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New finds in 2021

Jerry Treiman

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So, how did 2021 treat your collecting itch? My pocket watches purchased this past year have been much more eclectic (and fewer) than usual for me - Waltham, Illinois, Howard and two English fusees; sizes 6/0, 8, 10, 14 and 20. I wish I had a few more to show, but I was outbid this year on several other interesting pieces. (Maybe one of you outbid me and will show it here :)

The attached image shows my six additions (not counting a few movements and cases).
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  • Waltham 6/0 Ruby movement (15j) in heavily carved 14K AWCCo. case
  • Frodsham (John?), Gracechurch St. 20-size chronometer with Earnshaw spring detent escapement (likely by Pennington) and T-balance; "recent" silver case
  • E.Howard Watch Co. (Keystone) 10-size 21-jewel movement; gold-filled case
  • Waltham 10-size 19j Riverside-A in a plain 14K green gold case by H.W. Matalene
  • Illinois 14-size 15 jewel grade 123 for export; Swiss silver case.
  • Brockbank & Atkins, London, lever fusee, 8-size, in sterling case hallmarked 1864
 

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Like Jerry, 2021 was, for me, a modest year of acquisitions, but it wasn't for lack of trying. I made what I considered to be respectable bids on dozens of high-end watches, but others bid more in almost every case. I didn't win the bidding on anything very exciting, just the following.

18k UTI ladies hunter, circa 1910s, 30.64mm cased

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18k Societe generale de monteurs de boites d'or ladies Hunter, circa 1890s, 21mm cased

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18k Touchon, circa 1910-1915, a 21st birthday present in 1915 from Buffalo's Linseed Oil "King", Spencer Kellogg, to his son Donald

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14k Waltham Riverside A, circa 1910, in Waltham-signed case


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14k A. Lavalette, circa 1860s, in Baldwin convertible "cabriolet" case

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14k Elgin Grade 156, circa 1896, in Keystone hunter case

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Best wishes to all for a wonderful 2022.
 

Rick Hufnagel

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Thanks again, Jerry, for another nice thread to sum up the year.

I found some pretty neat things this year. Here are a few.

These are early Elgin, Hampden and NYWCo private labels

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This fantastic NYWCo Homer Foot with an Abbott's Stemwind conversion and NYWCo removed from the dial because it was sold years after it was started.
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Also found a few nice movements for the Hampden Stemwind project. Took a dive into early 20th century french watchmaking... It's been a fun year for horology. Very educational.

Happy new year everyone!
 

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Managed to accumulate a diverse assortment of clocks which reflect my different interests and lack of collecting focus....LOL

1. Burr yew longcase which is being restored.
2. Renaissance Turmchenuhr circa 1560's/70's
3. Miniature lantern by Southam circa 1700
4. Late 17thC basket top bracket clock by Thomas Power of Wellingborow
5. Renaissance Turmchenuhr circa 1570's
6. Chronometer by Widenham recorded in 1831 Greenwich trials





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Not a bad year from a horological perspective.

Got my you know what kicked on some nice stuff, horological and otherwise, that came up for auction. The strength of the prices for the horological "good stuff" was somewhat heartening, however, even if it meant that I was repeatedly the underbidder.

I will also add some of the prices for clocks that came up in some of the general antiques auctions absolutely mystified me given how, well, screwed up they were. For example, this summer, a MA shelf clock with absolutely and obviously the wrong works, repainted glass, etc., sold for big $$. Came from an old ME estate. As with many collections put together in the early to mid-20th century, some good stuff along with much monkey business, but all selling for a lot.

The majority of my best finds have been non-horological. I've shared some of them previously.

Not sure anything I got in the past year really compares to some of the wonderful things that have been posted here but here goes a few of them.

Sorry, no watches.

Picked up some rather nice "stuff" for resale, including a very clean # 70, a few rather nice Chelseas. Nothing I really find exhilarating. Here's one of the Chelseas:

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Here's the relevant Forums posting:

20th c - American - A couple of Chelseas | NAWCC Forums

8" "special" dial. Though as per the Chelsea book found only in their 1911 catalog, the serial # on the movement of this clock dates to 1905-1909. For now in the room I use as my home office. Lingering about is not an unusual fate for things ear marked for antique shows but kinda nice. Looks and sounds great when it strikes.

Here's a Crane's patent clock I picked up this year:

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See this thread for an in depth discussion:

Crane Model B | NAWCC Forums

This is a rather rare single ball 30 day clock. According to Shelley, but just a few of these 30 day early single ball clocks were ever made. Still looking for a good cut and frosted tablet.

I like American fusee clocks. Here's one of the fusee clocks that came my way, a Jerome oversized 8 day fusee steeple:

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I discussed this on the American Fusee thread. It completes my "set" of Jerome oversized steeples as shown in the 2nd picture.

There was a Benjamin Morrill mirror:

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This clock never had a crest. I discuss it here:

American - 1801 - 1900 - Benjamin Morrill NH Mirror Clock | NAWCC Forums

Here's an organ grinder blinker. I love Victorian painted cast iron:

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This clock is discussed here:

American - Blinkah | NAWCC Forums

Gotta include a wooden works, this by Lumen Watson:

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See:

19th c - American - Luman Watson | NAWCC Forums

As mentioned, I have made some wonderful non-horological finds. Forgive me for sharing just one recent one. Unfortunately, I only have an absolutely atrocious cell phone picture with shadows and reflections of a watercolor on paper by the English itinerant artist, John Church Dempsey:

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In it's original matte and bird's eye frame. When found in a big junky group shop, in a derelict state. Cleaned up wonderfully, though, unfortunately, tough to tell from the lousy picture.

Dempsey is an absolutely fascinating fellow. Self-taught, he traveled about the UK and Ireland from the 1820's to the 1870's rendering silhouettes (I owned a rare and wonderful miniature one by his hand), portrait miniatures and portraits. Meant represent different price points. In his later years, even tried his hand at photography.

What makes him exceptional, however, are his recently discovered and exhibited amazing portraits of what might be called street people and local characters. Here's one example:

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Unflinching depictions but without pity or contempt. Fascinating story how these portraits were discovered in a museum store room.

See:

Unknown drawer, National Portrait Gallery

and

Dempsey's people: A folio of British street portraits 1824–1844, National Portrait Gallery

Talk about "new finds"!!

RM
 

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I bought two English lantern clocks last year. Sometime back I decided that I was going to buy only London made clocks. The one on the right is an exception. The miniature on the left is London. The London clock has its bell off as the pillar in the back is broken. I'll have to turn a new one. However, the price was right.
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Both haven't been touched in a long time so they need some cleaning up.

Frank
 

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I bought two English lantern clocks last year. Sometime back I decided that I was going to buy only London made clocks. The one on the right is an exception. The miniature on the left is London. The London clock has its bell off as the pillar in the back is broken. I'll have to turn a new one. However, the price was right.
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Both haven't been touched in a long time so they need some cleaning up.

Frank
I like the miniature one in particular. Who is the maker?
 

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I love seeing the clocks, as I rarely venture over to the clock side of the forums otherwise! :thumb:
 
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I like the miniature one in particular. Who is the maker?
Dean:

The maker is John Tucker. His name is signed with a capital J followed by a small n with a small o over the n. The dial plate is only 5-3/4" high.

Since you like miniatures, I have another one by Sam Denton of Oxford, ca. 1760. The dial plate is 7" high:
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Side view of the Denton:
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The full size lantern you see in the background is by John Mason, London, ca. 1710.

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Dean:

The maker is John Tucker. His name is signed with a capital J followed by a small n with a small o over the n. The dial plate is only 5-3/4" high.

Since you like miniatures, I have another one by Sam Denton of Oxford, ca. 1760. The dial plate is 7" high:
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Side view of the Denton:
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The full size lantern you see in the background is by John Mason, London, ca. 1710.

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Very nice.
Dean:

The maker is John Tucker. His name is signed with a capital J followed by a small n with a small o over the n. The dial plate is only 5-3/4" high.

Since you like miniatures, I have another one by Sam Denton of Oxford, ca. 1760. The dial plate is 7" high:
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Side view of the Denton:
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The full size lantern you see in the background is by John Mason, London, ca. 1710.

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Sweet little clocks. Thanks for the photos.
 

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I bought three watches

One is a Damasko DK 105. Damasko is a small house that designs and builds watches in Germany. It has a silicon balance spring and escape wheel in a knife hard stainless steel case. ITs silicon balance spring is the most isochronous I have tested.
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It is marked adjusted in five positions and within a second per day of COSC. Lots of very intersting things happening in Contemporary Horology

The second is a an early stem wind Patek Philippe

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The dial is a replacement probably installed when the case was simplified and converted to a cut hunter.

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The case is French and marked invented and built by Patek Philippe, Usually these are marked in Latin.

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I learned how loosely the term "runs" is used by the auction house. I had a motion of about 20 degree due to a bent balance spring. It setting was also barely functional but I was abl
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e to restore it, following instructions from Saunier. All in all not a great buy. Lots of changes to the case but to me it's the history of the watch. It was worn a lot since it was made in 1858.

The last and to me the most intriguing is a Matile second class pocket chronometer

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This is the original boc with spare crystal, for the back dome, mainspring and Observatory rating certificates signed by the Director and stamped. The auction house did not read French annd listed it as a "Service invoice".
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It is unusual in that it's a Swiss double sunk dial in a very heavy gold case. Its an 18 size open cface case. Some fellow members figured out that the case is American which is probably why it is not marked "Chronometer" in the cuvette.

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The case has both a cuvette and a glass cover.

Not many watches but I am enjoying them.
 

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Chris,

All great acquisitions, but that Vienna regulator is outstanding! The VR's case takes some focus away on what appears to be a great movement!

Congrats!

Regards.
 

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A taste of 2021. I buy too much every year. I did forget a few I like very much.

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