New Member here but not new to watches needs some help

[jringo8769]

Well hello i am John
i am well known on most of the watch forums as Jringo8769 and i am new here
i am looking for some help and this place looks like a great place to be and get help
i am going to try and find a old late 1800's to early 1900's pocket watch
and i am looking for some info i can not seem to find anywhere
i know on the SCWF and Wrist Sushi forums we have member who have seen or are familiar with watches
so i am hoping there are some of you here like this
i thank you in advance for this help too
here is what i am trying to do
i am looking for a larger size pocket watch
i for some reason like the old NY standard Pocket Watch brand
i know they are not as popular as some but they have some features i like
and the average working man would have carried back around the turn of the century
what i am looking for is this
where do i find any info about stuff like watch dial sizes?
i see movts are serialized to certain years
but i do not see if they are by size
it is very confusing in comparison to what i am normally working on
i am looking for a silver or nickel case which has these engraved sides
screw on front bezel and screw on caseback over swing out style and needs to be open face too
i love the blue hands and a dial like this
here is a little one i got just to see what they are all about
and here is what i am looking for
any help will so be appreciated
stay safe out there
God Bless,John

 

[Rick Hufnagel]

Hey John, welcome!

The watch you show looks like a 12s to me, maybe 16, but it's hard to tell exactly with the pictures.

This thread has many pictures and a lot of information, check it out!

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Good luck on your hunt, ask more questions, and please let us see what you end up with!

Have a good one!

 

[Rick Hufnagel]

love the blue hands

It's hard to resist a brilliant blue set of hands!

You like the metal dials shown, but for me on nothing beats a perfect white enamel dial and beautiful blue hands. Especially on a nice bright day, it just lights up!

If you expand from NYS, check out a few Elgins. They have many varieties of dials like the one you show, some great blued hands, and they had quality ranged from the everyman's watch to high grade. You'll probably be able to repair and maintain it easier as well.

 

[Paul Sullivan]

Jringo,

Like Rick says it looks like a 12s and to me from the 20's-30's. What would really help is to remove the rear cover to see the movement, manufacturer and serial number.

 

[jringo8769]

well the first three pics are mine
the last three are ones i like the looks of
well mine is a NY Standard Watch Co. 7 jewel movt
serial number is 1011221
here is pics of the inside
i will take some clearer pics in the am
still dark here
i think it is maybe a 12 but i am not sure where to measure
and have not been able to remove the bezel
i have been told there are some ways of doing it
i like mine but want to remove the gold center case and crown and stem assy
make it all silver if possible
thank you all for all the help
appreciate it more than you know
God Bless,John
stay safe out there

 

[jringo8769]

Hey John, welcome!

The watch you show looks like a 12s to me, maybe 16, but it's hard to tell exactly with the pictures.

This thread has many pictures and a lot of information, check it out!

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Good luck on your hunt, ask more questions, and please let us see what you end up with!

Have a good one!

thank u so much for this....
love it

 

[musicguy]

Hi John and welcome to the NAWCC Forum.

There is an initial learning curve when it comes to pocket watches
just understanding their size, how different ones set, and different case styles etc.
There are many different watch companies as well. I just typed in pocket watch into
eBay search and it came up with one hundred sixteen thousand hit's for sale today. With
so many watches for sale there are also fantastic deals on them everyday.

Good luck with you search.



Rob

 

[Rick Hufnagel]

Since your watch is a K model, your serial number tells us it's a 12 size.

 

[glenhead]

Hey, John, welcome.

Here you go. The pocketwatchdatabase is a phenomenal resource:

New York Standard Watch Co. Pocket Watch: Serial Number 1011221 (Grade 173)

It's interesting that someone put the silver-tone bezel and back cover on a gold-plated body. 12s cases are pretty easy to find. Most times the case and movement weren't matched. There were a few movements that had specific cases, but not many. Find a 12s watch that's listed on eBay as a "parts" watch that's in a case you like and move the movement over. If New York Standard watches are an odd thickness or something it might be a crap shoot - perhaps that explains the mixed metals - and you might have an issue with the case's stem meshing with the winding pinion that stays in the watch. If it fits but the winding mechanism has issues that's a fairly easy fix.

It looks like the back cover screws on? If so, then the bezel likely screws on, too. It's going to be a matter of getting the right grip and convincing the danged thing to let go. Sometimes a bit of heat on the bezel (like from a hair dryer) will do the trick. Scan the edge of the bezel and look for either an obvious protrusion or a notch, indicating a pry point. If either of those are there then it's a pop-off, and it should pop off with a pocket knife blade or something like that.

Enjoy the journey. Be aware that this can become a bit of an addiction...

Glen

 

[luvsthetick]

Hi John,

I would like to add my welcome to the others.

BEWARE..........watch collecting is very addictive no matter where you start.

Buy what you like and enjoy as it only has to satisfy you.

Good Luck!!

 

[jringo8769]

well thank each and every one of u
been not feeling very well so sorry for the slow response
i am on SCWF and Wrist Sushi and WUS and other forums
it is so addictive for sure as you see versions that u had not know about it
and they are so appealing too
it is odd to me that this has a gold center case and the nickel covers for sure
but i have seen at least a few like this listed and not sure why they are this way
that link for the 15 jewel one like mine was very nice
too bad i missed it as it checks all the boxes for what i like
truly appreciate all the help
i am off to look for a 12s case thank you all for that too
the caseback comes off well
the crystal size is being a little more stubborn and will try some heat on it
with wrist watches i feel very comfortable
with these i am just a bit out of my element and hope to acclimate myself soon
thank you so much for the warm welcome
stay safe out there
God Bless you all
John
hopefully i will find a silver case and i can update on this one too
have a great weekend too

 

[jringo8769]

well hello my friends i hope u are all well
i have been trying to find a nice all silver or nickel case and found one that would have been perfect
but sold for much more than i expected but i was able to buy this dial and movt which i think came from it
i can not seem to find any info on it too
and i see like wrist watches these are so very diverse in all the ones out there
i see why everyone wants some of these
this dial i have not seen before and looks quite nice
i am hoping it is genuine too
here is what i was able to find out about the movt too

New York Standard Watch Co. Pocket Watch: Serial Number 1021224 (Grade 173)

Info, specs, and value American antique pocket watches, with serial number lookups for manufacturers such as Elgin, Illinois, Waltham, and Hamilton

pocketwatchdatabase.com

see what u all think
seller pics
stay safe out there my friends
God Bless,John