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  1. etmb61

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    I've had this on my wish list for a while, and finally found one at a reasonable price. It has number 1733R, it's complete, and is in fairly good shape.

    Eric
     

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    That thing is nice and well worth the persistence, wish I could find one too :)
     
  3. John Hubby

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    Congratulations, Eric! Very nice early example of the full 3-Patent dial, appears complete and original possibly including the velour cover of the base. Based on the serial number this one was made in Feb.-Mar. 1884.

    Questions: Is the pendulum disc solid turned brass? Also, is there a serial number scribed or written underneath the disc? Any other marks such as service dates, etc.?

    Will look forward to seeing it after you do your restoration magic.
     
  4. etmb61

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    Hi John,

    Yes the disc is solid brass, but it's a more recent replacement. It measures 75mm x 10.7mm, and is 2mm thick. It has what look like the original adjustment weights and screw, and the center post and screw. No markings. The installed suspension spring which makes it slightly fast is about 0.0025".

    Should the proper disc be about the same dimensions as pendulum 21?

    It does look like it has the original velour on the base, violet to blue-violet.

    The "match" number visible on the plates and pediment is "6". The only other added marking visible without taking it apart is "93965" scribed onto the bottom of the base.

    At some point the pediment was broken off, so the repair was to extract what could be of the broken screws and solder brass pins in the pediment to hold it on.

    I'll post some better pictures for the record a little later.

    Eric
     
  5. etmb61

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    Here it is:
     

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    A nice one indeed. Fine hands and dial figures. Will you try and replace the velour, though the colour might be a challenge. a bit of home dyeing perhaps! Will you take it to a brilliant polish or leave it as it is, particularly the base?
    David
     
  7. etmb61

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    I'm very happy with it.

    For now it will retain its "patina". There's no visible corrosion and the color is fairly uniform. If I make anything too shiny while working on it I'll polish it all up.

    I want to reverse the repair on the pediment and find/have made a proper disc for the pendulum.

    Finding the right velour color is indeed a challenge, but finding it in a non-synthetic fabric is more so. I found a child's vest in a used clothing store that is the right fabric, but violet in color (like the faded edge in the center of the base above). I'll probably use that if I can't find something closer.

    I have several clocks now with this style base and I was wondering if anyone has given thought to or tried anything to treat/preserve the wood core?

    Eric
     
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    Dyeing the fabric to the color desired is always an option, as well.
     
  9. etmb61

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    Here are some better pictures. I decided to replace that strangely small disc with one from a spare pend 21 I have on hand. At least it's the correct diameter (85mm). Looks much better too.

    Eric
     

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    Hi eric I have these very well made to spec pendulums send me a personal message if you require one.regards michael.
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