Marine: New Member and 2 Elgin Chronometers

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  1. Bruce Carty

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    Hi a new member from Michigan here,

    I have just purchased 2 Elgin chronometers -- reportedly from 1919 and 1920
    I am impressed with their construction but know absolutely nothing about them and would appreciate any directing to resources to help me.

    The both have their outer and inner boxes with gimbals

    I think my first job is to find a good jeweler or clock repair store to look at them. If you have any suggestions in the Detroit area or Chicago area I would love to hear about them

    As I figure out the formums and listings I will try to put up pictures soon

    Thanks

    Bruce
     
  2. musicguy

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    Welcome to the NAWCC forum!

    Can you post some photographs of them?

    Rob
     
  3. Bruce Carty

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    I have attempted to show about 4 pics of each one

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  4. Tom McIntyre

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    Those are nice examples. You may want to flip over the tubs and take pictures of any marking on the outside of them. They often have either Navy or Bu. Ships marking.

    These smaller Elgin lever chronometers are often referred to as deck watches or torpedo boat watches.

    Elgin also made a full size marine chronometer the Grade 600 as its entry into the competition for the USN contract in WW2.

    OuterOpen.jpg Face.jpg dial.jpg movement.jpg AngleView2.jpg
     
  5. Bruce Carty

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    Ok --- so my 1920 chronometer looks like it is really a 1911. The number on the box did NOT match the number on the inside of the watch (16373352)
    Also when I look at both of the insides -- the 1919 (22888088) says "Father Time" but there is no printing on the 1911. Can anyone provide some more information as to why that is?
    Pictures attached Thanks!

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  6. Tom McIntyre

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    These pieces were serviced in lots at naval depots. Any that actually saw military service are unlikely to be in their original boxes.

    I am not sure about the Father Time vs. unmarked, but I suspect that the later ones were modified from Father Time production to be free sprung for use in the timepieces. The really neat thing about the early one is the 3 position engraving. That would not be found on an adapted Father Time, which would have been adjusted to 5 positions even though two of the positions could not be used.
     
  7. Paul Regan

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    Interesting that one of them looks like it is set to Sidereal time.
     

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