The dial has had a tough life and it's all in need of some tlc but nice. Walker & Finnemore are listed as dialmakers c 1808-11, larger dials were common by this time. The Finnemore clan were dialmakers over quite a bit after that.
Sadly I don't see any trace of a name or city on the face. I hope to get it running this week. My research shows the same years for the dial 1808-1811. Would Walker & Finnemore have supplied a blank dial or would someone in their shop have painted it?
The production of these dials required specialist skills and I doubt your average clockmaker had the skill to paint a blank dial. The introduction of these dials created a new industry and many firms were established to supply them. It is possible the maker of the clock used a dial by another dialmaker and a falseplate from Walker & Finnemore or both the dial and the falseplate were made by the latter. If the dial has no dialmaker's mark on it then it is unlikely you will be able to confirm who made it.
Good point. I found this George III clock with very similar painted design on the hood which would fit the time period. I just picked it up yesterday so I need to spend more time looking at it. Thanks!
You're right about the drums. What I thought were the normal grooves are just marks from the cord. One interesting thing is of the 11 clocks I have and the many others I've seen in the last year I've never seen this much wear on the bottom of the opening from the weights. I know all of this wear happened before 1960 the last time this clock ran so if it's not the original case it's been with this movement for a long time. Maybe you can help answer one question I have why were so many cases switched? It seems much easier just to leave everything together as they originated. Again thank you for taking so much time to share your expertise!
Yes a beautiful clock!
On the basis of the pictures I would not immediately think the case was 'wrong' for a movement of this age although closer inspection may reveal more of course.
This style of case, in particular the built in swan neck centre/ spire, was popular in and around Manchester from around 1800. At the time the Northern 'powerhouse' cities were at the forefront of clock fashion. Even from the 1790s clock cases were getting wider... it's pretty much turned on its head from general desirability now, your forward thinking Manchester merchant of the time would have wanted the latest fashion and wider case/ large dial/ impressive pediment were all factors in that.
I had a clock of similar age (c1810), definitely with original case (slightly wider if anything) and identical shape and detailing to trunk door, you would think a strong possibility that it was by the same case maker. Sadly that one had no maker's name either.
Your case would have had feet originally I think, that would help the proportions slightly but obviously add a little to the height. I always want to re-instate the feet on clocks of this type but have learned that it can be a pointless exercise if they don't fit under modern ceilings...
From the pictures the dial looks in reasonable shape and would restore well. These painted dials invariably look superb after a sensitive cleaning and re-furb.
as to switching cases, well longcase were extremely unpopular at one point on the 20th century. Dealers would take out painted dials and p[ut brass dials in hoping to get more for it in a nice case.Cases would be broken up for firewood, clocks sent to scrap.
Though prices are rock bottom now they have been worse.