Clock Need Time Train Gear Wheel

[Yrthos]

My father tinkers with cuckoo clocks, but is not internet-savvy. So I am assisting in a search for a cuckoo clock time train gear wheel. (Please forgive me if I have called it by the wrong name. I have seen it called many names. I've wanted to call it much worse since I can't find one!) The movement is stamped:

"CUCKOO CLOCK MFG. CO. INC.
NO (0) JEWELS
UNADJUSTED
MADE IN WEST GERMANY."

It also looks like a "45" down near the screw in the lower right corner.

It has a diameter of 30mm / 1.18". My father says the chain falls through and drops to the floor.

I have checked Black Forest Imports, Clockworks, Frankenmuth, Merritt's, Ronell's, Timesavers, Amazon & eBay without success.

Could anyone point me in the right direction to find this part? I would appreciate any help immensely.

Thanks!!

 

[EscapeWheel]

Welcome Yrthos! It looks like the number on your movement might be 455? One "5" is under a nut. Have you tried a search on the internet auction site? Try " CUCKOO CLOCK MFG. CO. INC. 455 ". It might be nice to get a parts clock or movement in case he needs more parts.

 

[Yrthos]

EscapeWheel,
Thanks for your reply! We have not removed the nut, so I did not even realize that there was more to the number than I could see. Any sliver of information is helpful, so thank you for that! When you say "the internet auction site," are you referring to eBay, or somewhere else? I will remove the nut and verify the number, and perhaps that will get me closer to finding the part.

Thank you so much!!

 

[Royce]

Yrthos,
Based on a little researching on this forum, you possibly have a Baduf. No 455 movement stamped Cuckoo Clock Mfg Co. Having said that, I'm not sure if that will do you any good as I couldn't find any spare parts/movements on ebay or via an internet search. Possibly you will better luck. If not, it would appear to me that this ratchet chain wheel could be disassembled and possibly the click and/or ratchet wheel could be repaired.

Royce

 

[Yrthos]

Hi Royce,

Thanks for your reply. The information you have provided will certainly help me make my searches more specific. He's not in a big hurry, so I can continue to look periodically.

He did mention that he had attempted to disassemble a wheel (I'm not sure if he meant this one) and could not figure out how to do it. He was afraid he would damage it in the attempt. Is there a method to do so without destroying it?

Thank you!

 

[Royce]

I guess my thoughts were that if one did damage it attempting to disassemble it, one wouldn't be any worse off than they are now since it doesn't work and would still be looking at trying to find a replacement. If it were mine, I would give it a shot, but that is just me.

I have not done this but it looks like to me that the plastic wheel is simply pressed on to the knurled arbor and could be removed easily enough. I'm not sure how the wheel is secured to the arbor but I'm sure it can be removed; maybe by filing off the peened edges and disconnecting from the chain ratchet assembly. I expect that the click and/or ratchet have failed and would have to be repaired or replaced which I would think you could probably get something close at Timesavers and modify if necessary.

Hopefully someone more experienced than I will come along and provide you with better information on how to disassemble.

 

[roughbarked]

It is the brass boss on the other end from the plastic wheel which needs to be removed so that the click can be accessed. However to enable this the plastic wheel needs to come off for the safety of the plastic. A pair of round nosed pliers slid between the plastic and the brass boss under it, should push it off.
The brass boss however, will be slightly more difficult to get off. Though not impossible.
A lot depends upon whether the person attempting it has either tools made for the job or can make tools for the job. Once that brass boss is off, The whole assembly comes appart so that the click and spring can be accessed.
However, most people would rather replace the complete wheel or indeed the whole movement as it is possibly less expensive than time spent on learning how to break a wheel.

 

[Yrthos]

Royce & roughbarked,
Thanks to both for your helpful info! I will pass along your comments to my father.

His preference and mine would be to replace the wheel if possible. He does not have the tools, the expertise, nor the patience to repair. I just can't find one.