Marine: New Pickup- Waltham Gimbal

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  1. Barry Armstrong

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    Hi Just picked this up this week, Waltham Gymbal. Two questions. Is there someone in the Toronto area that someone could suggest I take it to for a cleaning? And it is missing the "wind" indicator dial and hand. How difficult will it be to find one?

    Thanks in advance.

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  2. Tom McIntyre

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    #2 Tom McIntyre, Jan 1, 2016
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    Your wind indicator looks fine to me. There are two forms of the device. The spot indicator on your pieces changes color when the mainspring gets down to about 1 day reserve. The dial form shows the hand and 8 day scale. Here is a slide showing both forms from the presentation "From War to Boudoir" at http://mcintyre.com/present/From War to Boudoir.pdf
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  3. Barry Armstrong

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    I've wound it once fully and didn't see any movement with the indicator:???:?
     
  4. doug sinclair

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    I have a car clock version of that Waltham with the wind indicator. Seems to me there is a rotating disc behind the dial tha turns one way during winding, and the other way when running. It appears to me that the disc might be missing.
     
  5. Tom McIntyre

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    Doug is right. That is the way it works. It is possible the disk is lost or something has come loose and it is not indicating.

    These are not particularly easy to service. The presentation I gave a pointer to shows the disassembly and reassembly of the 37 size movement. It costs me $200 to have one serviced.
     
  6. Barry Armstrong

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    If I felt comfortable with the technician, $200 is not unreasonable. If I could find someone in the Toronto area.
     
  7. harold bain

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    Contact NAWCC chapter 33 for a recommendation of a Toronto area serviceman. They have a website with contact info.
     
  8. Barry Armstrong

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    Is it possible to convert the "wind" indicator from the current rotating disc to the "wind" gauge that is graduated with the days? Would it require replacing the dial? The hardware that rotates the disc, could it be modified to work with a days disc? Any hints would be appreciated.

    This is just a fact finding quest. I'm not sure if I would want to make the conversion or not.
     
  9. Tom McIntyre

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    It would be much easier to find an original with the dial. The full dial is different so you would need to replace the dial and figure out how to asstach a hand where the rotating disk had been. Apart from being difficult, I think it would also be wrong from a collecting point of view.
     
  10. Barry Armstrong

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    I think all I will do is look for another one with the 'winder' dial with the numeric days on it and keep both.
     
  11. River rat

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    #11 River rat, Feb 12, 2016
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    If your still looking for a watchmaker in Canada I did a search of listed business in Canada from the NAWCC main site

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    Type in Canada a few will pop up
    hope that helps. Parts are scarce forget about a hour indicator finding the color disc will be much easer unless you buy one only good for parts if you can find one and salvage it's parts for the hour indicator parts and dial but then you will have more in it than it's worth. On my Waltham chronometer the main spring broke I live in Montana not many repair shops here the watchmaker in Bozeman had only one main spring left was lucky to get it back to working condition.
     

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