs of its period of construction.

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    yeah there are some obvious differences for sure between this case and period examples. I pointed most of the differences out in my previous posts. You are probably right, interesting mystery though.
     
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    Mystery solved, looks like a modern German rack and snail movement.

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    well, darn. it does look more "home made" from this angle. its still enjoyable asthetically.
     
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    Will be a nice little repair and sell project for me. I hope to acquire a real double decker steeple this year. I have been hunting for a while now.
     

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