New Acquisition (Vienna Regulator...maybe Gustav Becker) - Insight Welcome

kes_nc

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Hi! I just picked up what I believe to be a Vienna regulator (I could be wrong as I a definitely a novice). The case has black accents and fenials. The movement does not have a logo but looks to be well maintained (serviced by Maryland Clock Co). It is a single weight movement. It does have odd (to me) screws or stabilizer screws on the bottom corners of the case. Any ideas on the identity of this piece or resources you can point me towards? Thanks!!

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JTD

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Yes, such clocks are often called Vienna Regulators, even though many were made in Germany.

The stabiliser screws at the bottom of the case are quite normal. They are intended to prevent the clock moving on the wall, particularly when it is being wound.

I am sure that one of the 'unmarked movement' experts, for instance Tatyana, will be along soon to give their views on the maker of your clock.

JTD
 

kes_nc

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Yes, such clocks are often called Vienna Regulators, even though many were made in Germany.

The stabiliser screws at the bottom of the case are quite normal. They are intended to prevent the clock moving on the wall, particularly when it is being wound.

I am sure that one of the 'unmarked movement' experts, for instance Tatyana, will be along soon to give their views on the maker of your clock.

JTD
thank you, JTD, for taking the time to respond and the insight!
 

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Hi! I just picked up what I believe to be a Vienna regulator (I could be wrong as I a definitely a novice). The case has black accents and fenials. The movement does not have a logo but looks to be well maintained (serviced by Maryland Clock Co). It is a single weight movement. It does have odd (to me) screws or stabilizer screws on the bottom corners of the case. Any ideas on the identity of this piece or resources you can point me towards? Thanks!!

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This is the Freiburg firm A.Willmann circa 1885.

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Tatyana
 

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thank you, JTD, for taking the time to respond and the insight!

I see Tatyana has already been along and identified you clock.

The firm A. Willmann was in business in the town of Freiburg/Schlesien, then part of Germany but now in Poland and called Swiebodzice. The company was in business from 1871 until 1899, when it was merged into the 'Vereinigte Freiburger Uhrenfabriken inkl. vorm. G. Becker'.

Hope this helps. It's a fine-looking clock.

JTD
 

kes_nc

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This is the Freiburg firm A.Willmann circa 1885.

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Tatyana
THANK YOU so much, Tatyana, for taking the time to date this piece. It is really a nice clock. It has a broken wooden pendulum rod but I hope to find a nice replacement. Otherwise it looks to be in very good, well kept shape.
 

kes_nc

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I see Tatyana has already been along and identified you clock.

The firm A. Willmann was in business in the town of Freiburg/Schlesien, then part of Germany but now in Poland and called Swiebodzice. The company was in business from 1871 until 1899, when it was merged into the 'Vereinigte Freiburger Uhrenfabriken inkl. vorm. G. Becker'.

Hope this helps. It's a fine-looking clock.

JTD
Thanks for this JTD. I was pretty convinced it was a G Becker when I took the pictures and did some cursory research. Thank you both, again!
 

Tatyana

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now I am curious. I did not spend much time looking at the front. I plan to do so when I return home :)

Most likely, there is no such mark on your movement.
The words "gesetzlich geschützt" and "A.Willmann", which I highlighted in color, refer to some kind of patent for the "time and strike" movements.

My favorite author is Zepernick about "gesetzlich geschützt" A.Willmann & Co Regulators

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Tatyana[
 

JTD

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Thanks for this JTD. I was pretty convinced it was a G Becker when I took the pictures and did some cursory research. Thank you both, again!

It isn't G. Becker, it is A. Willmann.

JTD
 

kes_nc

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It isn't G. Becker, it is A. Willmann.

JTD
yes. thanks. with you and Tatyana's assistance I realize I was incorrect in my initial assumption / posting title :). thank you again for all of the time and insight!
 

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yes. thanks. with you and Tatyana's assistance I realize I was incorrect in my initial assumption / posting title :). thank you again for all of the time and insight!

Oh, I see. I thought when you said 'I was pretty convinced it was a G. Becker' that you were still thinking it was. Apologies, my misunderstanding.

JTD
 

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THANK YOU so much, Tatyana, for taking the time to date this piece. It is really a nice clock. It has a broken wooden pendulum rod but I hope to find a nice replacement. Otherwise it looks to be in very good, well kept shape.
Timesavers or ronell should have replacement wood rods . I just replaced one a couple weeks ago.
 

kes_nc

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The first known signature was on the front side of the movement "time and strike".
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Hi Tatyana. I wanted to follow-up on this thread. I removed the movement and cleaned and oiled things. I noticed an "85" on the front of the movement which aligns with the insight you graciously provided (thank you)! One last question. My suspension spring is damaged. Does anyone know the size and place to source a replacement?
 

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JTD

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I noticed an "85" on the front of the movement which aligns with the insight you graciously provided

What 'insight' does this align with? Perhaps I have missed something, but didn't see any reference to it.

JTD
 

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What 'insight' does this align with? Perhaps I have missed something, but didn't see any reference to it.

JTD
Only thing I see is that it was dated to 1885, but I doubt the 85 on the movement is a date code.
 

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Only thing I see is that it was dated to 1885, but I doubt the 85 on the movement is a date code.

I agree, that certainly isn't a date. Wondered what the OP was referrring to , that may well be it.

JTD
 

kes_nc

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What 'insight' does this align with? Perhaps I have missed something, but didn't see any reference to it.

JTD
Sorry. I was referring to the date provided by Tatyana above (1885). I assumed the "85" stamp was related to the year. But, it looks like based on the other members weighing in that may not be the case.
 
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