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Paulo Franzen

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Greetings everyone!
This is my first post in this forum.
I was asked to restore/repair this clock mechanism. The only identification I could find is the marking "PL 12" on the back plate. Does someone know what brand and to what epoch it belongs? I also suspect that the escape and maybe the anchor are not the right ones. I cannot even determine the type, it looks very much as a mantle clock, but depending on the escape mechanism, it could be another kind. If someone knows about it and is willing to help, I will be very grateful.

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JimmyOz

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No Idea who made it, however the verge looks original, the EW does not, however it may still work okay. A quick test, take the leader off at the crutch, let the springs down and then put pressure on the wheel below the EW and see it it will advance. That is just the start, you have a lot of work to get it going.
 
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JTD

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Welcome to the board.

The movement is likely German. PL 12 means Pendellänge (Pendulum length) 12cm.

I do not recognise the movement, so cannot say about the maker, but there are those who can, so hope they will be along soon.

JTD
 
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Steven Thornberry

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The "PL 12" marking means that the pendulum length is 12cm. That would make it a mantle clock.

JTD was just under the wire ahead of me.
 
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Paulo Franzen

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No Idea who made it, however the verge looks original, the EW does not, however it may still work okay. A quick test, take the leader off at the crutch, let the springs down and then put pressure on the wheel below the EW and see it it will advance. That is just the start, you have a lot of work to get it going.
It didn't go as it was, however, after some adjustment and improvising a pendulum it worked, but only for about 15 min. Also, one of the pivots of the EW is damaged, I didnt want to repair it until making sure it was the right EW.
 

Paulo Franzen

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Welcome to the board.

The movement is likely German. PL 12 means Pendellänge (Pendulum length) 12cm.

I do not recognise the movement, so cannot say about the maker, but there are those who can, so hope they will be along soon.

JTD
Thanks for the welcome!
My calculations, if they are right, show that for a pendulum length of 12 cm, the EW should have only 31 teeth. However, the one that is there has 40, implying that the pendulum should be much shorter.
 

Willie X

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Something is wrong there somewhere.

Time for the ole stick & tape.

Willie X
 

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The EW works with the other wheels, and a lot depends on how they are geared. It would be possible to have a 40 tooth EW and compensate somewhere else.
 
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Paulo Franzen

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The EW works with the other wheels, and a lot depends on how they are geared. It would be possible to have a 40 tooth EW and compensate somewhere else.
Sure. However, the other wheels appear to be the right ones and I took them in account for my calculations. Just the escape wheel probable is from another clock.
 

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