Need ID on a brass clock

Lyks2Tinker

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Good afternoon all. I stopped at an antiques/flea market mall today and saw this cast brass clock case. Unfortunately it had its works stripped out long ago and reached with a cheap battery movement.
I was intrigued enough to buy it at what I thought was a fair price.
I can not find a maker name in the casting anywhere but did see some numbers engraved into the back door. Not sure if the dial is original. That has a date engraved into it as well.
I haven't a match yet on an image search . Its 10.5" high, 7.375" wide at the base and 4" deep.
Here are some pictures I took of it.
Thanks for looking. 20210408_164113.jpg 20210408_164120.jpg 20210408_164142.jpg 20210408_164312.jpg 20210408_164216.jpg 20210408_164401.jpg
 

Kevin W.

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Another clock gutted, sad.
 

Lyks2Tinker

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Yes its sad to see it but I'm interested in finding out who made it and what the movement and chime looked like so I can be on the lookout.
The screws holding the back and wood bottom on show some age.
 

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Your clock looks like the Ansonia Blenheim. Tran Duy Ly's book on Ansonia clocks shows it from the 1910 catalogue, though it could have been offered a few years either side of that year. An example may be found on this web page. Note the description mentions a round 8-day time and strike movement. Possibly it was like the movements in Ansonia's crystal regulators.
 

Lyks2Tinker

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Thanks for your reply and great info.
After reading about it I realized its not cast brass, but brass plated cast iron.
Very interesting piece. I have located a movement, face and gong for it and hope to have it come to life again before long.
 

JTD

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After reading about it I realized its not cast brass, but brass plated cast iron.
I very much doubt that. What makes you think it? It is much more likely to be brass plated over steel. I have never come across brass plated cast iron. In the photo in Steven's link you can see where the brass plating has worn down to the copper, which was the first plating coat over the steel. Then brass is plated over the copper.

JTD
 

Lyks2Tinker

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Good morning
There was a rust stain inside the case and a magnet sticks to the case quite well. I also read a thread about them.
I think it was an NAWCC thread that came up in a search on the Blenheim model.
 

JTD

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There was a rust stain inside the case and a magnet sticks to the case quite well. I also read a thread about them.
I think it was an NAWCC thread that came up in a search on the Blenheim model.
Well, you may well be right, but it will be a surprise to me if it is really CAST iron. But although I am old, life still manages to surprise me.

JTD
 

Lyks2Tinker

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Here are a couple pictures of the inner case.
After re-reading your post It may be steel. I just thought it would be cast iron as I know it was used to make clock cases. I'm still a new in clock collecting.
Thanks for your interest in my post. 20210411_143139.jpg 20210411_143149.jpg
 

JTD

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I just thought it would be cast iron as I know it was used to make clock cases
Indeed it was, but not usually for cases of this type. I think it is steel, which was first copper-plated and then brass plated.

JTD
 

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I don't think it would be steel, which is usually forged or extruded in a way that I don't think the deep ornaments on the front could be formed. If it were stamped sheet steel, which could produce these ornaments, the case would be much thinner. Cast steel seems to be more of a specialty item that wouldn't be used for ordinary clock cases. I also think I see the pattern of sand casting on the interior. Cast iron was often plated with bronze or brass; I have cast-iron fireplace surrounds that are plated in that way.
 

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